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When i was a young believer, i wanted to know why,... "this pastor says something that the next pope says, "isn't true".
So, i was sitting on a porch swing one early morning in the Springtime, quite a while ago..., NT in hand, and i had no answer for why there are 2000 denominations that all disagree. So, i asked God, "why"...and i got a response.

I just suddenly understood, by God's Spirit, what i had never thought before.

So, coming into revelation of the NT, is often a instant knowing as if ..."oh yeah, i see that.... that makes perfect sense. That math adds up perfectly.
Yet 2 mins before, you did not SEE THAT.
This is the Logos becoming Rhema.
This is God giving you the REVELATION.

And the way you SEE is like this... You compare scriptures with scriptures, not scriptures with the commentary you use instead of the Bible.
You are to compare bible VERSES with bible VERSES (study) until the dots connect as REVELATION inside your spiritual understanding.
So, to do that, you have to Study.
And when you are able to finally do a lot of Spiritual Math within that bible, you have learned how to "rightly divide" and "spiritually discern".
They Holy Spirit teaches you how to do this....over time spent with the word.

Now before i show you a key, let me show you a verse.
And this verse is one of the heretics favorite verses to use against the Grace of God to try to subvert you from Faith in Christ= to Faith in SELF.
Some of you have been subverted.
Proof? You think you can lose your salvataion.
You BELIEVE This.

Now understand.. a heretic, ( Legalist) vs a Believer who isn't a heretic..is only one difference...... The Heretic is trying to keep themselves saved by SELF effort, and the Believer who is not a heretic, is trusting in Christ Alone to keep them saved.
See, you can be totally caught up in crazy ideas and crazy end time rabbit trail theology and still not be a Heretic. And that is because heresy is only related to trying to Replace the Grace of God with "works".(self righteousness) and commandments.
See, once you are trying to save yourself or keep yourself saved , you just qualified yourself as a Legalist = heretic.

HERESY is essentially the dark fruit regarding only that one WRONG belief system that is related strictly to..= What do you believe KEEPS YOU SAVED.?
And there are only 2 choices according to Truth. 1.) Christ. 2.) YOU. The Heretic is DEVOTED to #2. = Always.
The heretic pretends to trust in Christ, and talks a good game, but they preach, self saving...always.
Take note that they will never talk about the Blood of Jesus or the Cross of Christ, except to then talk about works and water and commandments.

Now, here is a verse that is one of the heretics bread and butter verses, along with Hebrews Ch 10, and a few in James and Matthew.

The Heretic teaches.. "endure to the END, shall be SAVED".
Ok, first... to the end of what? The end of time? The end of your life? The end of days? The end of the book of the revelation? The end of the Pandemic? The END OF WHAT ?????
The heretic has no clue.
Ah...so thats a problem, as the verse does not define what that end IS... And the heretic never told you, because the Heretic has no CLUE. so, i'll tell you in a minute, but first you have to SEE that the verse does not say..>"the end of the Christian's faith". or "the end of the Christian's LIFE".....see that?

Now this part,.... "shall BE saved"...as in..."will be saved" LATER..."at the END".. that is not given in the verse. So "shall BE saved". ...= That is LATER.

Now..Listen carefully, are you born again, already?
Are you born again right now?
So, are you saved?
Do you remember the day you were SAVED.?
So are you SAVED? Of course you are. So, if you are Born Again NOW, how could you be saved "in the end" only if you endure when You are already "in Christ", NOW, if you are born again.
You are already "seated in heavenly places" right NOW.
The NT says that "as Jesus IS so are the born again in THIS EARTH".. and that is RIGHT NOW, not later on. So, if you are already all that, why would you be waiting to be "saved in the end if you endure"..>? Ahhh. So, see how that Christian Math is not working out? It does not add up. Do you see it?
And if you read 2 more verses past "endure to the end" youll find Christ talking about the "abomination of desolation", which give you the context of Christ teaching about "enduring to the end".....Its this....The GREAT TRIBULATION.
Thats not now, "in the time of the Gentile".. So, Christ is speaking prophetically, which the heretic turns into a false gospel and tries to ruin your faith in Christ.

You have to learn how to do that.... that i just did for you.
= STUDY, and God gives REVELATION, as you compare scripture with scripture.

So, You the Born Again right NOW... are not enduring to the end of anything to be saved. You are already BORN AGAIN and "in Christ"... So, dont let the Heretic chop down your Faith with that verse, as they try it often on every Christian forum, worldwide.
They also try it from thousand and thousands of Pulpits and also from many many TV ministries.

So, what is the "end"?
Well, that verse is Matt 24:13, talking about the Great Tribulation.. Not the "time of the gentiles".

So when you read or hear or watch someone teaching that you the Born Again, are to be " saved in the END IF YOU ENDURE"....Then you will recognize a heretic, who is twisting a verse that is related to the end of the Tribulation AS their Gospel of "self saving" which rejects Grace and is actually Anti-Cross.
They are twisting a verse that is not related to the "time of the gentiles" to try to ruin your faith in Christ.
That is the Devil's work. Do not be that one.
This is a heretic who is trying to subvert YOUR FAITH In Christ.
So, keep your eyes open, and when you see them twist THAT VERSE = into a false Gospel of = how you the born again are to keep yourself saved....>You have now spotted the Heretic, every time.
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Ok, here is that KEY.

Long ago, I asked God how to know when the truth is being preached and how to discern the Liars.
In other words, if everyone says they have the truth and everyone is teaching, and none of it agrees, then who is NOT LYING.????.
What is the KEY to discern the truth from a pack of deceived preachers? How to know? And i was shown this thought..
Here is your key.
When you want to know how to find out which one out of the pack is telling the truth, then you do this by discovering what is not true, so that once you see THAT, then what is TRUE, stands out, stands up, and SHINES.
And then i came to understand that its only ONE TRUTH that separates the liars from the REAL. It only one. Its this... What is the Teacher doing with the CROSS and the Blood of Jesus. ????
How are they handling that in their "gospel".
Is the Cross and Christ on the Cross SHINING when they talk about SALVATION??? Or is it HIDDEN and REPLACED by WORKS and commandment keeping and self saving = when they preach THEIR Gospel. ???
So....That is the Key of all Keys to discern who is lying to you , vs who is a REAL Child of the Light, and a true Teacher, Preacher.


And about the word of God....

God has designed the Word, the NT, to be a circular Spiritual puzzle.
You are to study it, and learn how to fit the pieces of the puzzle together to get the Big Picture as Revelation..
Saint, here is what God did.... He has put all the truth as Doctrine, in most of what Paul wrote. Not all, but nearly all.
So, the fundamentals Of Grace that you have to learn, must become Light to you.
And each little piece of revealed Light that follow have to be discovered by "study to show yourself approved" comparing "scripture with scripture".
Light learned gives more Revelation, and this builds like a foundation of Light as your discernment.
Start here : Hebrews 13:9
Then go directly to Paul's Epistles, and stay there....live there.

Here is how the bible teaches you.... God puts one verse as a revelation in Ephesians, then the next connection verse or piece of the "Puzzle of Light" will be in Titus, .. Then that next piece will be say, in 1st John... Sometimes it'll be in a Proverb, then the part that fits to that piece of Light will be discovered in Mark.

So, what im showing you is that the bible , the NT, is a puzzle of Spiritual Light, and none of the pieces are usually found all together.
You have to study to find them, then from this, you will be given the spiritual discernment to understand how they fit together as a full revelation.
A real Teacher, can help you so much to see so much quickly.
One who pretends to be, can harm you to the very end of your life by leading you to just one false belief.

Be careful.
Learn to see the liars, and learn to hear the real.
"you that are Spiritual, must be able to discern this...."
 
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"Find the Light in the Word!"

Who is the Word?

"And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us..." John 1:14

And then...

"As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world." John 9:5

"And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world..." John 17:11

"Ye are the light of the world." Matt 5:14

Where is now the Word in which the Light may be found?