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The tree of life? Yes. It was not forbidden.Do you think if Eve didn't eat the fruit in the Garden of Eden, Adam would have, or one of their children? Was it bound to happen?
The tree of life? Yes. It was not forbidden.
The tree of knowledge, either when they did no.
Their children? They did not have sex until after the tree gave them sin nature. So what children?
Do you think if Eve didn't eat the fruit in the Garden of Eden, Adam would have, or one of their children? Was it bound to happen?
Not taking the Bible at face value without suppositions is like asking would the dog have caught the rabbit if it hadn't have stopped to scratch.
We must accept the written word without assigning what ifs to it. This is wisdom.
Much error has come into being by assigning, projecting things that never ever happened. It's Satan who says "what if".
The serpent asked "hath God said"... Doubt.
Sex is for reproduction. Without death why reproduction?So you think there would be no children with no sin? Do you think sex is a consequence of sin? I wonder if we would have bore children without pain...
That is an interesting thought too if they chose the tree of life rather then the tree of knowledge.
As though God designed sexual union for procreation to be a sinful thing! Good grief!They did not have sex until after the tree gave them sin nature.
As though God designed sexual union for procreation to be a sinful thing! Good grief!
But lust is a powerfully motivating drive mechanism.
You apparently did read my post very carefully on the subject.
All one has to do is look at Genesis 1:28 to see that sexuality was not only good but a necessity in order to receive God's blessings:
And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
Got also sent pagan nations to conquer and punish Israel.
The fact remains that did not have sex until after sin and physical death was brought up them by denying them access to the tree of life.
So we do not know the if sex was by foreknowledge of their sin or whatever.
Do you think none of their children would ever rebell?
You're making a lot of assumptions that neither of us can answer.
How in the world could this become a reality without sexual union:Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it?
Was it by foreknowledge or by something else?
Getting back to the speculative nature of the OP, nothing was "bound to happen". Nonetheless , in God's foreknowledge what happened was expected to happen. This did not catch God by surprise. But since He chose to make men and angels free moral agents, that's the way it worked out.
Which brings up the issues of Satan and 1/3 of the angels rebelling. And Preadamic creation.
God created the earth to the inhabited. He did not create the earth shapeless and void. God does not create chaos and does not need to multi step the creation of the earth itself.
So how can you be so positive you have it all figured out?
Do you think if Eve didn't eat the fruit in the Garden of Eden, Adam would have, or one of their children? Was it bound to happen?
I think we have the example of Jesus Christ to show that a perfect human can remain faithful to God without sinning.
You need to rethink that since Christ does not have the sin nature we do.[/QUOTE\]
So are you saying, Jehovah God created Adam and Eve with a sinful nature. Because I don't believe that. I agree that after Adam and Eve sinned they acquired a sinful nature because of their choice they made. I don't believe God created Adam or Eve with a sinful nature. Jesus came to this world in the likeness of Adam. Adam was a perfect human when God created him. Like I said I don't believe God created Adam or Eve with a sinful nature.
Why would God give them free will knowing they would abuse it?I'm saying god created Adam and Eve innocent but with freewill.
Just like Satan they chose to abandon their sinless nature.
Disobedience and exercise of freewill gave them a sinful nature that they passed on to us.
Freewill requires the ability to choose to sin or not to sin.
Why would He create them without any real choices at all?Why would God give them free will knowing they would abuse it?
Why would God give them free will knowing they would abuse it?
Why would He create them without any real choices at all?
Do you think if Eve didn't eat the fruit in the Garden of Eden, Adam would have, or one of their children? Was it bound to happen?
I'm saying god created Adam and Eve innocent but with freewill.
Just like Satan they chose to abandon their sinless nature.
Disobedience and exercise of freewill gave them a sinful nature that they passed on to us.
Freewill requires the ability to choose to sin or not to sin.
I'm saying god created Adam and Eve innocent but with freewill.
Just like Satan they chose to abandon their sinless nature.
Disobedience and exercise of freewill gave them a sinful nature that they passed on to us.
Freewill requires the ability to choose to sin or not to sin.