Franklin Graham asks: "What's wrong with these people?"

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A house divided can not stand.
Our government was designed not to be divided per se but so that no one of the three branches would become too powerful. It's survived this long, I think it safe to believe it will survive this. For sure, ripping up papers isn't going to topple it.
 
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I watched in "shock" when the national news showed the clip of Trump saying "... that was bulls**t". I didn't like that.
 

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Our government was designed not to be divided per se but so that no one of the three branches would become too powerful. It's survived this long, I think it safe to believe it will survive this. For sure, ripping up papers isn't going to topple it.

It's called "separation of powers." The Framers of our Constitution created checks and balances among the three branches of government in order to prevent any one person or group from becoming too powerful. However, I believe the federal government as a whole has become way too powerful.

We definitely need an amendment to the Constitution that prohibits ripping up papers. This would be a new form of prohibition. What do you think, Giuliano? :D
 

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Franklin Graham would be better off leaving politics alone . stick with preaching the word . I FOR HAPPEN TO LIKE MOST OF tRUMP POLICIES ..his ways i do not care for he fails at time to listen to his advisors . nor do i think the man is saved// but i am not the judge. this junk has been going on for years. the democrats trying to put the screws to republicans and the republicans to the democrats . we can see why our nation is in decline politicians passing $$$$ under the table.. the swamp is full of politicians dem and rep both.. what is worse politics is in the Church
 
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There's no need to insult Franklin Graham. And in fact it would be a badge of honor to be shunned by the UK, which has totally capitulated to Muslims and Islam.

It’s not like I called him the-Trump-Ass-Kisser......which means I had to overlook quite a bit just for decorum.
 

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oh Stan.....

Not JUST that......

You say: "In many ways, Donald Trump is a socialist himself. He is a socialist who believes in massive help for large corporations and the rich,"- Bernie Sanders

So, does that mean that you are a communist?
 

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You say: "In many ways, Donald Trump is a socialist himself. He is a socialist who believes in massive help for large corporations and the rich,"- Bernie Sanders

So, does that mean that you are a communist?

You apparently disagree with Bernie does that mean you love despots?

Disliking welfare for the rich does not make me a communist
 

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You apparently disagree with Bernie does that mean you love despots?

Disliking welfare for the rich does not make me a communist

"It is HE who changes times and epochs. He removes kings and establishes kings. HE gives wisdom to wise men and knowledge and understanding to men of understanding" Daniel 2:22

According to Scripture, Donald Trump, the most powerful king in all the world, has been placed in that position by God!! Trump is God's choice for America!

God said it, and I believe HIM!
 
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"It is HE who changes times and epochs. He removes kings and establishes kings. HE gives wisdom to wise men and knowledge and understanding to men of understanding" Daniel 2:22

According to Scripture, Donald Trump, the most powerful king in all the world, has been placed in that position by God!! Trump is God's choice for America!

God said it, and I believe HIM!

And November’s coming!
 

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And November’s coming!
The Dems outdid themselves today, rejecting a Rep law that would make it illegal to murder babies.

The Dems in NY and Virginia, have instituted laws, making it legal for abortionists to murder babies who are alive due to a botched abortion.

The intense evil of Dems never fail disappoint. IMO, it is impossible to be both a Dem and a Christian. Enjoy your delusion! :-(
 

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The Dems outdid themselves today, rejecting a Rep law that would make it illegal to murder babies.

The Dems in NY and Virginia, have instituted laws, making it legal for abortionists to murder babies who are alive due to a botched abortion.

The intense evil of Dems never fail disappoint. IMO, it is impossible to be both a Dem and a Christian. Enjoy your delusion! :-(
It’s much easier to defend the unborn than to love your neighbor who has been born, isn't it Stan?
 
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In response to the disrespectful and despicable actions of Nancy Pelosi and her *Demoncrats* at the OUTSTANDING State of the Union message by Donald Trump, evangelist Franklin Graham asked "What's wrong with these people?"

I'm sure he knows the answer but if he were to state it publicly, there would be a firestorm from the Left. So what's wrong with these people is that they are demonic. They are possessed and controlled by demons, who are controlled by Satan. Therefore hatred is their primary attitude. Jesus said that Satan (the thief) is motivated to steal, kill and destroy (John 10:10). So are his minions.

They are demonic their hatred for:
(1) Donald Trump
(2) Trump's successes
(3) the gains made by ordinary Americans
(4) the present strength of America under Trump
(5) the Constitution
(6) democracy and what it means for free and fair elections
(7) the liberties and freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution
(8) free enterprise capitalism
(9) the rule of law
(10) liberty and justice for all

They hate the concept of America, even though they live in America, and take advantage of all its systems. But they still refuse to move to China or Cuba or Russia.

All they want is power, so that they can waste the hard-earned money of tax- payers while they destroy America and what it stands for.

Pelosi shredded the Constitution with her BOGUS ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT, and now she shredded an official document formally handed to her as Speaker of the House. She disgraced America in the eyes of the world, just like Schiff and his gang. She also disgraced herself and showed the true hateful heart of the Democrat party today.

The remedy for all this anarchism and hatred is for prosecutions to begin, and for all the hate-mongers to be locked up behind bars. If not there will be massive voter fraud and the next presidential election will be utterly sabotaged.

The reason this is posted in Ethics & Morality is because the Demoncrats are teaching others (especially the younger generation) that Ethics and Morality are worthless, and that the only thing that counts is power. Let's hope no Christian votes for any of them.

I'm not sure we can state conclusively that the Democrats are Demon possessed and controlled. To my mind, that waves away responsibility for their own sin.
I know this is a touchy subject, and it concerns me that there is such a divide in evangelical and Christian circles in America (and elsewhere) over political issues. And, while it is just my own opinion, i think its mostly due to the fact that too many Christians are placing spiritual onus onto political heads. And what I mean is this: I support Trump, as so far as; he's a pretty decent President. He's kept most of his campaign promises, he's done wonders for the American economy and workers and he's resoundingly pro-life. He seems to be truly looking after the Country he claims to love. However...I do not think that means we have to lump upon him the label of Christian leader and 'moral overlord'. And, I don't think, as Christians, we have to recognize that our political leaders must fill that position. We ought to look to our Pastors to fulfill the moral obligations scripture calls for in pastoral leadership. Having said that, of course we should hope for and vote for leaders that sit most in line with biblical values, and encourage them to make policies that we know God says are good and right for mankind. We ought to pray for them, that they may have wisdom. But....I think so much contention is arriving within the Church today by insisting that a man, who is clearly as morally flawed as the next man, is 'anointed by God'. Can God be using him? Sure. Does this make him Godly? Not necessarily. Do I still think he's a good President and 100% better choice than anything the Democrats have to offer? Oh my goodness yes.
And, that brings me to the flip side. Just as we must, I feel, be careful in labeling Trump 'Gods anointed', I don't know that we can label his opponents Demon controlled or possessed. Man, by himself, is capable of all sorts of evil. The lies, manipulation and policies we see the Democratic 'leaders' support and rally behind are, without a doubt, evil, and i have no doubt that Satan approves of them with glee. But its entirely possible they're just 'bad people' rather than being sock puppets to Satan's minions.
 
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I'm not sure we can state conclusively that the Democrats are Demon possessed and controlled.
It is not a question of stating anything *conclusively* but simply looking at the facts and drawing reasonable conclusions.

1. The Bible is crystal clear that Satan, evil angels and demons work behind the scenes in human affairs. Their vicious and hateful activity has been manifested through the Democrats, just as evil spirits plotted the destruction of Christ. [In The Acts of Pilate, Pontius Pilate actually stated that he could feel evil spirits inciting the Jewish mob to call for the crucifixion of Christ].

2. Witches worldwide have cast spells on President Trump several times, thus summoning evil spirits to their evil attacks on Trump. This no doubt delighted all the enemies of Trump. And no Christian will deny the connection between witchcraft, sorcery, and evil spirits.

3. The *thieves* -- Satan and by extension all his demons and minions -- are there to (a) STEAL, (b) KILL and (c) DESTROY. That is what Jesus plainly stated, and we should give heed to that.

4. Even before Trump was sworn in, the Democrats had a PLANNED CONSPIRACY in place to steal the election results by foul means, and the end of their conspiracy was this bogus attempt to impeach Trump. They all failed, even though billions of dollars and countless man-hours were devoted to bring down Trump. And as recently as yesterday Leftist billionaire Tom Steyer told his audience "We are going to have to TAKE DOWN Trump!" Using that term is significant. He did not say "We must defeat Trump at the ballot box".

5. Assassination attempts were made several times on both Trump and Republicans, and -- by the grace of God -- Scalise escaped with his life (but Scalia did not). Those attempts were to kill people who rejected the ideology of the Democrats. They may still try this.

6. Ever since Trump took office, the sole goal of the Democrat party has been to destroy America and shred the Constitution. Thus there has been massive resistance to all that is lawful and righteous, and the promotion of all that is evil and destructive. We could add a long list of all that has happened over three years of destruction. And now the Democrats have a Communist in the lead, and the stated goal of Communism is the destruction of America.
 
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I watched in "shock" when the national news showed the clip of Trump saying "... that was bulls**t". I didn't like that.
And did you strongly object when everything that could be faked was faked in order to bring down Trump?

Fakery is BS.
Starting with the bogus FISA warrants, the bogus Steele dossier, the bogus Mueller Witch Hunt, the bogus characterization of Trump's phone call, the bogus impeachment inquiry, the bogus articles of impeachment, it was all FAKERY, and it was allowed to go on, and on, and on. And that is only because the real miscreants were not locked up. And you are objecting to the use of BS???
 
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It is not a question of stating anything *conclusively* but simply looking at the facts and drawing reasonable conclusions.

Forgive me, but, the manner of your OP seemed to state rather *conclusively* your belief that the Democrats were Demonically possessed and controlled.

So what's wrong with these people is that they are demonic. They are possessed and controlled by demons, who are controlled by Satan.

And while I ABSOLUTELY agree that almost every endeavor of these people are both wicked and evil...I don't think I even need to go on and list them, you clearly are aware of them, I do think that there is a difference between people being wicked in their own hearts and minds, and being "controlled and possessed by Demons". And even following a logical path that leads us to conclude that their choices and policies are wrong in the sight of God, still does not "conclusively" tell us if they are under direct control. Indeed, we cannot just go around assuming that every person doing evil is both possessed and controlled by Demons.
Do you not think that people are both capable, and willing of perpetrating such anti-God ideas and sentiment on their own? Do you not think that they must fully answer for these decisions and actions when the time comes, without being able to hide behind "the serpent made me do it"? I do.
So, I think unless they start exhibiting some rather inexplicable, supernatural behavior, I think the only safe conclusion we can make with any sort of surety is that they have been, perhaps, influenced by Demonic rebellious spirit against God.