How do conservative evangelicals reconcile their support for Trump with Trump’s sinful lifestyle?

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Naomanos

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440,000 a year, not including coverups! Injured for life! Almost killed!

And? They are human and make mistakes. Sometimes those mistakes hurt people. It doesn't mean that they are malicious in their intent.

These doctors want to help people. Having been around doctors as an EMT in three states and countless hospitals and private practices, I know this to be true. You believe what you want.
 

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And? They are human and make mistakes.
LOTS of them!
Sometimes those mistakes hurt people.
MANY times!
It doesn't mean that they are malicious in their intent.

These doctors want to help people. Having been around doctors as an EMT in three states and countless hospitals and private practices, I know this to be true. You believe what you want.
I KNOW for FACT that they coverup for each other, so they can go home to their mansions paid for by dead people. Kind of like politicians.
 

Naomanos

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LOTS of them!

MANY times!

I KNOW for FACT that they coverup for each other, so they can go home to their mansions paid for by dead people. Kind of like politicians.

The doctors that I knew, none had a mansion and were in it because they wanted to help people.

What do you want them to do, quit because they accidently killed someone?

The one thing I learned as an EMT, you cannot save them all. There is going to be death.

Before downing the medical field, go walk in their shows for a while. You might have a different outlook if you did.
 

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The doctors that I knew, none had a mansion and were in it because they wanted to help people.

What do you want them to do, quit because they accidently killed someone?
Someone? The number is in the MILLIONS.
The one thing I learned as an EMT, you cannot save them all. There is going to be death.

Before downing the medical field, go walk in their shows for a while. You might have a different outlook if you did.
I've been watching this for years. Probably before you were born. You're just not paying attention. Why don't you SPEAK OUT against the MILLIONS of babies killed by Liberals? Oh that's right, you're too busy attacking Trump who saves babies' lives!
 

Naomanos

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Someone? The number is in the MILLIONS.

I'm talking about individual doctors, not doctors as a whole.

I've been watching this for years. Probably before you were born. You're just not paying attention.

Watching and being in the shoes of a medical person are two completely different things.

Why don't you SPEAK OUT against the MILLIONS of babies killed by Liberals?

That is not what I have called to do. There are others who are doing that.
 

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Someone? The number is in the MILLIONS.

I've been watching this for years. Probably before you were born. You're just not paying attention. Why don't you SPEAK OUT against the MILLIONS of babies killed by Liberals? Oh that's right, you're too busy attacking Trump who saves babies' lives!
Trump hasn't saved babies' lives. Abortions are still rampant!
 

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I don't like Trump but he has possibly saved MILLIONS of babies from baby killing Liberals. Anyone who knowingly votes for the baby killers is gonna have a VERY bad day on Judgment Day! They are accessories to MURDER!

"210 Democrats vote against bill requiring medical care for babies born alive after abortion attempt"
I also don't like Trump and I don't plan on voting, however I understand why people vote for him.

In 2021, about 626,000 babies died from abortions, making it the second leading cause of death that year, with heart disease being first (695,547 deaths), and cancer being third (605,213 deaths). If abortion was made completely illegal (I don't think Trump could do that) it would theoretically save more lives than a cure for cancer, before factoring in illegal abortions and other abnormalities. Abortion is not a small issue.
 
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Jack

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I'm talking about individual doctors, not doctors as a whole.

Watching and being in the shoes of a medical person are two completely different things.

That is not what I have called to do
. There are others who are doing that.
Well that's what Christians Do!!! You're strangely silent, except when you support the extremely Pro Abortion Biden!
 

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Well that's what Christians Do!!! You're strangely silent, except when you support the extremely Pro Abortion Biden!

I have stated on here many many times that I am against abortions on demand. I'm not sure how much more vocal I need to be. I am for abortions when the life of the mother is in danger.

I support Biden because I don't want Trump in office. Find me another candidate who isn't Trump or DeSantis and is more moderate and I would likely vote for him or her over Biden.
 

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I have stated on here many many times that I am against abortions on demand. I'm not sure how much more vocal I need to be. I am for abortions when the life of the mother is in danger.

I support Biden because I don't want Trump in office. Find me another candidate who isn't Trump or DeSantis and is more moderate and I would likely vote for him or her over Biden.
That's what I've been saying. You support Biden an EXTREME Pro abortionist instead of Trump who KILLED Roe V Wade! I don't think you're fooling anyone but yourself. Christians do not support baby killers! Pay attention.
 

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That's what I've been saying. You support Biden an EXTREME Pro abortionist instead of Trump who KILLED Roe V Wade! I don't think you're fooling anyone but yourself. Christians do not support baby killers! Pay attention.

Biden is not extreme left. Pay attention. He is a moderate.

I support Biden because there were other policies of his that I could gwt behind. There weren't enough policies of Trumps to get behind and I saw his four years in office and didn't want another four years.

I am not a one policy voter. I am not voting for Biden because he supports abortion. I voted for Biden for other policies.

Look, I am repeating myself and I have had enough of it.

You vote for who you want.
 

Jack

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Biden is not extreme left. Pay attention. He is a moderate.
"Biden railed Monday against the Supreme Court's 2022 decision to overturn the landmark ruling, calling it "a fundamental right ripped away."

I support Biden because there were other policies of his that I could gwt behind. There weren't enough policies of Trumps to get behind and I saw his four years in office and didn't want another four years.

I am not a one policy voter. I am not voting for Biden because he supports abortion. I voted for Biden for other policies.

Look, I am repeating myself and I have had enough of it.

You vote for who you want.
What's more important than saving MILLIONS of babies' lives???
 
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Biden railed Monday against the Supreme Court's 2022 decision to overturn the landmark ruling, calling it "a fundamental right ripped away

Doesn't mean he is an extreme left wing president.

What's more important than saving MILLIONS of babies lives???

Anything I say will be met with that's not good enough.

You're gonna have to come to terms that there are Christians who dont think like you and vote Democrat and that's okay.
 
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Anything I say will be met with that's not good enough.
I expect you are correct in this.

Doesn't mean he is an extreme left wing president.
I would say though that he is extremely liberal, in the sense of conservatives conserve the meaning of the Constitution, while liberals are liberal with the Constitution.

So like, the conservatives say, our rights to bear arms shall not be infringed . . . period, while the liberal says, well, they didn't mean you could have an atom bomb.

When I look at him in this light, he seems extremely liberal. Suppressing free speech, the right to bear arms, to a speedy trial, to be protected from foreign invaders, I could go on. He is socialist, draining money from the citizenry to give to whom he pleases.

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I support Biden because I don't want Trump in office. Find me another candidate who isn't Trump or DeSantis and is more moderate and I would likely vote for him or her over Biden.
Either way, we got problems. The elites aren't going to allow anyone in the run or in the WH who isn't part of the system. And that includes Trump. The plan is moving forward. Antichrist is on the brink, and that is the plan. The elite cult can't afford to allow voters to determine who sits in the WH. (And this isn't just how it works in the US.) They are setting the stage for their man to come to the forefront. They're not going to allow a godly man or woman (who stands for Christ and is against their Babylonian system) to run and get votes.

Anyway .....the plan is in place. They're all in it and have their roles to play to bring this about.
 

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Every signatory to the Declaration of Independence had a seminary degree except for Benjamin Franklin. (Couldn't afford school but his Autobiography starts with a very humble expression of thanks to God)

And in that Declaration it detailed how King George was an Antichrist (26 ways) without expressly stating such because to do so would be a sin.

In Thomas Jefferson's famous letter discussing the separation of "Church and State" the "Church" he refers to is what we refer to as one of the 50 states today.

The USA is very much a Christian nation founded by Christians and for Christians. You really need to peruse Black's Law Dictionary to see the things I'm discussing here as it is extremely illuminating....because that Law dictionary is the legal text used for the basis of the Constitution.

So I don't know where you got your information but basically they lied to you. Even the "pilgrims" at Plymouth Rock we tend to use a more modern term of Missionaries today instead of "pilgrims". They came to escape some persecution yes...but not for a luxury lifestyle....they came to evangelize to the indigenous population.
The claim that every signatory to the Declaration of Independence had a seminary degree except for Benjamin Franklin is not accurate. While it is true that many of the signatories were highly educated and some had religious education or seminary degrees, not all of them did. The backgrounds of the signatories were diverse, encompassing a range of professions including lawyers, planters, merchants, and public officials.
Benjamin Franklin himself was a noted polymath with vast interests and self-taught expertise in a variety of fields, including science, diplomacy, and printing, rather than formal seminary education. Many of the other signatories had legal training or attended colleges that offered a classical education, which at the time could include some religious studies but was not necessarily focused on theology to the extent implied by holding a seminary degree.
For instance, some signatories, like John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, and James Madison, were educated at institutions such as Harvard or the College of William & Mary, where they studied law, philosophy, and the sciences. These educational backgrounds were typical for many of the signatories, reflecting the broad intellectual pursuits of the era rather than a singular focus on theological education.
It's important to understand the context of 18th-century education, where the line between secular and religious studies was not as sharply defined as it might be today, and attending a college often meant receiving some form of religious instruction. However, the claim overstates the case by implying that all but one signatory had formal seminary training.
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Doesn't mean he is an extreme left wing president.
LOL!
Anything I say will be met with that's not good enough.

You're gonna have to come to terms that there are Christians who dont think like you and vote Democrat and that's okay.
I don't really think that there are any Christians who vote for baby killers and gays who are heading for Hell fire.
 

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The purpose of the rally on January 6th was for the people to bring their grievences before congress as the Constitution allows.
The people were there to support their representatives who opposed the legality of the election. Which is the people's right to do.
While Trump was still speaking and before ever saying go to the capital and peacefully protest and make our voices heard,
even before this sentence left his mouth, groups of people were already at the capital which had a plan to cause mayhem.
These were not the people at the rally. They came later.
The intention of the grievence and the protest was to have the electoral votes returned to the states which had sent letters to Pence, stating they wanted 10 days to review to votes.
The left would not tolerate this. And they knew if the electoral votes went back to the states, then "their democracy" would be at risk.

In order for the electoral votes to be reconsidered by the states a certain format must be applied.
There needs to be at least 1 Senator and 1 Representative agree from both chambers before the votes can be returned.

In the Senate certain Senators rose up and challenged the authenticity of the ballots.
They were heading to the House where there were also Representatives willing to vote with the Senators to have them returned.

This never occured, because from the time the Senators left their chamber, to the time they enteresd the House chamber, the riots outside had already begun. The Hose would keep delaying and delaying until finally the House was breached, which then everyone was cleared from the house floor.

Ask yourself this question:
If the Republicans had both the Senate and the House Representatives willing to vote on returning the electoral votes to the states to review for 10 days, WHY WOULD THEY STOP THAT FROM HAPPENING????

The Democrats had their goons and the FBI working together to attack the capital and accuse the republicans of an insurrection.
Because there was no way in hell they was going to chance Trump taking the Presidency again.

You all keep listening to CNN and MSNBC or PBS or CBS, NBC, ABC, or read the NY Times, the Washington Post, or whatever rag you read, and believe what they tell you. Because they're all in bed together to destroy this nation and to set up "their own democracy" .
They want you to bow down to them.
Go ahead, see how far that's gotten us so far?

Anywho, whatever.. it doesn't matter.
What will be will be.
But just stop swallowing the lies OK?
I don't care who you vote for or who you think the better guy is.
Just stop listening to the lies.
Ask Pelosi why her daughter was there with her own crew ready and waiting to catch everything on film, if they had no knowledge that anything was going to happen.
Ask CNN why it is ok that they were in the capital getting media coverage while evryone else in the capital are considered insurrectionists.
They were in there too.

You are watching a movie and they plan to make millions of your dollars off it.

I'm done with politics.
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LOL!

I don't really think that there are any Christians who vote for baby killers and gays who are heading for Hell fire.

And your thinking would be wrong, but think what you want. The truth is not subject to your thinking alone.
 
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