Flat Earth Theory

[David in NJ]

No, I choose to rightly divide the word of truth. Which you are not doing by mixing heavenly revelations with worldly events.

By your own estimation God is one dimensional

 

[rvmb]

Just for general info...
Why did the Jews and Christians believe that the world was flat and the sun and moon and stars moved around it? Why did they believe the world was on a fixed foundation? And why did sailors worry about sailing off the end of the world?

It wasn’t just the Jews and Christians; it was a common belief of the time period. And you will see a lot of references to “ the ends of the world and ends of the earth” The phrase mean something entirely different to us because we know the planet is round but, back then it was a fear…..of falling off the ends of the world….particularly for sailors.

The scriptures detail the earth stationary and flat and on a foundation.

According to these scriptures the earth has a foundation….and it was set on pillars that could be shaken but the earth could not move and the sun and moon moved around it….and if an object was tall enough it could be seen from the four corners of the earth because the earth was flat….and it had corners….and the sun and moon can stop traveling around the flat earth…. and heaven has windows.

1st Chronicles 16:30
Tremble before him, all the earth! The world is firmly established; it cannot be moved….. (They believed that the Earth did not rotate or move….. everything… sun, moon, and stars, orbits the earth.)

Psalm 104:5
He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved.

1st Samuel 2:8
He raises the poor from the dust and lifts the needy from the ash heap; he seats them with princes and has them inherit a throne of honor. For the foundations of the earth are the LORD’s; on them he has set the world.

Daniel 4:11
The tree grew large and became strong And its height reached to the sky, And it was visible to the end of the whole earth. The earth would have to be flat for the tree to be visible from the whole earth.

Isaiah 11:12
He will raise a banner for the nations and gather the exiles of Israel; he will assemble the scattered people of Judah from the four quarters of the earth….

Revelation 7:1
After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree…..The earth has corners,

Job 28:24
For he looks to the ends of the earth and sees everything under the heavens.

Job 37:3
He unleashes his lightning beneath the whole heaven and sends it to the ends of the earth……..the earth has ends?

Jeremiah 51:16
When he utters his voice there is a tumult of waters in the heavens, and he makes the mist rise from the ends of the earth. He makes lightning for the rain, and he brings forth the wind from his storehouses.

John 17:24
Father, I desire that they also, whom you have given me, may be with me where I am, to see my glory that you have given me because you loved me before the foundation of the world.

Proverbs 30:4
Who has ascended to heaven and come down? Who has gathered the wind in his fists? Who has wrapped up the waters in a garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth?

Psalm 19:4-6
Their voice goes out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them he has set a tent for the sun, which comes out like a bridegroom leaving his chamber, and, like a strong man, runs its course with joy. Its rising is from the end of the heavens, and its circuit to the end of them, and there is nothing hidden from its heat.

Psalm 67:7
God shall bless us; let all the ends of the earth fear him!

Psalm 98:3
He has remembered his steadfast love and faithfulness to the house of Israel. All the ends of the earth have seen the salvation of our God.

Jeremiah 16:19
O Lord, my strength and my stronghold, my refuge in the day of trouble, to you shall the nations come from the ends of the earth and say: “Our fathers have inherited nothing but lies, worthless things in which there is no profit.

1st Samuel 2:10
The adversaries of the Lord shall be broken to pieces; against them he will thunder in heaven. The Lord will judge the ends of the earth; he will give strength to his king and exalt the power of his anointed.”

Psalm 19:4
Their voice goes out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them he has set a tent for the sun,

(The ends of the world…..the ends of the earth….the four corners!! This was a big concern with sailors….that they would fall off the end of the world.)

Genesis 7:11
In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on that day all the fountains of the great deep burst forth, and the windows of the heavens were opened……(windows in the filament?)

Genesis 7:2
The fountains of the deep and the windows of the heavens were closed, the rain from the heavens was restrained,

Isaiah 24:18
He who flees at the sound of the terror shall fall into the pit, and he who climbs out of the pit shall be caught in the snare. For the windows of heaven are opened, and the foundations of the earth tremble.

Proverbs 8:29
And the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, until the nation took vengeance on their enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? The sun stopped in the midst of heaven and did not hurry to set for about a whole day.

Psalms 75:3
When the earth totters, and all its inhabitants, it is I who keep steady its pillars.…(the earth set on pillars?)

Job 9:6
Who shakes the earth out of its place, and its pillars tremble;

Ecclesiastes 1:5
The sun rises, and the sun goes down, and hastens to the place where it rises……(there is a place where the sun rises?)

Habukkuk 3:11
The sun and moon stood still in their place at the light of your arrows as they sped, at the flash of your glittering spear.

Joshua 10:12-13
At that time Joshua spoke to the Lord in the day when the Lord gave the Amorites over to the sons of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, “Sun, stand still at Gibeon, and moon, in the Valley of Aijalon.”And the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, until the nation took vengeance on their enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? The sun stopped in the midst of heaven and did not hurry to set for about a whole day……

It would be that the earth stopped rotating not the sun and moon stopping.

Over the years science has proven a lot of what in the Old Testament is true. But there is the human perspective of trying to explain and understand some events.

Rev 7:1 I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth,
Your logic then teaches the earth is also a square.
-- On a FLAT SQUARE earth, why does Canada see the North Star yet Australia doesn't ?
-- Why does Cape Horn have 17 hours daylight today while Rovaniemi less than 3 ?

 

[ScottA]

Why would you believe other = concerning the high mountain!!!

"Exceeding high mountain" = On high. (Look up the words.)

 

[David in NJ]

Thanks!


But I could post links too.

Here are two good ones: (the second one is rather entertaining)...

Did Moses write about his death?


There's no sin in Genesis?

I often refer to Genesis 1.
God DID create everything.

History begins in chapter 12 re Abraham.

But I DO NOT try to determine the shape of the earth from the bible.


But I don't.


Agreed.
God created everything.


I'm confused.
WHAT is not real?
The flat earth or the globe?

I believe God created everything.
I believe the earth is a globe.

You SEEM to be agreeing but I'm not sure.

Always remember that believe satan and a lie is STANDARD and WORLDWIDE and INESCAPABLE

Always remember that "mockers " will be in overwhelming numbers and be the STANDARD = WORLDWIDE

Always remember that GOD never lies and His Word has never been proven wrong = and few there be that find it

 

[ScottA]

But alas, i am casting pearls = hopefully for some who come and gather for their Blessing..........

Some who lack understanding and will believe anything not rightly divided, perhaps.

 

[rvmb]

If you really want the answer, then you would have found it already because you were trying to figure it out. If I would explain it, you would not accept. So it doesn't really matter. God bless you

A spherical earth is why :-
- Cape Horn has 17 hours daylight today and Rovaniemi less than 3
- Canada sees the North Star yet Australia NEVER does

 

[ScottA]

Or it demonstrates and authenticates Genesis

Joshua 24:15 But if it is unpleasing in your sight to serve the LORD, then choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods your fathers served beyond the Euphrates, or the gods of the Amorites in whose land you are living. As for me and my house, we will serve the LORD!”

You are so stuck on the structure of this world, you missed that I was referring rather to the "model of comprehension" of revelations from God.

 

[David in NJ]

You are so stuck on the structure of this world, you missed that I was referring rather to the "model of comprehension" of revelations from God.

on the contrary i SEE from Above = for His Spirit is my Guide and His Word is Alive

 

[ScottA]

By your own estimation God is one dimensional

That's just wrong, or worse, a lie. I have given no such estimation.

 

[ScottA]

on the contrary i SEE from Above = for His Spirit is my Guide and His Word is Alive

That is not the fruit you have shown to bear here.

In fact, this, your above statement about you seeing "from Above" is contrary to your stated assumption that Jesus and Satan stood above on a mere physical mountain of this world. Completely contrary.

 

[Chihuahua]

@Rasputin Thanks for helping to further expose Chihuahua. They will not engage in rational discussion, and it appears they are lost in absurdity.

Exposing what exactly? The splendorous dichotomy? I already mentioned to him it was sarcasm regarding a poster using a word he did not understand and went on a long rant about words being meaningless and no one should be that authority of the meaning of words. This guy still went on and on about it. Whoosh! I found it very alabasteresque.

 

[Chihuahua]

The earth has no "orbit." It is fixed in place just like the scriptures state. The sun and moon have circuits inside the enclosed system.

Alright... supposing the Earth is a sphere which does not orbit the Sun, as you move about the sphere, in what direction would you fall and what force is pulling you?

Supposing the Earth is flat, just a flat plain not in motion. What force pulls me back to the surface when I jump?

 

[Chihuahua]

I get what you're saying, sister. But if it wasn't important, God wouldn't have spoken so extensively on it in scriptures. Evolution, the big bang, and the alien deception all depend on these lies.

Oh, alien deception. Are you a troll? You aren't being serious.

If I had to put my money, I think you are goofing around. Pretty good job, but if I were messing with people I'd have left out the alien deception part. That went too far.

 

[Chihuahua]

Sun and Moon standing still destroys your NASA satanist globe earth.

So weird that they are standing still and yet have imperfect positions. Why do we have a calendar with a leap year which skips every 400 years?

 

[Psalm-147:3]

So weird that they are standing still and yet have imperfect positions. Why do we have a calendar with a leap year which skips every 400 years?

You call God's creation imperfect, just because you do not understand certain things. The way God made everything is just a perfect calendar. And our lack of understanding doesn't take away from His perfect creation

 

[Psalm-147:3]

Oh, alien deception. Are you a troll? You aren't being serious.

If I had to put my money, I think you are goofing around. Pretty good job, but if I were messing with people I'd have left out the alien deception part. That went too far.

When it happens you might be the one falling for it. Pray about it and ask the Lord to keep you from deception

 

[Chihuahua]

When it happens you might be the one falling for it. Pray about it and ask the Lord to keep you from deception

I really do not know if you are being serious. If you are, I cannot engage or try to dispute issues that may be due to mental health.
If you are playing some kind of game, I do not want to persist in that. If you are being sincere, I am no way trying to be mean with whatever cross you have to bear, however you may understand that.

 

[GodsGrace]

Always remember that believe satan and a lie is STANDARD and WORLDWIDE and INESCAPABLE

Always remember that "mockers " will be in overwhelming numbers and be the STANDARD = WORLDWIDE

Always remember that GOD never lies and His Word has never been proven wrong = and few there be that find it

David, I love you in the Lord - truly.
But you're not explaining HOW believing in a globe is satanic.
Let me ask you this: Do you believe the earth is 6 thousand years old?

 

[Chihuahua]

David, I love you in the Lord - truly.
But you're not explaining HOW believing in a globe is satanic.
Let me ask you this: Do you believe the earth is 6 thousand years old?

The apostles didn't seem to know everything. I love all of John 21.

Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written.

 

[Psalm-147:3]

David, I love you in the Lord - truly.
But you're not explaining HOW believing in a globe is satanic.
Let me ask you this: Do you believe the earth is 6 thousand years old?

There is only one Truth. God's Truth. In the world there are lots of lies from the enemy. So if we believe that the globe is a lie from the enemy, it can be said its a satanic lie. I do believe the earth is around 6000 years old. According to the Bible and also scientifically it says that we live on a young earth. If we go by the science that does not follow an agenda. God bless you