Genesis 1:26 Revisited, the Ordinal “FIRST”

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We suggest you study the post #491, here is the link, Genesis 1:26 Revisited, the Ordinal “FIRST”

ERROR, Moses was never ever speaking of a plurality of God(s), no never. but in Genesis 1:1, and Genesis 1:26 Moses was speaking of only ONE God who is LORD, notice the all capalization, and this ONE God who is LORD", (and NOT a plurality of Gods), but the Ordinal of himself, that was to come in his own IMAGE ....... man, (God in flesh). understand, God who is the First Prophet in the bible spoke of himself to come, the Ordinal Last... :D YIKES! Genesis 1:27 is correct, "so God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them"

Gregory, how did God go from a "us", and "our", in verse 26, and in the very next verse 27 a "his", and a "he", a single person designation... well?

can you explan this? ..... we can.... :D

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Every time you deny that Jesus is the Son of God you BLASPHEME!

1 John 4:15 (NKJV)
15 Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God.
do you even know what BLASPHEME is? ......... :eek: YIKES! but we suggest you read this post provided below.... :D
JESUS, the Holy Spirit, the Only True God.

Remember, Don't argue with 101G, argue with the scriptures, God Holy Word.

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do you even know what BLASPHEME is? ......... :eek: YIKES! but we suggest you read this post provided below.... :D
JESUS, the Holy Spirit, the Only True God.

Remember, Don't argue with 101G, argue with the scriptures, God Holy Word.

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Yes, blasphemy is what you do every time you speak against Jesus the Son of God and "God the Father". And what's even worse is that nobody else here seems to care!

1 John 4:15 (NKJV)
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We suggest you study the post #491, here is the link, Genesis 1:26 Revisited, the Ordinal “FIRST”

ERROR, Moses was never ever speaking of a plurality of God(s), no never. but in Genesis 1:1, and Genesis 1:26 Moses was speaking of only ONE God who is LORD, notice the all capalization, and this ONE God who is LORD", (and NOT a plurality of Gods), but the Ordinal of himself, that was to come in his own IMAGE ....... man, (God in flesh). understand, God who is the First Prophet in the bible spoke of himself to come, the Ordinal Last... :D YIKES! Genesis 1:27 is correct, "so God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them"

Gregory, how did God go from a "us", and "our", in verse 26, and in the very next verse 27 a "his", and a "he", a single person designation... well?

can you explan this? ..... we can.... :D

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You explained, but I didn't believe you. All you did was quote scriptures that imply that God is alone.

I explained it but you didn't believe me either. I quoted scriptures that proves God is plural. So I don't know where we can go.
 

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Gods? bible book chapter and verse please....... :p YIKES!, and another :D YIKES! for your many God(s)..... lol.


if so true, then the very next verse, (verse 27), say, and God, not God(s) made man in HIS, HIS, HIS, IMAGE.......... o_O roll over and play dead.......
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Why would I roll over and play dead. I have given you evidence in scripture that a plural God says "let US,US,US" make man "in OUR, OUR, OUR image, "after OUR, OUR, OUR likeness. Then God Himself did the creation, with others obviously standing by Him to watch and learn.
IOW there is no way you can wiggle past the plurality in Genesis 1. Moses threw a monkey wrench into the scriptures when he use the plural Elohim to describe God. It has perplexed religions for millennia. Face it, you too, are perplexed, but cannot get around it either.

Your first and second ordinals are not the answer for Genesis 1. Believe me.
 

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Why would I roll over and play dead. I have given you evidence in scripture that a plural God says "let US,US,US" make man "in OUR, OUR, OUR image, "after OUR, OUR, OUR likeness. Then God Himself did the creation, with others obviously standing by Him to watch and learn.
IOW there is no way you can wiggle past the plurality in Genesis 1. Moses threw a monkey wrench into the scriptures when he use the plural Elohim to describe God. It has perplexed religions for millennia. Face it, you too, are perplexed, but cannot get around it either.

Your first and second ordinals are not the answer for Genesis 1. Believe me.
first thanks for your reply, but when are you Going to lear, the Son, the Christ w2as not at Genesis 1:1 nor at Genesis 1:26 & 27 ... hello, hello, hello, anyone home?

understand, God is not a plurality at Genesis 1:1 nor Genesis 1:26 & 27. he's a plurality at John 1:1 when he came in flesh, do you not understand? well if you don't believe 101G, you surely believe the Lord Jesus who don't lie... listen, Matthew 19:4 "And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,"

did you hear the Lord JESUS? he said, God is a "HE" who made mankind, (the male and the Female), at Genesis 1:27. and God himself say that he is a "HE" at Genesis 1:27.

so Gregory, are you calling the Lord Jesus a lier? (God forbid).
@kcnalp, you can get on this too.

now to help you fella out, 1 Peter 1:18 "Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;"
1 Peter 1:19 "But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:"
1 Peter 1:20 "Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,"

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first thanks for your reply, but when are you Going to lear, the Son, the Christ w2as not at Genesis 1:1 nor at Genesis 1:26 & 27 ... hello, hello, hello, anyone home?

understand, God is not a plurality at Genesis 1:1 nor Genesis 1:26 & 27. he's a plurality at John 1:1 when he came in flesh, do you not understand? well if you don't believe 101G, you surely believe the Lord Jesus who don't lie... listen, Matthew 19:4 "And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,"

did you hear the Lord JESUS? he said, God is a "HE" who made mankind, (the male and the Female), at Genesis 1:27. and God himself say that he is a "HE" at Genesis 1:27.

so Gregory, are you calling the Lord Jesus a lier? (God forbid).
@kcnalp, you can get on this too.

now to help you fella out, 1 Peter 1:18 "Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;"
1 Peter 1:19 "But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:"
1 Peter 1:20 "Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,"

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So who do you think created us. God or Jesus? Please answer, thanks.

Next: you cannot say God is not a plurality. Elohim is too big of a mountain to get over. US,US,US, OUR,OUR,OUR IS TOO BIG A MOUNTAIN TO JUST SET ASIDE.
 

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So who do you think created us. God or Jesus? Please answer, thanks.

Next: you cannot say God is not a plurality. Elohim is too big of a mountain to get over. US,US,US, OUR,OUR,OUR IS TOO BIG A MOUNTAIN TO JUST SET ASIDE.
JESUS, the ordinal First, that has been answered. next, you said, "you cannot say God is not a plurality" NOT AT GENESIS 1:1 NOR AT GENESIS 1:26 & 27
READ AGAIN, Genesis 1:26 Revisited, the Ordinal “FIRST”

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JESUS, the ordinal First, that has been answered. next, you said, "you cannot say God is not a plurality" NOT AT GENESIS 1:1 NOR AT GENESIS 1:26 & 27
READ AGAIN, Genesis 1:26 Revisited, the Ordinal “FIRST”

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Jesus is the Son of God Whom you reject. But you're not in Hell yet. There may be hope for you! Like JW's.
 

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Jesus is the Son of God Whom you reject. But you're not in Hell yet. There may be hope for you! Like JW's.
well is that's not a bit of sunshine... :D LOL.... but,
YOU are the one rejecting Jesus the Son of God and "God the Father". You are calling Jesus a liar!
well KC, did not the Lord Jesus, (who cannot lie), said that God at Gensis 1:26 & 27 is a he, a single person? yes or no...... :( YIKES!.

YOUR ANSWER PLEASE.


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well is that's not a bit of sunshine... :D LOL.... but,

well KC, did not the Lord Jesus, (who cannot lie), said that God at Gensis 1:26 & 27 is a he, a single person? yes or no...... :( YIKES!.

YOUR ANSWER PLEASE.


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And still you cannot confess that Jesus is the Son of God! Only God's children can!
 

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And still you cannot confess that Jesus is the Son of God! Only God's children can!
so we can take as you cannot answer..... can you?.......... :D YIKES!

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so we can take as you cannot answer..... can you?.......... :D YIKES!

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Isaiah 28:9 "Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts."
Isaiah 28:10 "For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:"
Isaiah 28:11 "For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people."
Isaiah 28:12 "To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear."
Isaiah 28:13 "But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken."

2 Timothy 3:7 "Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth."

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Genesis 1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."
Genesis 1:27 "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."

in diversified oneness, we states that Jesus, the Son of God, was not at Genesis 1:1 or Genesis 1:26 & 27 in his Manifestation, or in his preordained state as Son of God, but he, Jesus the Son of Man was at Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:26 & 27 in his Spirit state as a God the Father, the Ordinal First... "LORD".
who is the "he" that made man males and female as Jesus the Christ the Son of God confirmed at Matthews 19:4.

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JESUS, the ordinal First, that has been answered. next, you said, "you cannot say God is not a plurality" NOT AT GENESIS 1:1 NOR AT GENESIS 1:26 & 27
READ AGAIN, Genesis 1:26 Revisited, the Ordinal “FIRST”

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Why must you add, "the Ordinal First"? Why can you not just say Jesus?

How do you read Genesis 1:26 that says, Let US, US, US make man in OUR, OUR, OUR image, in OUR, OUR, OUR likeness, and not know that there were multiple people present when God made man and woman? You cannot just sidestep it, like you always do.
 

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Genesis 1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."
Genesis 1:27 "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."

in diversified oneness, we states that Jesus, the Son of God, was not at Genesis 1:1 or Genesis 1:26 & 27 in his Manifestation, or in his preordained state as Son of God, but he, Jesus the Son of Man was at Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:26 & 27 in his Spirit state as a God the Father, the Ordinal First... "LORD".
who is the "he" that made man males and female as Jesus the Christ the Son of God confirmed at Matthews 19:4.

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So Jesus, the Son of God, is not the same as Jesus, the Son of Man? Show me the difference?
 

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Why must you add, "the Ordinal First"? Why can you not just say Jesus?
for he is the ECHAD of his own-self.. that's why

So Jesus, the Son of God, is not the same as Jesus, the Son of Man? Show me the difference?
son of man is Spirit that came from Heaven, Son of God is flesh and blood that came out of Mary, and isaiah 9:6 backs this up.

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GINOLJC, to all,
@Gregory, @kcnalp, you two have been trying to understand the Father and the Son, but you cannot cone to the truth, well let us up the ante a bit so that you can see.
statement, "God was "ALONE" and "By Himself" when he, a single person created, and made all things. I know many say, who is of the three person believers , Jesus is co-equal to God, but he's not the Father. and he was at creation creating all thing through the Father... well that a false statement to make, and here's why. if the lord Jesus was at creation making everything, then why did he Jesus the Son, say this, Matthew 19:4 "And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,"
clearly the Lord Jesus was Speaking of the LORD, the Father, the Ordinal First. and if Jesus said the Father made all things, now you have a BIG PROBLEM, listen. did not John 1:3 say Jesus the son made all things? yes, but Jesus the Son said that the Father made all things..... Uh o did the Lord Jesus lie? meaning the bible lied? God forbid. well there is only ONE possibility, either Jesus is the FATHER, (Isaiah 9:6), in TIME, PLACE, and ORDER, or God lied, which it is impossible for him to do. which means that JESUS is Father and Son in TIME, PLACE, and ORDER just as the bible says. which eliminates any three person doctrine. either Jesus is the Father and the Son, (who is the holy Spirit), or the Scriptures is lying or the three person doctrine is lying. well I have my money on God, the Lord Jesus, so to speak.

when the Lord Jesus said in Matthew 19:4 "And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female," well that put an end to the three person Godhead.

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