Even some of the most obscure passages are threats to OSAS

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We cannot believe a man who walked the earth 2000 years ago is anything more then a man unless God reveals it to us. So you cannot say to Zach that he must believe. Don't you see the irony. We must believe but we can only believe when it is revealed to us that Jesus is Lord. The Holy Spirit only does this after we are after His heart...as Zach says ''hating sin / repenting''....then our minds and hearts are judged Jer 17:10, then Jesus comes in Rev 3:20, then we get a revelation of Jesus by the Holy Spirit. Nobody can believe / call Jesus Lord except by the Holy Spirit! 1 Cor 12:3 Therefore I want you to know that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, "Jesus be cursed," and no one can say, "Jesus is Lord," except by the Holy Spirit.

That's right KingJ, and I'm praying for you both that the Father draws you in. non-osas is false.

 

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IF it's A-OK for believers to continue sinning whilst OSAS is true,

Actually that is false. OSAS does not believe that. That lie comes from the antichrist spirit. Notice this passage says "because God's seed remains in them"...

1 John 3:9 NIV No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God.

We who believe in the doctrine of the perseverance of the saints in no way profess a dead faith, nor are we antinomians...yet when it comes to soteriology we do believe we are saved through the belief of the death of Jesus Christ for our sins and His resurrection. This is the entirety of the gospel for salvation.

What we believe about works is it is the natural progression and out working of being born again. These works do nothing to secure or maintain our salvation. These works are accredited to God as working in and through us.

We do not believe that sin will disqualify any born again believer for the free gift of salvation. All sin is deliberate, yet repentance is the natural working of God in us through the conviction He places on us. We believe as His children we are chastised but not condemned.

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And God's "seed" is imperishable and will be with us forever...

1 Pet 1:23 NIV For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God.

2 John 1:2 NIV because of the truth, which lives in us and will be with us forever:

 

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Where in the NT does it say the Spirit of the Lord does this after resurrection?

1 Sam 16:14 NIV Now the Spirit of the Lord had departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the Lord tormented him.

 

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If we can lose our salvation, then why did John see his name written on the wall in the New Jerusalem? Rev 21:14 NIV