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Eve in the Garden

Discussion in 'Christian Debate Forum' started by Mayflower, Nov 6, 2018.

  1. Mayflower

    Mayflower Well-Known Member

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    Do you think if Eve didn't eat the fruit in the Garden of Eden, Adam would have, or one of their children? Was it bound to happen?
     
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    CoreIssue Active Member

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    The tree of life? Yes. It was not forbidden.

    The tree of knowledge, either when they did or no. Think of the war in heaven when the angels all make their decisions.

    Their children? They did not have sex until after the tree gave them sin nature. So what children?
     
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    So you think there would be no children with no sin? Do you think sex is a consequence of sin? I wonder if we would have bore children without pain...

    That is an interesting thought too if they chose the tree of life rather then the tree of knowledge.
     
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    Not taking the Bible at face value without suppositions is like asking would the dog have caught the rabbit if it hadn't have stopped to scratch.

    We must accept the written word without assigning what ifs to it. This is wisdom.

    Much error has come into being by assigning, projecting things that never ever happened. It's Satan who says "what if".

    The serpent asked "hath God said"... Doubt.
     
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    Mayflower Well-Known Member

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    This is wise advice. Thank you. I'm very good at what ifs. God definitely worked everything together for the good.
     
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    CoreIssue Active Member

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    Sex is for reproduction. Without death why reproduction?

    But God did tell them to populate the earth.

    Without sin, sex is pleasurable.

    If they reproduced without having eaten of the tree, I don't think there would have been pain.

    But as God noted, if they would have eaten of both trees they would've had eternal life in sinful flesh. So he threw them out of the Garden.

    A lot of hypotheticals here that we cannot answer.
     
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    One time when I was pregnant and my hormones were really out of wack, I had a what if in my mind of my hubby cheating on me. I got so worked up, I almost forgot it was hypothetical and wasn't real. I was fixing to throw all his stuff out the window. Lol. When Bobby got home from work in the morning, I told him what happened and we just sat there laughing for the longest time. Best to think about good stuff happening and good stuff that has happened. :D This was a timely message for the moment. Thank you!
     
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    As though God designed sexual union for procreation to be a sinful thing! Good grief!

    All one has to do is look at Genesis 1:28 to see that sexuality was not only good but a necessity in order to receive God's blessings:

    And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

    How in the world could this become a reality without sexual union:Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it?

    Getting back to the speculative nature of the OP, nothing was "bound to happen". Nonetheless , in God's foreknowledge what happened was expected to happen. This did not catch God by surprise. But since He chose to make men and angels free moral agents, that's the way it worked out.
     
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