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You still saying it's eternal? I thought you said parts of it aren't relevant anymore.

If you knew what the Living Word was, you would never say any part of it is irrelevant.

Luke 4:4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.

It is your question that is an irrelevant waste of time.
 

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I was raised in an very Christian environment literally from when I was born. The funny thing is, I can't recall any time where I believed it. Even as a youngster it didn't make sense to me. And when I'd ask questions I'd either get (what seemed to me) nonsense answers like "just have faith", or be chastised for daring to question the faith in the first place.

But overall, the story Christianity tells from Genesis through Revelations just doesn't make sense to me. When I try and think of it as the way a god would do things, it makes even less sense. But when I put it in the context of it being one among countless religions that humans have invented throughout history, it makes sense.
The Bible explains why people like you can not understand it.
 

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Yes!! Jesus is a JEW!!
Jesus was a Hebrew from the tribe of Judah.
The word Jew can be seen as a vast many of things and over such a wide a scope, it's another stupid word that can mean so much that such a topic can become foolish and just be seen as much nonsense.

The Jews ? what a topic ! such can be so vast and so many miss perceptions in regard to such, so when one is talking to an amateur on any such subject you will come across so much nonsense that is just dribble. because they are only indoctrinated on such a subject or totally ignorant or brainwashed stupid beyond belief.

One gets morons claiming that the Jews are our Salvation, such is total nonsense, it's only Jesus who Saves, the Jews never could save themselves, they needed Jesus for that, but the mob that crept in played the Jews and they worked to undermine them all, it's no surprise as they are Carnal man.
If one claims the Jews are our Salvation, such a one is of Satan.

The Jews were mislead by their own from within and we see in the story of the Vineyard and they killed all of the Prophets and then they tried to undermine Jesus and got him killed. remember who such carnal people are, they are not Gods people for they do not know God at all in fact, as Jesus says who they are Carnal man God less ! one must be born again of the Holy Spirit to understand who is who and what is what.
Carnal man regardless of Jew or not is clearly the same cursed, because they are truly lost.

How can such blind see, for they do not perceive at all, one may as well be talking to a brick wall, because you are not on the same page, they cannot follow what you are truly saying and get it all mixed up and I am not surprised at all about such. so they rant on and on about a subject that they are totally miss interpret, talking from their worldly self absorbed slob Sinners perspective.
Jesus says that you can do nothing without him ? and that's a fact because anything that we do that is not in line with the Holy Spirit in Jesus Christ is in vain, such is worthless mans works and as filthy rags. but the worldly man has pride in their filthy rags, for they love them. but in the Kingdom of God we see them for what they truly are, for they are a disgrace to God and a monumental curse !
 
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I was raised in an very Christian environment literally from when I was born. The funny thing is, I can't recall any time where I believed it. Even as a youngster it didn't make sense to me. And when I'd ask questions I'd either get (what seemed to me) nonsense answers like "just have faith", or be chastised for daring to question the faith in the first place.

But overall, the story Christianity tells from Genesis through Revelations just doesn't make sense to me. When I try and think of it as the way a god would do things, it makes even less sense. But when I put it in the context of it being one among countless religions that humans have invented throughout history, it makes sense.

"I was raised in an very Christian environment literally from when I was born."

That is probably where a definition of Christianity probably does help.
Some "Christianity" creates communities that seem more like hell.
Some Christianity seems to create communities that are wonderful to be a part of.

"I can't recall any time where I believed it."
For me, that depended on what people wanted me to believe haha - but I can understand that.

"it didn't make sense to me"
Nor me. there are holes in my faith where I don't know whats going on haha.
Why does God require a sacrifice? What does that say about the quality of God that he needs such things?
Why His son?
How can God have a son?
These sorts of questions start pretty simple but soon get deeper and deeper - shortly, I find no one has a satisfactory answer that brings everything into harmony. (People do their best to explain stuff - but I'm pretty sure they are making a mess - "We see in part" as the saying goes)
Mysteries??.

"...nonsense answers like "just have faith", or be chastised for daring to question the faith in the first place."
That doesn't sound like a "good" God to me.
I know people might say they worship a person called Jesus - but what is their "Jesus" like?
Is He mean, aggressive, a tyrant, abusive? Loving, generous, kind, good, funny?

Those people - Do they value?
Being right all the time? Punishment? "Tough Love"?
grace? love? mercy? forgiveness? forebearance?

The answers to the above questions tell me more about who they serve than the name of who they serve.
In summary - "No questions" doesn't sound like it's from a loving God to me.

"...Genesis through Revelations just doesn't make sense to me. When I try and think of it as the way a god would do things, it makes even less sense..."
Nor me all the time.
If God started speaking with no filter for our feeble minds, our heads would probably explode from astonishment. haha.
Job, at the end of all the disasters he suffers asks God why all this happened. I think God basically said "...if you can't understand the basics of how the universe works, you would never understand any answer I gave you about why the disasters happened"

???

Anyway - best wishes on your search for answers - If you get any ideas - let me know haha
 
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"I was raised in an very Christian environment literally from when I was born."
That is probably where a definition of Christianity probably does help.
Some "Christianity" creates communities that seem more like hell.
Some Christianity seems to create communities that are wonderful to be a part of.
Most I've seen are pretty much like any other group of people, with some good and some bad aspects.

"it didn't make sense to me"
Nor me. there are holes in my faith where I don't know whats going on haha.
Why does God require a sacrifice? What does that say about the quality of God that he needs such things?
Why His son?
How can God have a son?
These sorts of questions start pretty simple but soon get deeper and deeper - shortly, I find no one has a satisfactory answer that brings everything into harmony. (People do their best to explain stuff - but I'm pretty sure they are making a mess - "We see in part" as the saying goes)
Mysteries??.
Sounds very much like what I experienced. When I'd ask those sorts of "but why" questions, it invariably came back to the need to "have faith", which just isn't a satisfying answer to me.

"...nonsense answers like "just have faith", or be chastised for daring to question the faith in the first place."
That doesn't sound like a "good" God to me.
I know people might say they worship a person called Jesus - but what is their "Jesus" like?
Is He mean, aggressive, a tyrant, abusive? Loving, generous, kind, good, funny?

Those people - Do they value?
Being right all the time? Punishment? "Tough Love"?
grace? love? mercy? forgiveness? forebearance?

The answers to the above questions tell me more about who they serve than the name of who they serve.
In summary - "No questions" doesn't sound like it's from a loving God to me.
For sure. Kinda like this....
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"...Genesis through Revelations just doesn't make sense to me. When I try and think of it as the way a god would do things, it makes even less sense..."
Nor me all the time.
If God started speaking with no filter for our feeble minds, our heads would probably explode from astonishment. haha.
Job, at the end of all the disasters he suffers asks God why all this happened. I think God basically said "...if you can't understand the basics of how the universe works, you would never understand any answer I gave you about why the disasters happened"

???

Anyway - best wishes on your search for answers - If you get any ideas - let me know haha
Thanks! I'll keep you posted. ;)
 

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Sick minded anti-semitism is demon inspired.
All that is Anti-Christ is Demonic in fact, so that means and anything that is against or does not understand is in fact of Satan, so one who does not have the Holy Spirit is in fact under Satan's power because they are not of Christ in fact.
There are they who are truly born again of the Holy Spirit and they that are lost and there are they who oppose or they who do not oppose Jesus Christ, this type who do not oppose have faith like a water baptised, but they are not Saved and they do not know Jesus Christ, they know some what of him for there faith but as the weeds of this world can choke them or supress them enough to stunt their growth in faith, just like the religious that we see in the Pharisees and Scribes as that's where most religious are at, but Jesus pointed out that such could not cut it.

There is no such thing as Anti-Semitism in fact it's an oxymoron.

Semitic refers to a race and the overwhelming majority of Semitic people say 90 % are of the Islamic faith in fact.
The Tribe of Israel and Tribes of Judah however are not a race but a Tribe of Religious set apart form all the rest, so Race is not the point or such a foundation are nonsense, it's God that is the foundation and that the people follow God, one has free will to abide or not to.

If one says that they are Anti-Jewish well then we can say ok what is it that one is referring to the OT in someway or the whole ? or to the religious denominations as a whole or to some or one denomination ?

Even under the heading of Christian denominations, there is plenty of debate in such regards and the same is so under the heading of Jewish denominations ? But but but ! under the heading of Anti-Semitic anyone who even shows an interest in debating anything as such under the heading of Jewish denominations is guilty of Anti-Semitism. you have no rights to question anything at all in such matters under Political Correctness Socialist concept, because you are under the Law ? and not under Grace ! such people reject Jesus Christ and they demand to stand over all, just like the Pharisees and Scribes did back in the day, they worked to undermine Jesus Christ and have him killed, they were deluding the Jews back in the days to rob them of their inheritance, nothing has changed today in that regard. the Jews of today are being dominated and enslaved under a mans works and are Lost ! a true Christian knows such is a fact ! but in the last 20, 30 years our Political Correct Marxist dictators power have been increasing to the point of them claiming to be God ! not to mention that they are being totally idolised like a religious fever.
If only Christianity was not lukewarm nowadays but was Hot and had the drive to expose all Satan's works with a passion in Christ Jesus.
 

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So you have to understand it, before you can understand it? o_O
Typical shallow ignorance showing again ? one has to comprehend what it truly is to understand something, mainly the ignorant are barking up the wrong tree. like a dog chasing it's tail or chasing shadows.
There are a lot of idiot religious out and about and sure I know such dribble on with some wacky rubbish and some are deliberately misleading people as that's the nature of religions, Hell even within the Jews religion they were lead astray, fact is that because of Original Sin is why such cunning ruthless people are so successful in doing so. I am not surprised at all because I understand why.

So yes one does have to understand what your trade is before you are worthy to take on such task or even to relate with others of the same class, so I would not give a task to one who was not worthy to be in such class to do so.

It's more to it than just what you claim, take a concrete job I seen down the road on a footpath, a bunch of Asian girls were doing it, I was impressed as I walked by thinking good on them for having a go, it was done wrong and looks shocking but there you go. I was happy and impressed with them for having a go and that's all one can do, until you truly do understand what it is that you are truly doing.

As I say I don't care what one may think, I only care what it is that they know. as their is a big difference !
One may ask me a question and I will reply that I think, or I will point out that I know, it's amazing that some people do not understand the difference.

Some one comes up to Ty Cobb and ask about Baseball, then walks away claiming that Ty thinks this or that.