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Fundamentalist Christianity is fear-based?

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  1. theefaith

    theefaith Well-Known Member

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    Kingdom!


    Prophecy of the new covenant church fulfilled in the apostolic union with Christ!

    Matt 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, (Israel) and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. (The new covenant church) Jn 15:1-5

    Dan 2: 44 And in the days of these kings (Roman Caesars) shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

    Isaiah 2:2
    And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.

    Micah 4:1
    But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the Lord shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it.

    Lk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

    33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

    Lk 22:29 And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me;

    Matthew 5:14
    Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.


    Christ the king!

    The king of kings!

    Christ is King of Glory!

    Kingdom established by God!
    Isa 2:2
    Dan 2: 44
    Micah 4:1

    One, holy, catholic, (universal) and apostolic! And all nations and all people shall flow into it! All must submit and obey the king of glory!

    Matthew 5:14
    Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.

    1 Peter 2:9
    But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

    Gal 4: 22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.

    23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.

    24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.

    25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.

    26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

    (Holy mother church)






    Christ is the king!

    Isa. 9:6-7 6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

    7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.

    Lk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

    33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

    Lk 2:10-11 all people!

    Matthew 6:33
    But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

    Matt 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

    19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

    Matt 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, (old covenant Israel) and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. (The new covenant church) Jn 15:1-5

    Gal 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

    Holy Mother Church!
    The new covenant!



    Jesus Christ is king!

    We must submit and obey the king of kings!

    And In the absence of the king we must submit and obey the kings ministers!

    Isa 22:21-22
    Matt 16:18
    Matt 18:18
    Matt 28:18
    Jn 20:21-23

    Lk 10:16
    He who hears you hears me...

    John 13:20
    Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.

    Biblical Example Joseph under pharaoh administers the kingdom and his brothers obeyed and submitted to him.

    Christ is king and a king must rule the hearts and minds of his subjects!

    All are subject to christ! Matt 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power (authority) is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

    1 cor 4:1 Let a man so account of us, as of the ministers of Christ, and stewards of the mysteries of God.

    The proof of true faith is humble subjection and obedience to Christ and His church!

    Christ and His church are one! Acts 9:4 eph 5:32

    Christ the king and His kingdom are one! Acts 9:4

    Isa. 9:6-7 6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

    7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.

    Jer 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.

    6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, The Lord Our Righteousness.



    Eph 3:9

    Dan 7:13-14

    Num 24:19

    Psalm 2

    Psalm 64

    Psalm 71


    Jer 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.

    6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, The Lord Our Righteousness.

    Dan 2:44

    Dan 7:13-14

    Zach 9:9

    Lk 1:32-33.

    Matt 25:31-40

    Jn 18:37

    Matt 28:18

    Apoc. 1:5

    Apoc 19:16

    Heb 1:2

    1 Cor. 15:25

    1 Pet 1:18-19

    1 Cor 6:20

    1 Cor 6:15

    Jn 14:15 15:10

    Joan 5:22

    Acts 4:12

    1 Cor 7:23

    Rom 6:13



    Kingdom

    Jn 18:36 My kingdom is not of this world.

    What does this mean?

    Of divine not human origin!
    Not natural but supernatural!
    Not temporal but eternal!

    Not of this world but in this world!
    Both physical and spiritual!
    Visible and invisible!

    We are also not if this world but we are in this world!

    You cannot seek first a kingdom that does not exist! Matt 6:33


    Only a Queen can bear a King!

    Christ is King of Glory!

    Dan 2: 44 And in the days of these kings (Roman Caesars) shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

    Isaiah 2:2
    And it shall come to pass in the last days, (acts 2:17 last days began at Pentecost) that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.

    Micah 4:1
    But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the Lord shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it.

    Lk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

    33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

    Matthew 5:14
    Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.

    Matthew 6:33
    But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

    Matt 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

    19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

    Matt 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, (Israel) and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. (The new covenant church) Jn 15:1-5

    Matthew 5:14
    Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.

    Mk 4:11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:

    Lk 22:29 And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me;
    30 That ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
    31 And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat: (plural Peter and his successors)
    32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.

    Jesus Christ is king!
    The new covenant church is the kingdom of God on earth!


    We must submit and obey the king of kings!

    And His authorized ministers that He Himself appointed!

    Matt 16:18-19 & 28:28 eph 2:20 Jn 20:21-23

    Lk 10:16
    He who hears you hears me...

    John 13:20
    Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.
     
  2. theefaith

    theefaith Well-Known Member

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    Michiah-Imla Well-Known Member

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    how do you worship in spirit and truth?

    what constitutes your worship?

    thanks


    @theefaith

    “so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets” (Acts 24:14)

    “For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.” (Philippians 3:3)
     
  4. theefaith

    theefaith Well-Known Member

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    I want to know how you worship in spirit and truth?
     
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    Michiah-Imla Well-Known Member

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    It is a spiritual matter. Something that cannot be observed temporally.

    “…the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.” (2 Corinthians 4:18)
     
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    You are speaking out of pure ignorance pontificating what I allegedly believe when I don't. Thanks for the mis-characterization of my position. You are now on ignore for a while.
     
  7. theefaith

    theefaith Well-Known Member

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    Are any of these involved:

    adoration?
    Propitious reparation?
    The sacrifice of Christ?
    Thanksgiving?
    Petition?
     
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    Michiah-Imla Well-Known Member

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    This is temporal worship in obedience to God’s commandments.

    What do you mean by this?

    This was something that got me converted by believing in it.

    Yes.

    Yes.
     
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    theefaith Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like forum purgatory?
     
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    theefaith Well-Known Member

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    The offering of the sacrifice of Christ obtains grace and mercy by propitious reparation!
     
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    Yep, that is because God did not call anyone to be a christian... Believers are called to be saints... If we stop trying to be christians and start being saints problem solved...
    2 And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.
    3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;
    4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
     
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    Saint of God Active Member

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    then it would be following your rules.
    Yes, just as there are guards in the prison, but they are not actually prisoners.

    How does God being everywhere, not make hell separate from God? God is in hell as the judge and executioner, which is separate and apart from God the deliverer.
     
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    Saint of God Active Member

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    It sure does
    Actually the bible does not say Jesus is God...It says Jesus is the son of God.

    The father is God, the son is not God

    You are correct, the son is not God
    Correct again,because God did not call anyone to be Catholics, Protestants or Christians.
     
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    There are hundreds of radio and TV frequencies broadcasting that are invisible and inaudible to our eyes and ears. Are you separated from them? Unless a child _ who is not aware of them _ is equipped with a device to receive the signals, to him, they do not exist.
    You are mot equipped to recive God _ yet_ so you do not think He exists. He has not given you a free gift of faith _yet_ so you don't have any.
    The beginning of knowledge and wisdom is the FEAR OF THE LORD.
    That means to take Him seriously.
    So in essence, Christianity is fear based. We are saved! Saved from what? Destruction. The wages if sin is death, (physical and spiritual), so Chrust saves us from death and offers eternal life. Do you enjoy life? Wouldn't want to live forever? If this life was all we had, then eat, drink and be merry, go for the gusto, get what you can because it will soon be over. But it is not all there is - you are just blind to the rest. But God can give you vision, faith and life. You just have to drop that attitude of pride, resistance, rebelliousnes and come to Him like a humble child and ask.
     
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    theefaith Well-Known Member

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    there is the matter of a covenant too!
     
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    Nah, we simply like Jesus..:)
     
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    theefaith Well-Known Member

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    But reject his kingdom!
     
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    Dropship Well-Known Member

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    Who does?
     
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    theefaith Well-Known Member

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    fundamentalists

    his kingdom is the holy church that he founded on Peter and the apostles Matt 16:18-19 18:18 Jn 20:21-23 eph 2:20 etc.


    Prophecy of the new covenant and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. (The new covenant church) Jn 15:1-5

    Dan 2: 44 And in the days of these kings (Roman Caesars) shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

    Isaiah 2:2
    And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.

    Micah 4:1
    But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the Lord shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it.

    Daniel 7:18
    But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever.

    Lk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

    33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

    Lk 22:29 And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me;

    Matthew 5:14
    Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.


    Christ the king!

    The king of kings!

    Christ is King of Glory!

    Kingdom established by God!
    Isa 2:2
    Dan 2: 44
    Micah 4:1

    One, holy, catholic, (universal) and apostolic! And all nations and all people shall flow into it! All must submit and obey the king of glory!

    Matthew 5:14
    Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.

    1 Peter 2:9
    But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

    Gal 4: 22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.

    23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.

    24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.

    25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.

    26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

    (Holy mother church)
     
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