Did you read and address the original op?
I never said anything about God never heals.
Claims from others does not mean I will believe it - I will be skeptical.
Faith healings don't happen anymore; can you prove otherwise? (Either the age has passed or it has not)
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Did you read and address the original op?
I never said anything about God never heals.
Claims from others does not mean I will believe it - I will be skeptical.
You wanna know what God has healed me from?
A hateful, greedy, heart that hated human beings.
Sometimes that hate still comes out, but it is much more dampened, @Wynona.
I dont have no fully complex testimony.
Just a came in contact with Jesus and overtime it was learned that having faith and love was the most important things.
A hateful, greedy, heart that hated human beings.
Sometimes that hate still comes out, but it is much more dampened, @Wynona.
I dont have no fully complex testimony.
Just a came in contact with Jesus and overtime it was learned that having faith and love was the most important things.
Yes I think Wynona is right. Why are you doubting peoples testimonies? Do you also doubt the testimonies in the bible? It doesn't sound like you doubt the bible.
You clearly said Jesus no longer physically heals today.
How are you figuring that there is no physical healing from the Lord today? You said you were skeptical. Why not doubt your doubts?
Have you seen JEsus walk up and touch you and heal you of something?
He is there with you by the Spirit of Christ, and he heals the darkness and blindness of the soul that leads to hatred, and greed.
Who said that it is in the rules, that one can't be skeptical? If you find that for me, Ill glad retract all of this thread. You're also making assumptions of things I never did say.
He also gives believers the power to heal physical sickness in His name.
Where is that in scripture? Or is that just something you made up? You can't just say things like that Wynona.
Depends, it could help me in the direction if I find out it was Jesus talking to his disciples.
Or if he was talking to a crowd of people,
or it was an apostles promise that you could heal people by touch...
There is a difference here too your not understanding,
There was phsyical healings in the 1st century, but in the age we live in now, there is not...
And it is not because you are of little faith - its because those miracles were needed to show the power of God was among those people in that time before the desturction of Israel and the doing away of that "TIME AND AGE".
@Wynona.
Or if he was talking to a crowd of people,
or it was an apostles promise that you could heal people by touch...
There is a difference here too your not understanding,
There was phsyical healings in the 1st century, but in the age we live in now, there is not...
And it is not because you are of little faith - its because those miracles were needed to show the power of God was among those people in that time before the desturction of Israel and the doing away of that "TIME AND AGE".
@Wynona.
Jesus talked to his disciples and told him he would be with them until the end of the world or age.
What was that age? That age was the Mosaic law, age... of everything Material.
Today in a fulfilled age where Jesus Christ had done it all, everything is now done by the spiritual means.
That means true healing deals with the soul... not just the outward apperence.
But I guess me finding JEsus and having a heart full of greed and hatred having been changed doesn't mean anything ...
not good enough to be admired of God's healing the heart and mind.
What was that age? That age was the Mosaic law, age... of everything Material.
Today in a fulfilled age where Jesus Christ had done it all, everything is now done by the spiritual means.
That means true healing deals with the soul... not just the outward apperence.
But I guess me finding JEsus and having a heart full of greed and hatred having been changed doesn't mean anything ...
not good enough to be admired of God's healing the heart and mind.
John 14: 12-14
12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
1 Corinthians 12:8-10
8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
1 Corinthians 12:8-10
King James Version
8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
The age of that time had not ended. So those things were going on full swing.
But can you show me it today?
Scripture for this?
Where does the Bible say that only the disciples during the first century could physically heal?
Where does it say that that ceased?
This is a strange conversation as you have yet to prove that these things have ended. Where does it say that in the bible where it gives a date to when they will end?
There probably is not one, however why doesn't a person with cancer be healed when you touch them ? Is it because you have little faith?
It's estacthologically based, in the end of that age.
It all depends on what you believe in the aspect of everything has been completed or it has not.
REMEMEBER I AM NOT SAYING GOD DOES NOT HEAL.
I am saying that those gifts that they had which you seen JEsus do through the GOspel and the disicples back then.
What happened to them? Why dont they still go on?
have you ever raised the dead?
have you ever healed the eyes of a blind person?
have you ever touched someone and healed the cut on their arm?
Or have you ever touched someone who had a hand that couldnt move and make it move?
I am saying that those gifts that they had which you seen JEsus do through the GOspel and the disicples back then.
What happened to them? Why dont they still go on?
have you ever raised the dead?
have you ever healed the eyes of a blind person?
have you ever touched someone and healed the cut on their arm?
Or have you ever touched someone who had a hand that couldnt move and make it move?
@Wynona,
this about as close as I can get
It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears.
1 Corinthians 13: about propheices and tongues, and knowledge. (coming to an end) I think this is realitve to death of the natural body.
Not sure if I can find one about healings ending but it still begs the questions that are left unanswered in Post 39.
this about as close as I can get
It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears.
1 Corinthians 13: about propheices and tongues, and knowledge. (coming to an end) I think this is realitve to death of the natural body.
Not sure if I can find one about healings ending but it still begs the questions that are left unanswered in Post 39.
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