Here is why, as an Adventist, I believe America is in Trouble.

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Brakelite

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So says the one who subscribes to a definition of the mark that doesn't come from the bible. Your words are meaningless here.
It's called the "mark of the beast". No futurist ought to have the temerity to comment on someone's thought process on this topic considering their complete lack of transparency in identifying the beast. How many candidates for the position of Antichrist have futurists offered since Gorbachev and his mark?
 
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It's called the "mark of the beast".


And it isn't described as Sunday worship is it? Nope. It's been redefined by SDAs to match their own personal theology. I believe in Sola Scriptura but the SDA view on the mark is not Sola Scriptura.
 

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It's called the "mark of the beast". No futurist ought to have the temerity to comment on someone's thought process on this topic considering their complete lack of transparency in identifying the beast. How many candidates for the position of Antichrist have futurists offered since Gorbachev and his mark?
never bow before the new world religoin and its ten commandments . The world religoin IS HERE and many are sucking it up .
 
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And it isn't described as Sunday worship is it? Nope. It's been redefined by SDAs to match their own personal theology. I believe in Sola Scriptura but the SDA view on the mark is not Sola Scriptura.
If you understood the truth, and the identity of the beast, you would have no issues for the beast itself boasts of it's own mark. And the nature of the mark harmonizes with scripture. Any recognition of Sunday sacredness alone isn't that which brings down God's judgement... it's the acceptance of such as a replacement for Sabbath keeping... Obeying the 4th commandment... That brings judgement. Exalting man's tradition above God's Commandments.
Compare those inside the city...

KJV Revelation 22:14
14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

KJV Revelation 14:12
12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus .

with those outside...

KJV Revelation 22:15
15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie .

KJV Revelation 14:10-11
10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

KJV Revelation 20:9
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
 

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If you understood the truth, and the identity of the beast, you would have no issues for the beast itself boasts of it's own mark.

The issue is that you are ignoring what the bible says about the mark. It's not Sunday worship from the RCC. The RCC isn't the beast, but it is a shadow of it.
 
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Since "the Beast" of Revelation 13 is none other than "the Man of Sin" the RCC is definitely NOT the Beast. While the RCC represents False Christianity, the Beast has an idolatrous worldwide religion in which Satan and the Beast are worshipped.
When we once served satan the prince of this air , How did we do so . THROUGH the lusts of the flesh .
I say that because we already have a one world religion at work . And now its gathering all religions as well as secular
right into its web to be as one . To them its a god of love or love itself . But they know not
that it is not GOD nor is it love . THERE is but one way to GOD and that is IN the SON
but that aint what this all inclusive we are one religion teaches . IT is fine with all paths and all religoins .
And it honors sin . SOmething JESUS NOR GOD WOULD EVER ONCE have done .
YET they think its love and the religious thinks its love and GOD . When in truth , IT IS OF THE DRAGON .
FOlks keep waiting for this coming so called one world religoin which is authored by satan to bring all to the beast
and YET ITS HERE AND ON THE MOVE as we speak . Growing in both size and darkness daily
and many have bowed to its love . Which as i said aint love and it aint of GOD either . ITS A DELUSION being sent
unto the world who rejected the love of the truth and wanted pleasure in unrighteousness . ITS HERE NOW . and growing .
But the lambs have KING JESUS and we wont bow before its lie .
 

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How do you convince a world to cast aside its religous beliefs and includes even the atheist .
Well first you go about changing the religoins from within and making them come to believe they are serving the same God
and you make that God a version of the worlds LOVE . LOVE is something all religoins and even atheists long for
SO along comes satan and says alas i shall give them a love god that will cause them to worship me as one .
Do remember satan has always desired to be as GOD and to have the worship of all men .
Let us dig into our bibles and learn Christ and all sound doctrine well . For as you can see the devil knows how
to use words too only he uses a version that brings the world to him through disobediance and unbelief in Christ and GOD .
Satan sleepth not and the mystery of inquity rests not , he and it have taken many captive
through a lie of a love which is not of GOD but rather is of the world and feeds the flesh and desires of men who desire
this world .
 
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I was in UAE many years ago , one would have thought back then there was no way
you would one day see muslims , buddists , so called christains and even secular joining as one .
But satan has been busy . He knows how to decieve and he knows how to gather the folks as one right under HIM
and his beast to come . How do you get the faiths , and false religoins and even secular to come together
preach a love that the world loveth and mold them all from within . Through education , through media
through doctrine in the churches and mosques and all . We are witnessing the advanced decay
of a world who has waxed bold against the truth and now its becoming quite clear where it is all headed too
and who Runs it and where it leads . It is of the dragon who has corrupted the rainbow
Convinced the churches to sell out the gospel and convinced them to merge as one with the world . My advice
GET in those bibles and cling to CHRIST . FOr the flood of deceptoin taketh many captive .
And if one is not standing upon the SOLID CORNER STONE CHRIST JESUS , that FLOOD is gonna take them captive to a lie .
 

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That religoin has not just led them to the dragon but if folks repent not of it , RIGHT TO THE PERDITON of ungodly men
under the wrath of GOD who will NOT have the SON TROD UNDER FOOT for a false love gathering .
 
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You and @Enoch111 haven't studied prophecy and history as well as you might like to believe. What you don't understand and haven't seen you shouldn't criticize.
Love not the creation more than the creator . They have their religoin now and it grows .
This world religoin even has its own ten commandments .
The second of those ten reads as follows . CREATION MANIFESTS DIVINITY.
THAT is a total abomination . YET there it is for all to read . We must not believe the lie .
 
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The world and her religoins have made them a huge golden bull to dance around and comit fornication .
ITs none other than the golden bull of LOVE and its a LOVE that all can accept . For it judges not the sin
it accepts the sin . It corrects not the ungodly on his path of darkness it accepts the path he is on as valid .
Let no lamb who names the name of CHRIST dance unto the golden love bull . FOr it is a love that DENIES CHRIST , DENIES GOD
and accepts and honors sins . Thus it cometh from none other than the DRAGON HIMSELF .
That ol serpent who decieved EVE and mankind aint been sleeping , HIMS BEEN DECIEVING and HE has many men and women
even within the realm of christedom who have worked long and hard to transform the children right into the kingdom of darkness
only they think its LIGHT , ITS LOVE , ITS GOD and HIS PLAN for one world peace and safety and unity .
NO its not . JESUS didnt come to DENY HIMSELF and bring world peace . Quick reminder
WHO destroys through peace , ANTI CHRIST DOES
and what happens to the folks about the time they are chanting peace and safety ............SUDDEN DESTRUCTION DOES .
THAT is where this one world religoin of false love and unity is leading all right too . THE DAY OF THE WRATH OF GOD upon
the ungodly who repented not but chose a lie chose to have pleasure in unrighteouness and shunned the truth of the gospel .
 

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If you understood the truth, and the identity of the beast, you would have no issues for the beast itself boasts of it's own mark. And the nature of the mark harmonizes with scripture. Any recognition of Sunday sacredness alone isn't that which brings down God's judgement... it's the acceptance of such as a replacement for Sabbath keeping... Obeying the 4th commandment... That brings judgement. Exalting man's tradition above God's Commandments.
Compare those inside the city...

KJV Revelation 22:14
14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

KJV Revelation 14:12
12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus .

with those outside...

KJV Revelation 22:15
15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie .

KJV Revelation 14:10-11
10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

KJV Revelation 20:9
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
This beast is not even human, so was never covered by the Atonement of the Cross. The beast was never named in the Lamb's book of life. Scripture claims this is the number of mankind, not the number of the beast.

Scripture also says received. So Satan and company do not hand out this mark. They only highly recommend, people receive it.

Scripture points to God as the one who seals them as being the same point at which He removes their names from the Lamb's book of life. They are eternally sealed as Adam's dead corruptible flesh, no longer capable of being redeemed.

Paul would call them reprobate, but until the 7th Seal is removed, no human can have their names removed. Reprobate people over the last 1900 years are in sheol, and their names removed at the GWT. Those 42 months are after the 7th Seal has been removed. These reprobate people will be walking around on earth with that Seal or mark showing to all who see them, they are no longer named in the Lamb's book of life. Those who do remain in the Lamb's book of life incidentally no longer have their heads attached to their bodies, and will not be needing to buy, sale, or trade anything.
 

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The world and her religoins have made them a huge golden bull to dance around and comit fornication .
ITs none other than the golden bull of LOVE and its a LOVE that all can accept . For it judges not the sin
it accepts the sin . It corrects not the ungodly on his path of darkness it accepts the path he is on as valid .
Let no lamb who names the name of CHRIST dance unto the golden love bull . FOr it is a love that DENIES CHRIST , DENIES GOD
and accepts and honors sins . Thus it cometh from none other than the DRAGON HIMSELF .
That ol serpent who decieved EVE and mankind aint been sleeping , HIMS BEEN DECIEVING and HE has many men and women
even within the realm of christedom who have worked long and hard to transform the children right into the kingdom of darkness
only they think its LIGHT , ITS LOVE , ITS GOD and HIS PLAN for one world peace and safety and unity .
NO its not . JESUS didnt come to DENY HIMSELF and bring world peace . Quick reminder
WHO destroys through peace , ANTI CHRIST DOES
and what happens to the folks about the time they are chanting peace and safety ............SUDDEN DESTRUCTION DOES .
THAT is where this one world religoin of false love and unity is leading all right too . THE DAY OF THE WRATH OF GOD upon
the ungodly who repented not but chose a lie chose to have pleasure in unrighteouness and shunned the truth of the gospel .
The greatest threat against religious liberty is not left wing democrat woke politics. Whether in the US or it's counterpart in Australia, New Zealand, Britain, or Canada or anywhere else in western society. The greatest threat against religious liberty is not government, but an apostate church that uses government for it's own ends. In the US, an apostate protestant church.
 

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The greatest threat against religious liberty is not left wing democrat woke politics. Whether in the US or it's counterpart in Australia, New Zealand, Britain, or Canada or anywhere else in western society. The greatest threat against religious liberty is not government, but an apostate church that uses government for it's own ends. In the US, an apostate protestant church.
The most dangerous and deadly , most deceptive being to be is the devil himself .
And yes indeed my friend he has taken captive many churches .
But he cannot take captive the one true church of GOD , for JESUS leads the lambs
and The VOICE of the great shepard is the VOICE the true lambs shall hear , follow and obey .
The apostate churches do the will of men , of satan and of the world .
TIME TO EXPOSE them and point only to CHRIST JESUS . Point only to the holy inspired truth of scriptures .
The battle for the souls of men has long raged , And now near the end it has sprung up
to unite all who dwell in darkness to rise as one against the LAMB , against the true lambs , against the truth
and words of the HOLY LORD . The battle is not new , its been going on . BUT it has grown massive now .
A delusion has been birthed of the dragon and of the harlot to lead the world under the guise of a false love
to unite the faiths , to unite them even with the other false religoins , to unite them to be as one with the world .
We can see the langauge of this delusion and its lie in every realm . In politics , in science , in the medicine world
in religoins and even within christendom . I shun its message to hell and its false love to hades , IF I COULD .
For out of true love , by the power of the SPIRIT i shall expose its false unity WHICH IS ALL OVER
every single denomination man has ever created . TIME for BIBLES , TIME To learn JESUS CHRIST
Time to test all men and who does speak and time to point only to the TRUTH , TO the WORD and Words of GOD
BIBLE TIME , cause no other book can be trusted in . BIBLE .
FOr many teachers have come in to decieve . This world aint gonna make it for much longer .
But the true lambs simply await the new heavens and the new earth wherein righteousness dwells .
The protestant realm is in dire danger and is being led to the deception birthed in the RCC
and which has taken hold of every religoin , even secular . Beware the deceptoins of folks gone wrong .
 

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Amazing how it was predicted that Trump would make Sunday worship mandatory! Wait, he didn't do that....Biden! Biden must have because that's what happens right? I guess he didn't do that either but someone will because...it's in the bible right?? Maybe near the end of the bible, hidden away where most don't bother reading?

Nope.


Nothing about Sunday worship being law, or Saturday Sabbath being illegal. Those concepts don't come from the bible at all.
You are exactly correct. Sunday laws and restrictions against Sabbath observance absolutely do not come from scripture. Which is precisely why such concepts ought to be opposed by every Christian believer in religious liberty. It is concerning that the powerful movements in the world today gathering together in order to create a universal Christian state, and who all share in only a few doctrines, most of them false including Sunday sacredness, can be so ignored and written off by otherwise well meaning Christians such as yourself as of no account and no threat to anyone's liberties.
 

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You are exactly correct. Sunday laws and restrictions against Sabbath observance absolutely do not come from scripture.


Yet people like you believe in these fairly tales in regard to the GT and the MOB. God never one time said Sunday worship would be mandated by the AC, nor that the MOB has anything at all to do with Sunday worship. And Sabbath restrictions? Laughable. It doesn't bother you at all that none of these things are mentioned in the bible. It's made up nonsense by your religion.
 

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God never one time said Sunday worship would be mandated
Correct. They're is nothing specific in prophecy that said the AC would mandate Sunday observance. Yet it happened anyway. And will happen again because the leopard didn't change his spots, and Sunday sacredness is the beast's favorite doctrine.