Hard Truth For Non Tongue Speakers

[JesusIsFaithful]

I just popped back here after a while of ignoring this Thread. :)

I find that you somehow seem to be under the illusion that you "know so much about what 'tongue speakers' do, pray, or think...how can this be, as you aren't one!!! You sound as if you have lived in deepest Mongolia and are expounding upon it...but in fact you have never been to deepest Mongolia, can't speak their language and know nothing about them at all...but that doesn't stop you 'waxing eloquent' on the subject!! LOL

For those reading, since my beloved sister is refusing correction by the scripture....

I believe one can read about the errors of catholicism, check with their official Catholic catechism to confirm said errors, and know what the Catholic Church is about without being one.

Same goes for any cult in christianity.

I do not have to be a tongue speakers to know His words what tongues are for; for God to speak unto the people as prophesied. 1 Corinthians 14:21

The Catholic Church had referred to an earlier time by one of the "early church fathers" that he was using tongues as a sign that they were keeping the doctrines within the church. NOT!

Joyce Meyers used her moment when what she believed was the holy Spirit coming over her and giving her tongues as a "sign" of God calling her into the ministry. NOT!

My former neighbor across testified to reading her Bible at the kitchen table when she felt what she believed was the holy Spirit coming over her and giving her tongues and she took that as a sign as when she was saved even though she had been a believer before that moment for quite some time.

NOT!

Tongue speakers do not know what that kind of tongue is, because it comes with no interpretation, and so they keep referring to it as a sign which proves it is not of Him at all when tongues are not supposed to serve as a sign towards the already saved believers for anything, let alone proof you are receiving the Holy Ghost.

Tongues are to serve as a sign to unbelievers as they hear the gospel in their native tongue while some will not believe; 1 Corinthians 14:22

Modern tongue speakers are using tongues as a sign when any believer thinks they are receiving the Holy Spirit apart from salvation. It is not funny when no other gifts of the Spirit are obtained in that way which is why Paul said what he did about that one baptism that we all had been baptized by having that one drink of the One Spirit reproving any false teaching and false phenomenon that the Holy Spirit can be received again by a sign. 1 Corinthians 12:13

There is a supernatural tongue in the world that is just vain and profane babbling nonsense and it is not God's gift of tongues to speak unto the people.

God would call sinners out from that kind of tongue and away from their spirits and idolatry to a personal reconciled relationship through the Son.

You, as a reader, should consider why no tongue speaker with the actual God's gift of tongues are reproving that other supernatural tongue at all for God's gift of tongues could never be practiced for private use. They never do because they are doing both.. or some will claim. Thanks to Him, I discern that they do not have the actual God's gift of tongues.

The Spirit of truth would have reproved them with interpretation, but He has not when they all speak the same language and ignoring His reproofs in the KJV for why it is plainly not of Him at all when they testify to receiving a "second blessing".

Ignore the other calling for another drink of the One Spirit because it is not of Him and it never will be. There is only one drink of the One Spirit that we all had been baptized by and that had happened at our salvation when we first believed at the calling of the gospel. 2 Thessalonians 2:13-15 So rest in Jesus Christ today that you are filled as promised when you were saved.

John 6:35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.

Matthew 9:17 Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved.

 

[Enoch111]

I do not have to be a tongue speakers to know His words what tongues are for; for God to speak unto the people as porphesied. 1 Corinthians 14:21

It does not matter what you have to say about this. Pentecostals and Charismatics are sincerely convinced that they speak in tongues. But not all Christians are of this persuasion.

 

[JesusIsFaithful]

It does not matter what you have to say about this. Pentecostals and Charismatics are sincerely convinced that they speak in tongues. But not all Christians are of this persuasion.

It does matter to God as He has given enough warnings for us to say about this to warn newbies from following after them.

 

[Helen]

"For you"...it has become an obsession...which make you no better that the people you are openly judging here...myself included.

You are down some rabbit trail. To have you so side tracked , when you have really good comments to make on other threads...keeps the devil happy.

While you are obsessing here, you are not post good stuff elsewhere.
You have fallen into the devils trap...he loves it christian gets obsessed with one thing that keeps him 'busy.'...which only they care about!!

 

[JesusIsFaithful]

"For you"...it has become an obsession...which make you no better that the people you are openly judging here...myself included.

You are down some rabbit trail. To have you so side tracked , when you have really good comments to make on other threads...keeps the devil happy.

While you are obsessing here, you are not post good stuff elsewhere.
You have fallen into the devils trap...he loves it christian gets obsessed with one thing that keeps him 'busy.'...which only they care about!!

Reminding believers of the traditions taught of us as to when they had received the sanctification of the Spirit and the belief of the truth at the calling of the gospel to prevent believers from heeding any other calling to chase after just for a sign of tongues without interpretation is not an obsession BUT the defense of the faith in Jesus Christ.

Whereas tongue speakers by their testimonies, preach another calling, another "Spirit" to receive by a sign of tongues with no interpretation, and thus preaching another gospel is an obsession. It is hardly preaching Jesus Christ and Him crucified by how they receive that "sign of tongues" but seeking in receiving the Holy Spirit apart from salvation is what is being preached to get that vain & profane babbling tongue with no interpretation.

So look at what any believer cares to defend; their faith in Jesus Christ or their tongues gained by something not every born again believer has, because there is no way a believer can preach both when there is only one hope of our calling by Whom we had received that baptism with the Holy Spirit by.

Ephesians 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

There is one body and that means one hope of our calling by that one Spirit of baptism that had come at our salvation at the calling of the gospel.

2 Thessalonians 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: 14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

There can be no other drink of the One Spirit otherwise that divides the body of believers by having another drink and thus no longer sharing in the same testimony that we all are supposed to share since our salvation.

1 Corinthians 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

1 Corinthians 1:9 God is faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord.10 Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.

Tongue speakers are the ones preaching the extra calling and another baptism with the Holy Spirit to receive apart from salvation just to get that tongue that comes with no interpretation and that is why it is not of Him and why that tongue is not the real God's gift of tongues for speaking unto the people; not for speaking in vain with no interpretation. When God speaks directly in the past to edify or to reprove, it is understood by the hearer.

He has not changed to become the God of confusion and so it is not of Him at all, neither by how it is gained by another calling or another baptism.

 

[Helen]

So look at what any believer cares to defend; their faith in Jesus Christ or their tongues gained by something not every born again believer has, because there is no way a believer can preach both when there is only one hope of our calling by Whom we had received that baptism with the Holy Spirit by.

See THIS is why I say that you are losing it and coming obsessed with this.

"Maybe" YOU have have some relative , friend, or know some church which is teaching something beside " Christ and Him Crucified"....but just because YOU have a bug up your nose about it from somewhere...WHY to you have to keep ranting on and on about it HERE?

I have been on this Site a long time...I can honestly say I remember about two Threads devoted to this subject.
WHO is it that you keep accusing of this...WHO??

Quote:- "Whereas tongue speakers by their testimonies,..." Where?
Quote:-"Tongue speakers are the ones preaching the extra calling and another baptism with the Holy Spirit " WHERE and WHO??

I sure don't see it happening on this Site...
It is YOU who started all this .
It is YOU who keep on talking about it..not me, not us!!
No one else is?

That is why I say you have bought into some stupid obsession about it.
Only you are the one going on and on about tongues.

You are beginning to make yourself look foolish...
There is a dog in our neighbourhood that once he gets spooked he starts barking and just can't stop.

Take heed...
I mean, how many ways from Sunday are you going to keep on repeating yourself?

 

[JesusIsFaithful]

See THIS is why I say that you are losing it and coming obsessed with this.

"Maybe" YOU have have some relative , friend, or know some church which is teaching something beside " Christ and Him Crucified"....but just because YOU have a bug up your nose about it from somewhere...WHY to you have to keep ranting on and on about it HERE?

I have been on this Site a long time...I can honestly say I remember about two Threads devoted to this subject.
WHO is it that you keep accusing of this...WHO??

Quote:- "Whereas tongue speakers by their testimonies,..." Where?
Quote:-"Tongue speakers are the ones preaching the extra calling and another baptism with the Holy Spirit " WHERE and WHO??

I sure don't see it happening on this Site...
It is YOU who started all this .
It is YOU who keep on talking about it..not me, not us!!
No one else is?

Readers can check "Praying in Tongues" thread and this thread for replies that even has one tongue speaker trying to be polite in wishing me that I may too receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit.

What I Am I not a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ & that God raised Him from the dead? Do I not have that baptism with the Holy Spirit which is the same born again of the Spirit Jesus was talking about for when we are saved?

But the sentiment was given to me as a believer because of what? I don't speak in tongues?

Now consider all the ramifications coming out of that.

Thus giving another calling and another gospel.

It is statement like that puts any believer in doubt about having that Holy Spirit when they had gotten saved when they had believed in Jesus Christ at the calling of the gospel just because they don't speak or pray in tongues.

That is why I say you have bought into some stupid obsession about it.
Only you are the one going on and on about tongues.

You are beginning to make yourself look foolish...
There is a dog in our neighbourhood that once he gets spooked he starts barking and just can't stop.

Take heed...
I mean, how many ways from Sunday are you going to keep on repeating yourself?

I repeat for the readers since advocates for using tongues privately are not hearing what all tongue speakers are all saying, not even in this thread.

I remind them of the traditions taught of us as scripture affirms in keeping the faith in Jesus Christ which is the good fight.