Faith is not enough

[Riverwalker]

faith is not enough
Mk 16:16 both are required
1 cor 13:2 all faith without charity avails NOTHING

What does Charity have to with sacraments? Charity is love.

 

[Enoch111]

Faith without the sacraments makes you a catechumen not a believer

I don't believe you will find any such thing in the Bible. This is an invention of the Catholic church.

 

[theefaith]

I don't believe you will find any such thing in the Bible. This is an invention of the Catholic church.

The church is the new covenant the heavenly Jerusalem
Holy mother church gal 4

 

[theefaith]

What does Charity have to with sacraments? Charity is love.

faith hope and charity are inseparable and necessary for salvation

 

[Gary Urban]

faith is not enough
Mk 16:16 both are required
1 cor 13:2 all faith without charity avails NOTHING

Whose faith as a labor of love is not enough Christ's ? It provided the fulness of grace needed for salvation .

 

[Riverwalker]

faith hope and charity are inseparable and necessary for salvation

I will agree with that, but none of them have anything to do with sacraments

 

[Brakelite]

thee faith eph 4:5 the Christian doctrine and dogma
Divine and catholic faith

You are dodging the question. You have stated that faith is insufficient for gaining entrance to heaven. I ask again... Faith in what???

 

[Daniel Veler]

When a person writes Christ plus. What you are saying Christ just wasn’t enough to save you. It takes an act of man to complete it. We are God’s workmanship in Christ. He puts his spirit into our heart and writes his commands on it that we may walk in. What your actually suggesting is It is Christ plus works.

 

[mailmandan]

Faith in what isn't enough???

People who believe that faith is not enough are basically saying that Christ is not enough because He is the object of our faith in receiving eternal life. Christ's finished work of redemption is sufficient and complete to save believers. No supplements needed. (Romans 3:24-28)

 

[mailmandan]

When a person writes Christ plus. What you are saying Christ just wasn’t enough to save you. What your actually suggesting is It is Christ plus works.

That's exactly what he is saying. Either we believe that Christ is an ALL-sufficient Savior or else we believe that He is an IN-sufficient Savior. Those who have placed their faith in Jesus Christ alone for salvation believe that He is an ALL-sufficient Savior. Those who believe that we are saved by faith + works (are turning to supplements) and believe that Christ is an IN-sufficient Savior.

 

[Daniel Veler]

That's exactly what he is saying. Either we believe that Christ is an ALL-sufficient Savior or else we believe that He is an IN-sufficient Savior. Those who have placed their faith in Jesus Christ alone for salvation believe that He is an ALL-sufficient Savior. Those who teach salvation by faith + works (are turning to supplements) and believe that Christ is an IN-sufficient Savior.

I agree with you. It is Christ all the way.

 

[Brakelite]

People who believe that faith is not enough are basically saying that Christ is not enough because He is the object of our faith in receiving eternal life. Christ's finished work of redemption is sufficient and complete to save believers. No supplements needed. (Romans 3:24-28)

If @theefaith 's faith was in Christ maybe he would consider it sufficient. That's why I'm asking him... What, or who, is his faith in? My own testimony and history within Catholicism tells me though that sadly his faith is not in Christ... Hence his hesitancy in answering. His declaration that faith isn't sufficient is entirely reasonable if his faith is in his church... Mary... The saints.... Sacraments... Because it is precisely as he states... Such faith is insufficient. Works of course won't help any, but such unfortunate reasoning is the Catholic way.

 

[theefaith]

Whose faith as a labor of love is not enough Christ's ? It provided the fulness of grace needed for salvation .

how does one receive this salvation?

 

[theefaith]

I will agree with that, but none of them have anything to do with sacraments

Mk 16:16

 

[theefaith]

You are dodging the question. You have stated that faith is insufficient for gaining entrance to heaven. I ask again... Faith in what???

All Christian doctrine

 

[theefaith]

If @theefaith 's faith was in Christ maybe he would consider it sufficient. That's why I'm asking him... What, or who, is his faith in? My own testimony and history within Catholicism tells me though that sadly his faith is not in Christ... Hence his hesitancy in answering. His declaration that faith isn't sufficient is entirely reasonable if his faith is in his church... Mary... The saints.... Sacraments... Because it is precisely as he states... Such faith is insufficient. Works of course won't help any, but such unfortunate reasoning is the Catholic way.

Did God establish the new covenant?
Does it have requirements?

 

[Brakelite]

All Christian doctrine

So why is faith in Christian doctrine insufficient to save you? What's missing?

 

[Riverwalker]

how does one receive this salvation?

By faith. Because there is absolutely no way you can earn it

 

[theefaith]

So why is faith in Christian doctrine insufficient to save you? What's missing?

Grace

 

[theefaith]

By faith. Because there is absolutely no way you can earn it

please explain