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Salvation, the Good News
Salvation involves the nature and rules of the divine. Atonement? ....You break my fence and my son has to die for me to forgive you….It is not a concept that exists in our world, culture, or society. It involves a complicated set of conditions and rules that is actually alien to us. Yeshua could not just come and introduce a new covenant like Yahweh had done in the OT. The world had accumulated a large tally of sins…a debt…as we understood in our terms. Genesis 9:5 And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.”
The justice of Yahweh, dictates that payment be made in lieu of atonement or forgiveness. So by Yahweh’s rules, forgiveness comes at a price. People like to say that salvation is the free gift of God. Ask Christ if it was free. He may offer salvation to us freely, but it came with a heavy price. So when you look at the elements and terms used in salvation you will see judicial terms and terms that imply a payment made by Christ, for us and in our place. This was a God that loved us so much He was willing to go through the passion and death sequence for us. This was a God that took off His clothes and got down on His knees and washed the Apostle’s feet. Which sums up much of the Spirit of Christianity.
To understand salvation, you have to understand the love Yeshua had/has for us, while yet we were sinners. This is the key to understanding salvation. The love Yeshua has for sinners….we were sinners….we are sinners…and we are always going to be sinners, and yet He loves us. The plan and process and progression of salvation was never made for the perfect. You also need to consider that Yeshua’s mission on earth was a plan…a plan of the Trinity ….a plan that called for the Son of God to be scourged beyond all recognition and crucified to a cross. What do you bet They would come up with a plan that would have an extremely high success rate? You have to keep this in mind when considering all aspects of salvation…from belief….to heaven.
The truth about salvation?….it is not a denominational thing….No person or Church has a patient on it or can control this. It is a Gospel thing. What I am going to address here is in regard to sin after Christ’s crucifixion and His resurrection and how that ties into the processes of Salvation.
The doctrine of salvation is both simple and complex. On one hand, most of us can quote at least part of John 3:16 or of Paul’s response to the Philippian jailor’s question about how to be saved (Acts 16:31). On the other hand, who can explain how a Holy God/Man could become Sin and die, and with Him take Sin out of the world, for those that believe in Him? (John 1:29 & 1John 3:5)
Salvation is extremely important to understand correctly, for the sake of one’s own salvation and, one would not want to preach a false belief. There is an Anathema (curse) on anyone (including angels or preachers) who teaches a different message of Salvation from what is taught in the New Testament. (This curse is referenced in Gal 1:6 thru 10.) The doctrine of Christianity, the teachings of Christ can be found in the Bible. The doctrine of Man, false teachings can not!
The Gospels teach that true Salvation is that which is provided by God Himself through the sacrificial death of His Son Jesus Christ. There is no other way that Man can be saved from eternal condemnation and enter into eternal life. (John 14:6) There is no other name that can be called upon for salvation. (Acts 4:12) Man alone can not save Himself, not through works, not through deeds, or observance of Laws. Man can only be saved through the great love and grace of Jesus. (Ephesians 2:4-10, Titus 2:11 & Titus 3:4 &5, 2Timothy 1:9, John 3:16)
Leave it to your cousin to steal your thunder. John 1:29 “The next day he saw Jesus coming to him, and said, “Behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world! This is not exaggeration.” 1st John 2:2 “and He himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world. Neither of these two scriptures are exaggerations or just a figure of speech.
When Christ died on the cross the veil in the temple tore in two, top to bottom. At that point there was nothing between us and God the Father. Before that, sin had been the distance and the barrier between us and God the Father. Christ’s sacrificial death had paid the price for all of the sins on earth. His death had put an end to the OT system of sin and tally. He not only wiped the slat clean, he broke the slat…no more OT sin. Romans 5:10 “For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.”
Christ forgave sins during His ministry, but at his resurrection He took all authority over sin and from that point, for all that believe in Him, anyone’s sin is between them and Christ, and God the Father never sees your sin. The Grace of Christ presents us before God the Father blameless and perfect. Perfected by Christ.
Now this is the part that some people do not get about baptism. When you repent and believe in Christ, the sins that you accumulated on your soul before you were saved are done away with by baptism…washed away lol…not exactly. The emersion in the water is the event of Christ’s death, you die with Christ and when you come up, you are resurrected with Christ as a new person. That person that went down in the water and his or her sins, as far as Christ is concerned, never existed. From then on your sins are between you and Christ. 1st John 1:9 “If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” This is the element of Salvation called FORGIVENESS.
The Seven elements of Salvation
FORGIVENESS
Of the seven elements of Salvation explained by the Apostle Paul, Forgiveness is the central foundation. Without forgiveness nothing happens. Although the significance of Christ forgiving us is obvious, the importance of forgiving others, sometimes is over looked. Someone does something bad to you and you hate or thing bad of them. If they repent and you forgive them, that makes them feel better. But if you can truly forgive them it relieves your pain too. Putting that in motion, that might take some practice.
So what is the purpose of Forgiveness, Propitiation, Justification, Redemption, Sanctification, Reconciliation, and Adoption. To know this, to understand this, is the apex of Christian enlightenment. Because to know this is to have an insight to God’s plan. Certainly all this was done to save us, but more than that; All these things were done so we could be reconciled to our God. (2 Cor. 5:14-21 Col. 1:22) So that once again He could accept us as His children, purified and blameless before Him. (Titus 2:11-15, 1 Cor. 1:8, Eph. 1:4)
PROPITIATION
There are many facets to the meaning of Christ’s death, but the central one….without which the others have no eternal meaning is, the act of substitution. This simply means that Christ died in the place of sinners. The use of the Greek preposition “anti”, clearly teaches this because it means “in the place of.” It is used, for instance, with this meaning in a passage that has nothing to do with the death of Christ. (Luke 11:11) But more significantly, it is used in a passage which gives our Lord’s own interpretation of the meaning of His death. (Matt. 20:28 Mark 10:45) His death, He said, “….was to be a payment in the place of many.”
However, another preposition, “huper”, is also used in the New Testament, and it has two meanings; sometimes it means “for the benefit of”’ and sometimes “in the place of.” Of course the death of Christ was both in our place and for our benefit, and there is no reason why “huper” when it is used in relation to His death does not include both ideas. (2 Corinthians 5:21 1 Peter 3:18)
REDEMPTION
The doctrine of redemption is built on three words in the New Testament. The first is a simple word which means “to buy or purchase or pay a price for something.” It is used for instance with this ordinary, everyday meaning in the parable of the treasure hid in a field which motivated the man to buy (redeem) the field (Matt. 13:44). In relation to our salvation, the word means to pay the price which our Sins demanded so that we could be redeemed.
The second word is the same basic word indicated above, pre-fixed with a preposition, which has the force of intensifying the meaning. This can be easily expressed in English because the preposition means “out of” thus making the second word mean, “to purchase out of the market.” Thus the idea in this second word is that Christ’s death not only paid the price for our Sins, but also removed us from the marketplace of Sin in order to give us full assurance that we will never be returned to the bondage and penalties of Sin. (Colossians 1:14 & 2:14)
The third word for redemption is an entirely different one. Its basic meaning is “to loose” and thus it signifies that the purchased person is also released and set free in the fullest sense. The means of this release is through the substitution Christ made. The basis is the blood of God’s own son. The intent is to purify a people.
Thus the “Doctrine of Redemption” is; Because of the shedding of the blood of Jesus Christ, believers in Him have been purchased and removed from the bondage and curse of the Law, and liberated. (Eph. 1:7, Heb. 9:12 – 15, Gal. 3:12 & 5:1.)
Salvation involves the nature and rules of the divine. Atonement? ....You break my fence and my son has to die for me to forgive you….It is not a concept that exists in our world, culture, or society. It involves a complicated set of conditions and rules that is actually alien to us. Yeshua could not just come and introduce a new covenant like Yahweh had done in the OT. The world had accumulated a large tally of sins…a debt…as we understood in our terms. Genesis 9:5 And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.”
The justice of Yahweh, dictates that payment be made in lieu of atonement or forgiveness. So by Yahweh’s rules, forgiveness comes at a price. People like to say that salvation is the free gift of God. Ask Christ if it was free. He may offer salvation to us freely, but it came with a heavy price. So when you look at the elements and terms used in salvation you will see judicial terms and terms that imply a payment made by Christ, for us and in our place. This was a God that loved us so much He was willing to go through the passion and death sequence for us. This was a God that took off His clothes and got down on His knees and washed the Apostle’s feet. Which sums up much of the Spirit of Christianity.
To understand salvation, you have to understand the love Yeshua had/has for us, while yet we were sinners. This is the key to understanding salvation. The love Yeshua has for sinners….we were sinners….we are sinners…and we are always going to be sinners, and yet He loves us. The plan and process and progression of salvation was never made for the perfect. You also need to consider that Yeshua’s mission on earth was a plan…a plan of the Trinity ….a plan that called for the Son of God to be scourged beyond all recognition and crucified to a cross. What do you bet They would come up with a plan that would have an extremely high success rate? You have to keep this in mind when considering all aspects of salvation…from belief….to heaven.
The truth about salvation?….it is not a denominational thing….No person or Church has a patient on it or can control this. It is a Gospel thing. What I am going to address here is in regard to sin after Christ’s crucifixion and His resurrection and how that ties into the processes of Salvation.
The doctrine of salvation is both simple and complex. On one hand, most of us can quote at least part of John 3:16 or of Paul’s response to the Philippian jailor’s question about how to be saved (Acts 16:31). On the other hand, who can explain how a Holy God/Man could become Sin and die, and with Him take Sin out of the world, for those that believe in Him? (John 1:29 & 1John 3:5)
Salvation is extremely important to understand correctly, for the sake of one’s own salvation and, one would not want to preach a false belief. There is an Anathema (curse) on anyone (including angels or preachers) who teaches a different message of Salvation from what is taught in the New Testament. (This curse is referenced in Gal 1:6 thru 10.) The doctrine of Christianity, the teachings of Christ can be found in the Bible. The doctrine of Man, false teachings can not!
The Gospels teach that true Salvation is that which is provided by God Himself through the sacrificial death of His Son Jesus Christ. There is no other way that Man can be saved from eternal condemnation and enter into eternal life. (John 14:6) There is no other name that can be called upon for salvation. (Acts 4:12) Man alone can not save Himself, not through works, not through deeds, or observance of Laws. Man can only be saved through the great love and grace of Jesus. (Ephesians 2:4-10, Titus 2:11 & Titus 3:4 &5, 2Timothy 1:9, John 3:16)
Leave it to your cousin to steal your thunder. John 1:29 “The next day he saw Jesus coming to him, and said, “Behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world! This is not exaggeration.” 1st John 2:2 “and He himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world. Neither of these two scriptures are exaggerations or just a figure of speech.
When Christ died on the cross the veil in the temple tore in two, top to bottom. At that point there was nothing between us and God the Father. Before that, sin had been the distance and the barrier between us and God the Father. Christ’s sacrificial death had paid the price for all of the sins on earth. His death had put an end to the OT system of sin and tally. He not only wiped the slat clean, he broke the slat…no more OT sin. Romans 5:10 “For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.”
Christ forgave sins during His ministry, but at his resurrection He took all authority over sin and from that point, for all that believe in Him, anyone’s sin is between them and Christ, and God the Father never sees your sin. The Grace of Christ presents us before God the Father blameless and perfect. Perfected by Christ.
Now this is the part that some people do not get about baptism. When you repent and believe in Christ, the sins that you accumulated on your soul before you were saved are done away with by baptism…washed away lol…not exactly. The emersion in the water is the event of Christ’s death, you die with Christ and when you come up, you are resurrected with Christ as a new person. That person that went down in the water and his or her sins, as far as Christ is concerned, never existed. From then on your sins are between you and Christ. 1st John 1:9 “If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” This is the element of Salvation called FORGIVENESS.
The Seven elements of Salvation
FORGIVENESS
Of the seven elements of Salvation explained by the Apostle Paul, Forgiveness is the central foundation. Without forgiveness nothing happens. Although the significance of Christ forgiving us is obvious, the importance of forgiving others, sometimes is over looked. Someone does something bad to you and you hate or thing bad of them. If they repent and you forgive them, that makes them feel better. But if you can truly forgive them it relieves your pain too. Putting that in motion, that might take some practice.
So what is the purpose of Forgiveness, Propitiation, Justification, Redemption, Sanctification, Reconciliation, and Adoption. To know this, to understand this, is the apex of Christian enlightenment. Because to know this is to have an insight to God’s plan. Certainly all this was done to save us, but more than that; All these things were done so we could be reconciled to our God. (2 Cor. 5:14-21 Col. 1:22) So that once again He could accept us as His children, purified and blameless before Him. (Titus 2:11-15, 1 Cor. 1:8, Eph. 1:4)
PROPITIATION
There are many facets to the meaning of Christ’s death, but the central one….without which the others have no eternal meaning is, the act of substitution. This simply means that Christ died in the place of sinners. The use of the Greek preposition “anti”, clearly teaches this because it means “in the place of.” It is used, for instance, with this meaning in a passage that has nothing to do with the death of Christ. (Luke 11:11) But more significantly, it is used in a passage which gives our Lord’s own interpretation of the meaning of His death. (Matt. 20:28 Mark 10:45) His death, He said, “….was to be a payment in the place of many.”
However, another preposition, “huper”, is also used in the New Testament, and it has two meanings; sometimes it means “for the benefit of”’ and sometimes “in the place of.” Of course the death of Christ was both in our place and for our benefit, and there is no reason why “huper” when it is used in relation to His death does not include both ideas. (2 Corinthians 5:21 1 Peter 3:18)
REDEMPTION
The doctrine of redemption is built on three words in the New Testament. The first is a simple word which means “to buy or purchase or pay a price for something.” It is used for instance with this ordinary, everyday meaning in the parable of the treasure hid in a field which motivated the man to buy (redeem) the field (Matt. 13:44). In relation to our salvation, the word means to pay the price which our Sins demanded so that we could be redeemed.
The second word is the same basic word indicated above, pre-fixed with a preposition, which has the force of intensifying the meaning. This can be easily expressed in English because the preposition means “out of” thus making the second word mean, “to purchase out of the market.” Thus the idea in this second word is that Christ’s death not only paid the price for our Sins, but also removed us from the marketplace of Sin in order to give us full assurance that we will never be returned to the bondage and penalties of Sin. (Colossians 1:14 & 2:14)
The third word for redemption is an entirely different one. Its basic meaning is “to loose” and thus it signifies that the purchased person is also released and set free in the fullest sense. The means of this release is through the substitution Christ made. The basis is the blood of God’s own son. The intent is to purify a people.
Thus the “Doctrine of Redemption” is; Because of the shedding of the blood of Jesus Christ, believers in Him have been purchased and removed from the bondage and curse of the Law, and liberated. (Eph. 1:7, Heb. 9:12 – 15, Gal. 3:12 & 5:1.)
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JUSTIFICATION OF CHRISTIANS
One of the other effects of Christ’s death is that we are acceptable before God. (Col. 2:13) We are Reconciled. (2nd Corinthians 5:19 thru 21) We are Forgiven (Romans 3:25) We are Delivered.(Col.1:13) We are accepted in the Beloved. (Eph.1:6) We are assured future Glorification (Romans 8:30) We are Justified. (Romans 3:24)
To Justify, is to declare righteous. It is a judicial term indicating that a verdict of acquittal has been announced, excluding all possibility of condemnation. Indeed, in the Scriptures, Justification is invariably set over against condemnation. (Deut. 25:1 Romans 5:16; 8:33 and 34) The claims of God’s Law against the sinner have been fully satisfied. Justification is not because of any overlooking, suspended sentence, or alteration of God’ righteous demands, but because in Christ all of His demands have been fulfilled. Christ’s perfect life of obedience to the Law and His atoning death which paid its penalty are the bases for our Justification. (Romans 5:9) Justification could never be based on our good works, for God requires perfect obedience, which is impossible for Man. (Romans 3:20, Gal.2:16-21,3:11, Titus 3:5-7)
The means of Justification is faith (Romans 3:22, 25, 28, 30). Faith is the means or channel through which God’s grace can impute the righteousness of Christ to the believing transgressor. (Romans 5:1&2.) When we believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and the Messiah, and are baptized in His name, God drops all charges of Sin against us; thus we stand acquitted. (Acts 13:38-41) Then God justly announces that acquittal, and that pronouncement is Justification.
SANCTIFICATION THROUGH CHRIST
The word sanctify means to set apart (it has the same root as the words saint and holy). For Christians, sanctification has three aspects. First the believer has been set apart by his position in the family of God. This is usually called positional sanctification. It means being set apart as a member of the family of God. It is true of every believer regardless of his or her spiritual state. Read 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 and remember the carnal condition of these believers. That this positional sanctification is based on the death of Christ is clear from Hebrews 10:10, 1Cor.1:30, 2Thess. 2:13, 1 Peter 1:2.
Of coarse there is also an experiential aspect of sanctification. Because we have been set apart we are to be increasingly set apart in our daily lives (1 Peter 1:16). In the positional sense no one is more sanctified than another, but in the experiential aspect it is quite correct to speak of one believer as being more sanctified than another. All the exhortations of the New Testament concerning spiritual growth are pertinent to this progressive and experiential factor of sanctification.
RECONCILIATION WITH GOD
This is the process by which God and His people are brought together again. The Bible teaches that they were alienated from one another because of God’s holiness and human sinfulness. Although God the Father loves the sinner, (Romans 5:8), it is impossible for Him not to judge Sin, (Hebrews 10:27). Therefore, in Biblical reconciliation, both parties are affected. Through the sacrifice of Christ, people’s Sins are atoned for and God’s wrath is appeased. Thus, a relationship of hostility and alienation is changed into one of peace and fellowship, (Ephesians 2:13-19).
The initiative in reconciliation was taken by God, while we were still sinners and enemies, Christ died for us (Romans 5:8&10, Col. 1:21). Reconciliation is God’s own plan. God Himself “…has reconciled us to Himself through Jesus Christ.” Paul regarded the Gospel as “…the word of reconciliation”, (2nd Corinthians. 5:18&19).
ADOPTED INTO THE FAMILY OF GOD
Adoption is a particularly wonderful benefit of the New Covenant. Every time you read “son” in relation to a believer in John’s writings, for instance, you should translate it “child”, for John does not write of the sonship of the believer. (Even though he acknowledges that we are “children of God, 1John 3:1) But on the other hand Paul reveals that we are adopted as sons. It is true that we are “The Children of God” by the new birth, but it is also true that we are adopted into God’s family at the same time. Romans 8:14-23, 9:4&8, 2Corinthians 6:18, Galatians 3:26, 4:5-7 Ephesians 1:5, 2:19, Philippians 2:15. In the act of adoption a child is taken by a man from a family not his own, introduced into a new family, and regarded as a true son with all the privileges and responsibilities that belong to this new relationship. The imagery in the idea of a child of God is one of birth, growth, and development into maturity; the idea in sonship is that of full fledged privileges in the new family of God. Adoption bestows a new status on the one who receives Christ. The results of adoption are deliverance from slavery of Sin and the Law, and from the flesh (Gal. 4:1 thru 5 Romans 8:14 thru 17), and it is the Holy Spirit who enables us to enjoy the privileges of our position. Forgiveness, Propitiation, Justification, Redemption, Sanctification, Reconciliation, and Adoption are the Seven Biblical elements of the Doctrine of Salvation. And as such are of extreme importance but, many religions, even most religions do not recognize the Seven elements of the doctrine of Salvation. They either ignore or modify these doctrines so that they do not contradict their own man made doctrines. And in doing so preach a false doctrine.
I do not count Glorification as an element of Salvation because it is down the road from Salvation. I don’t want you to think I forgot it. Belief vary as to when this occurs There is a beliefs that we will not be fully glorified until our position and practice are brought into perfect accord lol, and or this will occur only when we see Christ and “and shall be like Him.” (1 John 3:1 thru 3)
Now does this occur when Christ returns and or the Rapture…that depends on your beliefs.
One of the other effects of Christ’s death is that we are acceptable before God. (Col. 2:13) We are Reconciled. (2nd Corinthians 5:19 thru 21) We are Forgiven (Romans 3:25) We are Delivered.(Col.1:13) We are accepted in the Beloved. (Eph.1:6) We are assured future Glorification (Romans 8:30) We are Justified. (Romans 3:24)
To Justify, is to declare righteous. It is a judicial term indicating that a verdict of acquittal has been announced, excluding all possibility of condemnation. Indeed, in the Scriptures, Justification is invariably set over against condemnation. (Deut. 25:1 Romans 5:16; 8:33 and 34) The claims of God’s Law against the sinner have been fully satisfied. Justification is not because of any overlooking, suspended sentence, or alteration of God’ righteous demands, but because in Christ all of His demands have been fulfilled. Christ’s perfect life of obedience to the Law and His atoning death which paid its penalty are the bases for our Justification. (Romans 5:9) Justification could never be based on our good works, for God requires perfect obedience, which is impossible for Man. (Romans 3:20, Gal.2:16-21,3:11, Titus 3:5-7)
The means of Justification is faith (Romans 3:22, 25, 28, 30). Faith is the means or channel through which God’s grace can impute the righteousness of Christ to the believing transgressor. (Romans 5:1&2.) When we believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and the Messiah, and are baptized in His name, God drops all charges of Sin against us; thus we stand acquitted. (Acts 13:38-41) Then God justly announces that acquittal, and that pronouncement is Justification.
SANCTIFICATION THROUGH CHRIST
The word sanctify means to set apart (it has the same root as the words saint and holy). For Christians, sanctification has three aspects. First the believer has been set apart by his position in the family of God. This is usually called positional sanctification. It means being set apart as a member of the family of God. It is true of every believer regardless of his or her spiritual state. Read 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 and remember the carnal condition of these believers. That this positional sanctification is based on the death of Christ is clear from Hebrews 10:10, 1Cor.1:30, 2Thess. 2:13, 1 Peter 1:2.
Of coarse there is also an experiential aspect of sanctification. Because we have been set apart we are to be increasingly set apart in our daily lives (1 Peter 1:16). In the positional sense no one is more sanctified than another, but in the experiential aspect it is quite correct to speak of one believer as being more sanctified than another. All the exhortations of the New Testament concerning spiritual growth are pertinent to this progressive and experiential factor of sanctification.
RECONCILIATION WITH GOD
This is the process by which God and His people are brought together again. The Bible teaches that they were alienated from one another because of God’s holiness and human sinfulness. Although God the Father loves the sinner, (Romans 5:8), it is impossible for Him not to judge Sin, (Hebrews 10:27). Therefore, in Biblical reconciliation, both parties are affected. Through the sacrifice of Christ, people’s Sins are atoned for and God’s wrath is appeased. Thus, a relationship of hostility and alienation is changed into one of peace and fellowship, (Ephesians 2:13-19).
The initiative in reconciliation was taken by God, while we were still sinners and enemies, Christ died for us (Romans 5:8&10, Col. 1:21). Reconciliation is God’s own plan. God Himself “…has reconciled us to Himself through Jesus Christ.” Paul regarded the Gospel as “…the word of reconciliation”, (2nd Corinthians. 5:18&19).
ADOPTED INTO THE FAMILY OF GOD
Adoption is a particularly wonderful benefit of the New Covenant. Every time you read “son” in relation to a believer in John’s writings, for instance, you should translate it “child”, for John does not write of the sonship of the believer. (Even though he acknowledges that we are “children of God, 1John 3:1) But on the other hand Paul reveals that we are adopted as sons. It is true that we are “The Children of God” by the new birth, but it is also true that we are adopted into God’s family at the same time. Romans 8:14-23, 9:4&8, 2Corinthians 6:18, Galatians 3:26, 4:5-7 Ephesians 1:5, 2:19, Philippians 2:15. In the act of adoption a child is taken by a man from a family not his own, introduced into a new family, and regarded as a true son with all the privileges and responsibilities that belong to this new relationship. The imagery in the idea of a child of God is one of birth, growth, and development into maturity; the idea in sonship is that of full fledged privileges in the new family of God. Adoption bestows a new status on the one who receives Christ. The results of adoption are deliverance from slavery of Sin and the Law, and from the flesh (Gal. 4:1 thru 5 Romans 8:14 thru 17), and it is the Holy Spirit who enables us to enjoy the privileges of our position. Forgiveness, Propitiation, Justification, Redemption, Sanctification, Reconciliation, and Adoption are the Seven Biblical elements of the Doctrine of Salvation. And as such are of extreme importance but, many religions, even most religions do not recognize the Seven elements of the doctrine of Salvation. They either ignore or modify these doctrines so that they do not contradict their own man made doctrines. And in doing so preach a false doctrine.
I do not count Glorification as an element of Salvation because it is down the road from Salvation. I don’t want you to think I forgot it. Belief vary as to when this occurs There is a beliefs that we will not be fully glorified until our position and practice are brought into perfect accord lol, and or this will occur only when we see Christ and “and shall be like Him.” (1 John 3:1 thru 3)
Now does this occur when Christ returns and or the Rapture…that depends on your beliefs.
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Amen! Awesome wisdom in this teaching! Thank you for sharing!
If I am discussing something about Grailhunter's Corner I will put it at the top of the list.
@Heart2Soul Maybe about being slightly off topic, from a while back?
@Heart2Soul PS: I suppose sometimes it means reviving a thread that was dormant?
...I'm shocked that you even have to explain this, utterly shocked! ...but, then again, Grailhunter did say some pretty radical things in his essay, so maybe the warning signs were there?
On the contrary, this, almost single-handedly, is the main fundamental reason as to why the trinity concept is from the devil. For only the devil is the author of confusion and nonsense. If a doctrine does not bring glory to God, then it is not from God, but His adversary. Hermeneutical principle #1.
...sorry, that doesn't make any sense, at all?
...are you trying to tell me now, that therefore, your comment was from God?
No I am saying just as I said....the doctrine men made, did not make sense and they site that as proof it is of God. What is going on, is that they insinuating that God is not smart enough to explain it. The word Trinity and the phrase Original Sin and others do not appear in the scriptures for a good reason.
Wow, sorry Grailhunter, i didn't read your entire article, but this is entirely antithetical reasoning. You'll have to take the time to explain much more of what you are trying to say. Is it that you are denouncing this logic, or supporting it? For, again, it sounds absolutely absurd to me for the reasons that I gave - no wisdom and soundness, then no glory to God, then no viable doctrine.
When someone bumps a thread that hasn't been posted in for a while, it makes it easier for others to find and helps it to get noticed more.
So if a thread gets buried among a lot of other threads, and then someone bumps it, it's back at the top of the most recent posts and the thread is easily seen again.
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