Homosexual Church Dream

[Giuliano]

So now you really want to try to judge Paul??

No, I'm questioning your grasp of the Bible. Can you tell us what's what in your opinion?

 

[GISMYS_7]

Pray for some wisdom and understanding when you read God's Word and believe it ==All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness. 2 Timothy 3:16

 

[Giuliano]

Pray for some wisdom and understanding when you read God's Word and believe it ==All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness. 2 Timothy 3:16

So why not do some teaching and correcting? How can it be useful for training in righteousness to you if you can't tell if eating meat offered to idols is okay?

 

[GISMYS_7]

So why not do some teaching and correcting? How can it be useful for training in righteousness to you if you can't tell if eating meat offered to idols is okay?

ROFL! When was the last time you ate meat that had been offered to idols??? Don't allow satan to drag you into rabbit holes of zero=no importance!

 

[Confused-by-Christianity]

ROFL! When was the last time you ate meat that had been offered to idols??? Don't allow satan to drag you into rabbit holes of zero=no importance!

Gismys - I’m not following your thinking. All I can see are one line statements .
Could you explain your thinking from beginning to main body to conclusion please?

 

[GISMYS_7]

Satan plants seeds of doubt and unbelief against the truth of inspired eternal living Word of God.

 

[Confused-by-Christianity]

Satan plants seeds of doubt and unbelief against the truth of inspired eternal living Word of God.

I’m not getting you.

I’m having difficulty placing your statements into our conversation

would you like to elaborate?

 

[GISMYS_7]

I’m not getting you.

I’m having difficulty placing your statements into our conversation

would you like to elaborate?

Matthew 7:6 "Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.

 

[Confused-by-Christianity]

Matthew 7:6 "Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.

Fair enough. I’ll take that as the end of our conversation
Take care

 

[Justadude]

Fair enough. I’ll take that as the end of our conversation
Take care

Isn't it fascinating how some Christians just do not know how to interact with non-Christians? It makes me wonder how limited their life experiences are, such that when they encounter someone outside of their faith all they can do is regurgitate Bible verses. Or maybe it's just fear that if they let their guard down, something bad will happen?

I dunno. Whatever it is, it's weird.

 

[GISMYS_7]

""regurgitate Bible verses"" ?? What is more important for an unbeliever to hear than God's eternal living Word?? Truth can be Tough love.

 

[Confused-by-Christianity]

Isn't it fascinating how some Christians just do not know how to interact with non-Christians? It makes me wonder how limited their life experiences are, such that when they encounter someone outside of their faith all they can do is regurgitate Bible verses. Or maybe it's just fear that if they let their guard down, something bad will happen?

I dunno. Whatever it is, it's weird.

Life is a Litany of mysteries (wordplay Intended haha)
I actually really do want to know what people think. Sometimes - there are what seems to be hole in an argument and I’d like to know how the person patches them up.
I think people struggle to say “that’s just how I read the bible” or “I don’t know, I just believe ..x..”
Nothing wrong with saying that (unless you’re trying to persuade someone who doesn’t agree with you - then you can’t say that haha)

 

[GISMYS_7]

The "willing" unbeliever is blinded by satan.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Eating pork is explicitly described as "an abomination". It's ironic that Cornelius was recognized by the Jews as righteous because he kept the commandments of God. Just a coincidence?

The problem with that philosophy is where do you draw the line with sin? Obviously, you draw it with homosexuality, but why there? Paul points out that if you break one of God's commandments, you've essentially broken them all. The glaring problem is that there aren't any people in your church who will claim that they're perfectly sinless.

So would you say that a proud heart or consuming swine or shellfish is as abominable as homosexuality, or that homosexuality is no worse than having a proud heart or eating pork?

Eating swine or shellfish was part of the DIETARY aspects of the Mosaic Law. There were also cleanliness and ceremonial aspects attributed to the over-arching Mosaic Law.
God's Laws governing human sexuality transcend dietary considerations. They go all the way back to Genesis - LONG before Moses and the Law.

We are no longer bound by the dietary, cleanliness, and ceremonial aspects of the Law. Those things were FULFILLED in Christ (Matt. 5:17). They were but shadows of what was to come - and Christ is the reality (Col 2:16-17).
We ARE, however, bound by the MORAL Laws of God.

 

[GISMYS_7]

Again! Sexual perversion is demon inspired.

 

[Nancy]

Plus, if we really did use the prevalence of STD's as an indication of what God does and doesn't approve of, then we'd have to conclude that God must really like lesbians.

Yes...the lowest incidences of all std's!

 

[Giuliano]

ROFL! When was the last time you ate meat that had been offered to idols??? Don't allow satan to drag you into rabbit holes of zero=no importance!

Now you are saying parts of the Bible of zero importance. First you say the Bible is all true and all of it is profitable ; then you say has zero importance. The question remains unamswered.

You also seem to think Satan does things that aren't serious. When Satan deceives people, it is important.

 

[GISMYS_7]

I said your question is irrelevant today!

 

[Giuliano]

I said your question is irrelevant today!

Yes, you are saying that parts of the Bible don't matter. You are saying all scripture is not profitable or useful. You get to decide what parts are useful and what aren't. So we see you don't really believe what you say when you type things like the "truth of inspired eternal living Word of God." You don't believe what you wrote, "Pray for some wisdom and understanding when you read God's Word and believe it ==All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness. 2 Timothy 3:16." Nope, some of it according to you is irrelevant and out of date.

How can you know then if Paul's opinions on homosexuality are relevant? Maybe they aren't.

 

[GISMYS_7]

ROFL! Again I said your question is irrelevant today!