Evolution vs. God ?

[pia]

Show me an example of animals adapting. I wanna see the before and after.

Hi Job.... I didn't think I had written it THAT badly. As I said, what I was taught at school as evolution, is what i call the ability to adapt, just like His Blessing in Genesis. I got one of those 'knots' in my stomach viewing your reply/question, I usually only get that when a religious person poses as a Christian, but I have been a bit unwell of late, so perhaps this time, it is a physical thing and not of the spirit. At least I hope so, I mean just think a little while, if animals didn't have the ability to adapt, how did any at all survive The flood or the ice Ages we've had?

 

[Job]

I got one of those 'knots' in my stomach viewing your reply/question, I usually only get that when a religious person poses as a Christian,

That gave me a chuckle.

So because I disagree with you, I'm not a christian.

I'll have to remember that.

m

 

[Job]

I mean just think a little while, if animals didn't have the ability to adapt, how did any at all survive The flood or the ice Ages we've had?

Animals adapted in the flood by moving to drier ground, namely the Ark. And the Ice Age caused the extinction of many different species. Animals that were not able to adapt.

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[Job]

Animals adapting is not animals evolving.

 

[mjrhealth]

Well you see when I was you I had good eyesite, now I ware glasses. I certainly never adapted I seemed to have devolved.

 

[bbyrd009]

Animals adapting is not animals evolving.

so you say, but now we have coywolves, and humans with supergenes, etc.

 

[pia]

That gave me a chuckle.

So because I disagree with you, I'm not a christian.

I'll have to remember that.

m

Oh my goodness, where ARE you coming from, that's not whatsoever what I meant. I think we need to leave it there my friend, I guess my way of having learned English, which at times gets in the way of how I mean something, and senses of humor is different also.......All the very best to you, and I do mean that......Pia

 

[Job]

so you say, but now we have coywolves,

If a white woman marries a black man and the woman gives birth to black child, is that evolution?

 

[Job]

and humans with supergenes, etc.

Where did these super-genes come from? Did they just suddenly appear?

 

[pia]

That gave me a chuckle.

So because I disagree with you, I'm not a christian.

I'll have to remember that.

m

I forgot to add, as well as when I get the wrong end of a thing, and I need Him to show me the right way. It's in the middle of my stomach, and it just feels tighter than normal at times. Besides I don't even know you! What a silly thing to think, that I am calling you a non Christian ! It was just a sentence of words, which didn't seem to sit quite right, no biggie. So not you personally whatsoever, I just couldn't figure out if you were pulling my leg or not. Are you quite a young person ? Oh well at least you got a chuckle out of it, marvelous.........Pia

 

[Job]

Are you quite a young person ?

You're 3 years older than me.

We should never use a person's age to determine someone's understanding of the scriptures.

 

[Job]

What a silly thing to think, that I am calling you a non Christian ! It was just a sentence of words,

"A sentence of words" is how we convey our thought's in these forums.

 

[Job]

It's in the middle of my stomach, and it just feels tighter than normal at times.

That's probably an anxiety/panic attack. I've had those.


And just for the record. I harbor no ill will.

 

[pia]

I "think" this is the sort of thing pia is talking about.

Have you ever heard of the Coywolf?
We have them here now in Alberta Canada. The have bigger heads and longer legs than a coyote ...
Because the wolf species was getting to low..the wolf mated with the coyote.
They have spread across Canada and down the East Coast..as far as New York. Google it, they have good videos.
The trouble is they have inherited the confidence of the coyote...one video showed the coywolf calmly walking through a back yard in New York.
They don't have the fear that regular wolves have...
There are so many of them now...they have finally be identified as a "breed" of their own!! So we now have three species..The Wolf, the Coyote, and the CoyWolf.
My friends were walking their dogs..and saw one. It was a bit of a shock because they are bigger than coyotes!

I am sure that we don't know the half of how animals are adapting to survive.
Hey, you challenge pia,but you haven't said what you yourself believe

Thank you and sorry if I didn't make it too clear. I still falter at the English language at times, but I do my best lol, at least I can still write and speak in my native tongue , which surprises my relatives over there, me too actually...Catch you soon.....Love always Pia

 

[pia]

You're 3 years older than me.

We should never use a person's age to determine someone's understanding of the scriptures.

Not the scriptures at all, when I thought you were putting me on, that's all dear.......

 

[pia]

"A sentence of words" is how we convey our thought's in these forums.

Yes but I would certainly never claim, nor would I be able to, that I KNOW you, who you are, your life, your thoughts and all the rest. Same thing with us and Jesus, as you do seem aware of, we either know ABOUT Him, through what's written and what other people have taught us, or we get to KNOW Him. As He said:" Ask, seek and knock.", Turns out He wasn't kidding. He is so much more real than I could have ever imagined, if I had ever tried to imagine it, which I had not at the time, I was blessed to be rescued by Him and then to see Him and speak with Him, even after what I had just done, in purposely exiting the world.. Anyhow, that's a whole other story.....Have a nice day

 

[Job]

I would certainly never claim, nor would I be able to, that I KNOW you, who you are, your life, your thoughts and all the rest.

There are people here who do make that claim. So when I saw your post, I just lumped you in with them.

Sorry if you were offended.

 

[pia]

There are people here who do make that claim. So when I saw your post, I just lumped you in with them.

Sorry if you were offended.

Not offended, just a little puzzled, as I said, I did think you were just funning me, as they say, which made me think about your age, I apologize. I would love to get to know more about people, they are very interesting creatures, pardon me, WE are. But it can be difficult when only written words are exchanged. Again, same as Jesus. We can know some things through the written, but to know Him in the power of His resurrection, that turned out to be something else entirely. Just astonishing. Such Love I never could have imagined.

 

[bbyrd009]

If a white woman marries a black man and the woman gives birth to black child, is that evolution?

might be a good point, but i think it will fail because whites and blacks are the same species, whereas coyotes, wolves, and dogs are all genetically distinct. but this also might be a matter of degrees, as even a brother and sister from the same parents are also "genetically distinct" to an extent--but i believe this is why we have the distinctions "family, genus, species" etc

 

[bbyrd009]

Where did these super-genes come from? Did they just suddenly appear?

the prob there imo is that "super genes" was the term coined to explain how a few people were apparently immune from the poor cholesterol metabolization that is chronic in developed society, despite engaging in the same habits; but the phrase was popular enough that it has now been borrowed for lots of other concepts.

So my guess is that they were latent, to answer your question, but i'm not sure this discredits evolution; and might even be used to explain it.