Now you've really lost me.
I was commenting on the verse in Revelation commonly misunderstood as teaching that Jesus was crucified before the world was made.
Much love!
Hi ~
The Confusion comes when the "names" and titles" are not sorted out and properly Applied.
For example; IF "you" are A Dad, A CEO, A President of the PTA, A spouse....(etc.)
For every one of those positions, "you" may be called by a different Name and or Title, 'by' different people, Dependant upon the Capacity / Role you are Acting at a specific time, and Apply to you only.
It doesn't CHANGE "you" are the SAME "one" man.
Jesus' NAME was revealed just before His being revealed ON Earth, in the likeness AS a man.
Jesus' Title(s) were revealed ON Earth;
The Lord, The Son of God, The Son of Man, The Lamb of God, The Word of God, The Truth, etc.
All "TITLES" that "connect" to Jesus, are references TO Jesus, in particular Capicity/Roles He is or has filled, that Apply to Him only.
It was Not Jesus; It was Not the Lord, slain from the Foundation of the World.
It WAS:
The Lamb of God, The Word of God; that WAS SLAIN from the Foundation of the World.
The "SLAYING/MURDER/KILLING" ... of WHAT and HOW and BY WHOM, exactly is revealed in:
Isa 14
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11] Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.
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12] How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
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13] For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
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14] I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
True Thoughts are IN the spirit IN the Heart.
Matters NOT if those Thoughts become Spoken. God Knows what WE Truly believe IN our spirit, IN our Heart, whether or not we Verbalized our True thoughts out of our mouth.
Who - was Observing the Foundation of the World Being Laid? ~
...The Morning Stars, (One revealed Later, is
...."The Bright Morning Star".
....One Revealed, is called Lucifer, later called
......by other names/titles, the devil, satan...
....One Reveal, is called The Lamb of God,
......Later revealed called, other names/titles
Who - was Slain at the Foundation of the World?
......The Lamb of God, The Word of God
What ~ is the Word of God?
.......TRUTH
What ~ Slays, Kills, Murders THE TRUTH?
....... A "LIE".
Who ~ LIED?
.......Lucifer
When ~ At the Foundation of the World
How ~ By His Thoughts
What ~ Thoughts?
......That he could RISE UP ABOVE GOD.
What was Lucifer THEN CALLED ?
......the First Murderer, A Liar, Satan, Devil,
......Enemy, Adversary, and other things.
What THEN Happened to Lucifer?
......He was CAST OUT of his First Estate
......(Heaven)
Cast OUT to Where?
.......Cast "DOWN" to Earth.
Lucifer/(satan) Had Great Power IN Heaven, and was allow to KEEP his great Power once he was Cast Down to Earth...and has been since the Beginning of man-kIND created things....The Adversary OF man-KIND.
A MYSTERY....
Every Name and Title Role, "we learn" About the Lord Jesus the Christ....HAS ALWAYS APPLIED to Him, whether or NOT it had been REVEALED (yet) TO man-KIND.
So When man-KIND was notified of a coming Messiah to Save the World... He had Been Already Present Helping men TO OVERCOME their Adversary.... BECAUSE the Adversary was Already present ON Earth...(the Very Place, God planned and was Preparing for man-KINDS Habitat).
Jesus said, He is the Truth, the Way, the Life.
Scripture notifies us He is the Savior, the Lord, the Christ, the Power, the Spriit....etc.
From the Beginning of manKIND..... "Through"...The Word of God
Has Always Been "HOW" a man "Overcomes" his Adversary, which IS satan.
Glory to God,
Taken
