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Featured Great falling away (is this happening now?)

Discussion in 'Christian Theology Forum' started by friend of, May 3, 2019.

  1. It is happening right now (21st century commencement)

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  2. It will happen in the future (apostasy will be even more dramatic than it is now)

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  3. It has been happening since Christ died and was resurrected

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  4. Other (please provide explanation in response)

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  1. Earburner

    Earburner Well-Known Member

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    There is no such thing as a one man band, miracle man, the churches all love to call " THE" Antichrist. However, those words are not in the KJV Bible, but they sure as such are written in all the "fake bibles".
    Do you think THAT is part of the "strong delusion"?Most christians are looking for a fictitious character, INSTEAD of looking for Jesus to suddenly appear from Heaven in flaming fire?
     
  2. ScottA

    ScottA Well-Known Member

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    The "great falling away" began at [the fall]...which was and is, great.

    The signs of the times that you mentioned are simply the signs of the exodus of the lot, the foreshadowing of which can be read of in the story of Lot.

    But many are unaware, not wanting to know the truth. Notice that Paul did not specify that the events he named must occur were future in world history, but rather future to the individual that is unaware and might misunderstand and be deceived. Indeed, for all who are unaware, it is yet future...because, as Paul indicated, it has not yet been revealed to them (personally). So it is with every "son of perdition", meaning every son of the flesh. Thus, when one knows he is born of sin and repents, he no longer "opposes and exalts himself above all the is called God." And because these times of the gentiles are "great", so is the tribulation and the falling away, that the times should be fulfilled during a similar type of blindness upon the gentiles, not unlike that placed upon Israel, until these same times of the gentiles are fulfilled.
     
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  3. Bobby Jo

    Bobby Jo Well-Known Member

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    When we can't "buy or sell" without the mark of the beast, there's a better than 50% chance that "christians" will be like Peter in the courtyard and preserve their "life"/"job"/"home"/"food"/etc.

    As such, one might consider that "day" (which is about 2 years away according to my best understanding) and prepare their "options" using their "purse", "bag", and "sword":

    Luke 22:35 And he said to them, “When I sent you out with no purse or bag or sandals, did you lack anything?” They said, “Nothing.” 36 He said to them, “But now, let him who has a purse take it, and likewise a bag. And let him who has no sword sell his mantle and buy one.

    Or, you can be SURPRISED:

    1 Thess. 5:3 When people say, “There is peace and security,” then sudden destruction will come upon them as travail comes upon a woman with child, and there will be no escape. 4 But you are not in darkness, brethren, for that day to surprise you like a thief.


    As for me, I prefer to be PREPARED! :)



    But I hear they will be offering FREE SHOWERS! :)
    Bobby Jo
     
  4. Enoch111

    Enoch111 Well-Known Member

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    You are wrong on both counts.

    1. Christians are not "looking for" the appearance of the Antichrist, who is by no means fictitious. They simply recognize that he will coming in the near future.

    2. When Christ comes for His saints it will not be in flaming fire taking vengeance. Rather it will be for the perfection and glorification of the saints. It is only after that (at the Second Coming of Christ) when He comes in flaming fire.

    You have a lot to learn, so perhaps you should be learning instead of making such uninformed remarks.
     
  5. marks

    marks Well-Known Member

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    2 Thessalonians 1
    1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
    2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
    3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

    The catching away of the church
    The day of wrath and judgment
    Apostasia - away from standing, rebellion, departure
    anti-christ
     
  6. Dave L

    Dave L Guest

    We are presently under the gog and magog attack of Revelation 20. The Lord could return today.
     
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  7. marks

    marks Well-Known Member

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    Hi Dave,

    It seems we have very different ways of reading the Bible.

    But anyway, I was just giving some thoughts on that passage.

    Much love!
     
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  8. Dave L

    Dave L Guest

    If it was a snake it would have bitten you by now. Don't miss the boat looking for a space ship.
     
  9. friend of

    friend of Well-Known Member

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    What..? The Man of Sin is the Antichrist.
     
  10. marks

    marks Well-Known Member

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    Um . . . OK.
     
  11. Waiting on him

    Waiting on him Well-Known Member

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    Are you saying the restrainer is the flesh the unregenerate?
     
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    Waiting on him Well-Known Member

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    The man of sin is the unregenerate.
     
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    Waiting on him Well-Known Member

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    I wish you guys would think about what your calming. Jesus hasn’t even unified his church, yet everyone says that when the alleged Antichrist shows up the whole world will follow him. It’s crazy. Can’t even get two people on this forum to be in agreement. It a joke
     
  14. friend of

    friend of Well-Known Member

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    I don't think that fits the context. An unregenerate may yet become regenerated.
     
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    friend of Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, that's eschatology for you.

    Revelation 13:3
     
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    Waiting on him Well-Known Member

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    But when the Antichrist manifests he’s going to convince everyone?
     
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    friend of Well-Known Member

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    Convince everyone of what? No, he's not going to convince everyone. There will be Christians and perhaps other "wise men" (who subsequently become Christian during this revelation) who correctly identify the MOS.
     
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    Waiting on him Well-Known Member

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    The man of sin... that’s pretty obvious.
     
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    Okay, that means Satan was released. My question then is, when was Satan locked away (and) on what date thereabouts was he released?

    Thanks
     
  20. n2thelight

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    The natural world,yes they hate Christ,that's why they are already deceived,yet it's also why only Christians can be deceived. keep in mind that he(satan) is and will be supernatural,something flesh man has never seen.
     
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