Grailhunter
Well-Known Member
There is so much I can say about this but I am going to keep as short as I can lol.
Most of these sensationalized police shootings and deaths are due to people thinking that it is their right to resist arrest.
People do not know the laws....they do not know if you steal a pack of gum and police try to arrest you...if you resist arrest...the pack of gum does not matter...resisting arrest is a violent crime. If you injure a police officer than that is additional time in jail or prison. If you put the officer in a position that he or she thinks they will be harmed or killed they have the right to shoot you. Whether you armed or not. If you go to prison or die for stealing a pack of gum all of that was your choice.
There is no reason for a police officer to risk life and limb in the performance of his or her duties.
In our attempt not to cause harm we cause more harm.
In the events that police officers are involved, things can turn serious in a slit second. In our attempt to use non-fatal instruments we can endanger the officers and people near by. Tasers and batons are not always effective on large or drugged up individuals. It is the wrong approach until they find something that causes instant incapacitation nearly all the time without harm. That will happen sometime in the future.
The other issue is the lack of training and or the wrong training.
Police officers need to be trained on the use of deadly force.
For example, in the case of Rayshard Brooks, the police officers had his driver's licence information and his car....they could catch him later and charge him with DWI, resisting arrest, and assault on police officers. No need to even chase him....but he did shot the taser back at them....bad move! They can charge the officer with whatever they want, it will not stick. It has already been proven that tasers can be deadly.
On the other hand the training aspect of it is important....black lives matter is a farce but all live matter is not. That is the thing that the police officer has to calculate. Is it worth killing someone for? Can you catch them later? Discharging a firearm in the city has its risks. Don't think I am being soft on criminals because what I say next is pretty hard line.
Police officers should not generally use tasers or batons. Police officers should not be allowed to wrestle with people....because their guns could be taken from them to kill them, kill others, or used later in crimes.
When someone resists arrest the police officer should step back and draw his pistol. If he has a partner he should reach into the squad car and pull out a shotgun. The shotgun is for a psychological effect...besides the obvious. The police officer is going to tell the person to halt, raise your hands and interlace his fingers behind his head. If he comes at the officer, the officer should but two round in his chest...center mass. If that does not stop him the shotgun will. That may sound pretty rough but there is no reason to expect an officer to risk life and limb. This is all on the person that resisted arrest.
But if he runs....then the officer has to make a decision....is it worth a life? Is he being arrested for a pack of gum, a DWI, or a domestic dispute....catch him later. If he has killed someone....then you shoot until he stops running. Now there can be a thousand different scenarios where they have to make a decision on whether to shoot or not....but the question that needs to be trained is, is it worth a life....can we catch him later. Is it safer for everyone to let him go.
Training is so important because you learn what to do before you are actually faced with it.
Some city officials have no use for their law enforcement officers and will not back them. Those law enforcement officers need to find another city to work for because their lives can be ruined by spinless and croaked officials. It is just a matter of time.
Most of these sensationalized police shootings and deaths are due to people thinking that it is their right to resist arrest.
People do not know the laws....they do not know if you steal a pack of gum and police try to arrest you...if you resist arrest...the pack of gum does not matter...resisting arrest is a violent crime. If you injure a police officer than that is additional time in jail or prison. If you put the officer in a position that he or she thinks they will be harmed or killed they have the right to shoot you. Whether you armed or not. If you go to prison or die for stealing a pack of gum all of that was your choice.
There is no reason for a police officer to risk life and limb in the performance of his or her duties.
In our attempt not to cause harm we cause more harm.
In the events that police officers are involved, things can turn serious in a slit second. In our attempt to use non-fatal instruments we can endanger the officers and people near by. Tasers and batons are not always effective on large or drugged up individuals. It is the wrong approach until they find something that causes instant incapacitation nearly all the time without harm. That will happen sometime in the future.
The other issue is the lack of training and or the wrong training.
Police officers need to be trained on the use of deadly force.
For example, in the case of Rayshard Brooks, the police officers had his driver's licence information and his car....they could catch him later and charge him with DWI, resisting arrest, and assault on police officers. No need to even chase him....but he did shot the taser back at them....bad move! They can charge the officer with whatever they want, it will not stick. It has already been proven that tasers can be deadly.
On the other hand the training aspect of it is important....black lives matter is a farce but all live matter is not. That is the thing that the police officer has to calculate. Is it worth killing someone for? Can you catch them later? Discharging a firearm in the city has its risks. Don't think I am being soft on criminals because what I say next is pretty hard line.
Police officers should not generally use tasers or batons. Police officers should not be allowed to wrestle with people....because their guns could be taken from them to kill them, kill others, or used later in crimes.
When someone resists arrest the police officer should step back and draw his pistol. If he has a partner he should reach into the squad car and pull out a shotgun. The shotgun is for a psychological effect...besides the obvious. The police officer is going to tell the person to halt, raise your hands and interlace his fingers behind his head. If he comes at the officer, the officer should but two round in his chest...center mass. If that does not stop him the shotgun will. That may sound pretty rough but there is no reason to expect an officer to risk life and limb. This is all on the person that resisted arrest.
But if he runs....then the officer has to make a decision....is it worth a life? Is he being arrested for a pack of gum, a DWI, or a domestic dispute....catch him later. If he has killed someone....then you shoot until he stops running. Now there can be a thousand different scenarios where they have to make a decision on whether to shoot or not....but the question that needs to be trained is, is it worth a life....can we catch him later. Is it safer for everyone to let him go.
Training is so important because you learn what to do before you are actually faced with it.
Some city officials have no use for their law enforcement officers and will not back them. Those law enforcement officers need to find another city to work for because their lives can be ruined by spinless and croaked officials. It is just a matter of time.
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