How many former Catholics are here?

[JesusFan]

now go ask a JW why they did .
ASK a mormon why they did
ask a catholic why they did
You gonna find their answer is the same , cause GOD revealed it to be the true one .
Yet i have examined all of those .
RAN FROM THEM .
Now why is that . WHY do some run too one place , another to another place , another to another place
and yet this sheep RAN from such places .
WE CANT ALL BE right . YE SHALL FIND your answer IN THE PAGES OF THAT BIBLE .
and the more we read and enjoy it the more it becomes very evident indeed .

The Sda claims to be also though the true remnant NT Church

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Those pesky heretical Adventists, always setting dates, keeping commandments no-one else does, believing that Jesus judges people before He comes back to take them to meet His Father, oh, yes run from them. Run fast from those sinners.

Yeah these people are trying hard to keep portions of the old testament law.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

The Sda claims to be also though the true remnant NT Church

Not only that, they claim those who are not SDA will burn in hell!

SDA Says Sabbath Breakers Will Be DAMNED

 

[amigo de christo]

The Sda claims to be also though the true remnant NT Church

Let us be on gaurd and beware
for not just do the SDA claim such , but so too does JW and etc
and the king queen who sits over all now Claims SHE too is the one true church .
BELIEVE ME not only are they in deep and deadly error
THEY are NOT the one true church . And those whose faith be IN CHRIST
and g et in their bible
WILL NOT stay seated for long , if they be in such a place , in said place .
THE more one reads them lovely and holy GOD inspired scrips
and all le tters of the apostels and etc
THE MORE they do learn . And the sheep will not heed the voice of a st ranger .
OH they WILL COME OUT . many have through all ages .
IT be BIBLE TIME in the house . FOR JESUS I KNOW SAVES and THE BIBLE is KNOW was and is INSPIRED by GOD .
TRUTH .
The key is T RUTH .
if one hears and beleives amen . but if one heeds men who twist it , OH DEAR , not good , for they do so unto their own
destruction . just a friendly , but necessary reminder , for us all . How do we treat the HOLY GOD INSPIRED
words in that bible. DO WE BELIEVE THEM or do we twist and omit them . That be KEY .

 

[quietthinker]

Lets not kid ourselves or others .
No one said THEY STILL set dates .
But that religoin began on the boot heels of one who had set dates
and an overwhemled school girl who could not face the facts that her beloved miller had been in e rror
Began a religoin based on a lie .
Investigative judgement must be removed . maybe a few other things as well .
Now we have us a harlot and that harlot has and is infiltrated everything .
What do we say to a harlot , NOT TODAY , NOT E VER .
When one cometh out of a harlot , out of babylon, Ensure that babylon and the doctrines of a harlot
are removed . Many do not do that latter part .
THEY hold onto false doctrines still . thus all one can see is
the blind children hollering to the blind children , Come to us and the other side says the same .
It is bible time in the house . My advice
is let all begin anew and afresh , WITHOUT the influence of them pesky mens doctrines , and read it for oneself .

It's a shocking thing that God has committed his Good News to such rascals as fallen man. We now need to point out how certain ones who believe in keeping Gods commandments are the worst offenders......which of course means that those who don't care for them, ie try to dismiss them are so much 'righter'.

 

[rockytopva]

I am Pentecostal Holiness...

1. I had youth leaders who would plan exciting events for us kids
2. Good Sunday School
3. Nice Sunday morning service
4. Take time to pray for the sick and those in need of prayer
5. Nice Wednesday night family night
6. Nice Saturday night service
7. Wonderful revivals many times in a year

I thought early on that if I dwelt among these folk that we would remain shouting glad here on earth until Gabriel's trumpet called us home.

1. Generations - The evil of a generation
2. Comparisons - People comparing themselves with others to judge their state of being
3. Criticisms - The... What's wrong with the church crowd! Never mind they are just a bad as everyone else!

And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. - Matthew 10:36

After a while we are just as bad as everyone else. I have no qualms against any other denomination. In that we forsook a life in the Spirit for one of the flesh makes us the worse! Say you doctrine is better than mine! Well... No... I am not interested... You can have your funeral home to yourself! I made a video in which I would consider our last good service. And... Hating all of that!

 

[Brakelite]

For @Nancy 's benefit however, I'm only to happy to explain. No-one else need read the following, none of it could possibly be true. Could it?

I mentioned I was in the AOG for several years. Youth pastor, frequent preaching, suburban mission work. Enjoyed my time there in the smallish city I was in. Made some good friends.
We moved to Auckland, and attended suburban a church nearby. Congregation size around 350. The assistant pastor/music leader and I became close friends, and are to this day. However, i don't want to disparage any one individual, because there were many fine genuine Christians in that fellowship. My wife and I attended there for about 3 years. We visited a couple of other churches also, and enjoyed some great Bible study groups.

During my time with the AOG, I adopted the futurist view of prophecy, common to most pentecostal churches of that era, the mid 80s.

For a few different reasons, we became disillusioned with the leadership there. It began to follow the mindset developing in America of the time, which has today grown to full blown "you can be rich like me" if you give more. The focus in the preaching may have tickled some ears, but not mine. It's been a long time, so I don't remember specifics. Just a growing dissatisfaction with stuff.
Nor was I content with the preaching of prophecy. The futurist hermeneutic didn't satisfy my growing hunger for truth. I spoke to several people, and no-one could give me satisfactory answers to my questions. The conclusions made concerning antichrist, wars and rumours, the role of Israel, Russia, Iran and America etc came from disparate texts with no linking mechanism and no apparent historical or current time logic. 1948. Did some mention date setting? Several books had Christ coming before the millennium finished. 1988. "The Late Great Planet Earth" was a book I gave away to many. But I couldn't explain it. Some of the points made seemed to excite people, but there was still no linking chain of reference from one projected scenario to another.
It was at that time my work moved into the bush, miles away from any church and very isolated. Having no fellowship of any serious note, we feel away from the church altogether. I still had faith, and frequently witnessed to friends and neighbours, but becoming more and more doubtful concerning the second coming and its timing. I couldn't answer questions from scripture. I still believed Jesus was coming soon, but I couldn't quite pinpoint why. My previous assurances began to crumble, realising the paucity of real authority in much of what I had been taught.
A few years later, having no church, and now living in rural Waikato in the middle of the North Island, I came to a bitter realisation. My marriage was in trouble, my older kids, who I had dedicated to the Lord and promised to raise them in the faith, were now in the world doing the same things l had been doing when I first came to Jesus 20 years previously. My life, and theirs, was falling apart. I went into a quiet room and wept before the Lord and confessed my unfaithfulness, begging the Lord to heal my marriage and bring my kids home. I told the Lord I needed to start my faith from the beginning. I wanted Truth. I wanted a faith that wouldn't fail me, or Him. I needed to start afresh, relearning the gospel, and all the associated truths whereby we could be saved and assured of God's kingdom. God spoke to me in the depths of my spirit, saying, "seek ye first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added unto you". And that's what I did. After 5 years of study, I learned and relearned scripture.
My wife and I have now been married for 48 years. We have 6 children, and all of them are baptized. We have 14 grandchildren, and one of them, an 18 year old grandson, is being dedicated tomorrow by his church as youth pastor.

The gospel isn't complicated. It's made complicated when surrounded by various lateral pathways and textual criticism and diluted compromised truth. We all see this on this very forum. And I have written often concerning the gospel from an adventist perspective. And despite my testimony,, and the testimony of the church itself on its readily available websites there is still numerous false presumptions regarding what we teach, which means you don't believe us and think we are liars. What I love about Adventism? Their love for Jesus. Their appreciation of His love and care for man, His grace and mercy and faithfulness to sinners.

Something what i love about Adventism. Prophecy, understood historically, makes perfect sense. Having been raised Catholic, the prophecies concerning antichrist, the specific prophecies that describe various beasts and their horns and heads etc once obscure and subject to guesswork and not a little imagination, were an absolute eye opener. Seeing them in such a new light, aligning not only with church history, but also secular history, brought the papacy into a light never before realised, and set me on a journey of discovery that makes me wonder how on earth cannot others see what I see? Again, I've shared such views on this forum, but Protestantism it seems no longer to exist here. And the prophecies all, without exception, link together in one chain of truth that is monumentally encouraging knowing how closely God cares for His people. My assurance of the second coming as being soon, is now absolutely legitimate and with sound reason. No guessing. No claivoyance. No imagining numerous discordant scenarios to fit disparate texts that have no link with one another and little context taken into account. We are at the very end of the last days. And rather than relying on fanciful movies and novels, the bible, correctly understood, forms a firm foundation. That's why, after 30 years, I'm still an adventist. And no-one has offered any better alternative.

 

[amigo de christo]

Beware the tentacles of the well favored harlot . For she has many tentacles , daughters , who do her work .
They have crept within in ord er to merge . but this merger is not the LOVE of GOD she claims it to be .
IT is a merger under the shade of a harlot and her love and her peace which be of anti christ
cannot save or deliver them from the wrath of GOD and of the LAMB .

 

[Nancy]

For @Nancy 's benefit however, I'm only to happy to explain. No-one else need read the following, none of it could possibly be true. Could it?

I mentioned I was in the AOG for several years. Youth pastor, frequent preaching, suburban mission work. Enjoyed my time there in the smallish city I was in. Made some good friends.
We moved to Auckland, and attended suburban a church nearby. Congregation size around 350. The assistant pastor/music leader and I became close friends, and are to this day. However, i don't want to disparage any one individual, because there were many fine genuine Christians in that fellowship. My wife and I attended there for about 3 years. We visited a couple of other churches also, and enjoyed some great Bible study groups.

During my time with the AOG, I adopted the futurist view of prophecy, common to most pentecostal churches of that era, the mid 80s.

For a few different reasons, we became disillusioned with the leadership there. It began to follow the mindset developing in America of the time, which has today grown to full blown "you can be rich like me" if you give more. The focus in the preaching may have tickled some ears, but not mine. It's been a long time, so I don't remember specifics. Just a growing dissatisfaction with stuff.
Nor was I content with the preaching of prophecy. The futurist hermeneutic didn't satisfy my growing hunger for truth. I spoke to several people, and no-one could give me satisfactory answers to my questions. The conclusions made concerning antichrist, wars and rumours, the role of Israel, Russia, Iran and America etc came from disparate texts with no linking mechanism and no apparent historical or current time logic. 1948. Did some mention date setting? Several books had Christ coming before the millennium finished. 1988. "The Late Great Planet Earth" was a book I gave away to many. But I couldn't explain it. Some of the points made seemed to excite people, but there was still no linking chain of reference from one projected scenario to another.
It was at that time my work moved into the bush, miles away from any church and very isolated. Having no fellowship of any serious note, we feel away from the church altogether. I still had faith, and frequently witnessed to friends and neighbours, but becoming more and more doubtful concerning the second coming and its timing. I couldn't answer questions from scripture. I still believed Jesus was coming soon, but I couldn't quite pinpoint why. My previous assurances began to crumble, realising the paucity of real authority in much of what I had been taught.
A few years later, having no church, and now living in rural Waikato in the middle of the North Island, I came to a bitter realisation. My marriage was in trouble, my older kids, who I had dedicated to the Lord and promised to raise them in the faith, were now in the world doing the same things l had been doing when I first came to Jesus 20 years previously. My life, and theirs, was falling apart. I went into a quiet room and wept before the Lord and confessed my unfaithfulness, begging the Lord to heal my marriage and bring my kids home. I told the Lord I needed to start my faith from the beginning. I wanted Truth. I wanted a faith that wouldn't fail me, or Him. I needed to start afresh, relearning the gospel, and all the associated truths whereby we could be saved and assured of God's kingdom. God spoke to me in the depths of my spirit, saying, "seek ye first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added unto you". And that's what I did. After 5 years of study, I learned and relearned scripture.
My wife and I have now been married for 48 years. We have 6 children, and all of them are baptized. We have 14 grandchildren, and one of them, an 18 year old grandson, is being dedicated tomorrow by his church as youth pastor.

The gospel isn't complicated. It's made complicated when surrounded by various lateral pathways and textual criticism and diluted compromised truth. We all see this on this very forum. And I have written often concerning the gospel from an adventist perspective. And despite my testimony,, and the testimony of the church itself on its readily available websites there is still numerous false presumptions regarding what we teach, which means you don't believe us and think we are liars. What I love about Adventism? Their love for Jesus. Their appreciation of His love and care for man, His grace and mercy and faithfulness to sinners.

Something what i love about Adventism. Prophecy, understood historically, makes perfect sense. Having been raised Catholic, the prophecies concerning antichrist, the specific prophecies that describe various beasts and their horns and heads etc once obscure and subject to guesswork and not a little imagination, were an absolute eye opener. Seeing them in such a new light, aligning not only with church history, but also secular history, brought the papacy into a light never before realised, and set me on a journey of discovery that makes me wonder how on earth cannot others see what I see? Again, I've shared such views on this forum, but Protestantism it seems no longer to exist here. And the prophecies all, without exception, link together in one chain of truth that is monumentally encouraging knowing how closely God cares for His people. My assurance of the second coming as being soon, is now absolutely legitimate and with sound reason. No guessing. No claivoyance. No imagining numerous discordant scenarios to fit disparate texts that have no link with one another and little context taken into account. We are at the very end of the last days. And rather than relying on fanciful movies and novels, the bible, correctly understood, forms a firm foundation. That's why, after 30 years, I'm still an adventist. And no-one has offered any better alternative.

Thank you very much @Brakelite for such an in-depth and wonderful sharing of your spiritual travels. And congratulations on your family, God mended what Satan meant for evil, amen!

Recently, I have come upon a slew of information regarding mainline evangelical beliefs and teachings. A dear old friend has been sharing a lot of things with me that were causing me to "kick against the goads" After the last year and a half, I have been fighting against these issues and looking at her as if she were a heretic! The church has been infiltrated for so long and deeply by the teachings of Scofield, Darby and many others following them.

"The Late Great Planet Earth" was a book I gave away to many." <--- Yes!! I read this book in the 70's, after my mother finished it. And I swallowed it all hook, line and sinker. Of course today I have a total turn around as the frustration I felt when speaking with my friend turned into kind of what you have mentioned about only wanting His TRUTH...well that is how was with me recently too. After MUCH reading and researching these things, I believe The Lord did send me truth and it was not what I wanted to believe as I had to REALLY humble myself and ask her forgiveness and thank her for waking me up to so many things. I will not at this time, even broach these things here on the forums as they will not likely be well received. So, until He gives me the words to use I will keep silent.
I no longer fit into ANY denomination and will not continue to try to.

Thanks again for your sharing!
God be with you and yours brother!

 

[Brakelite]

Beware the tentacles of the well favored harlot . For she has many tentacles , daughters , who do her work .
They have crept within in ord er to merge . but this merger is not the LOVE of GOD she claims it to be .
IT is a merger under the shade of a harlot and her love and her peace which be of anti christ
cannot save or deliver them from the wrath of GOD and of the LAMB .

Who are you talking about exactly? Lot of generalities and bird-shot thrown about, hoping some will stick. Who are you aiming at?

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Who are you aiming at?

Those purveyors of false doctrine which sadly includes most churches and preachers these days.

Jesus said many would come in His Name (claiming to be sent and anointed by God) and would deceived many.

 

[amigo de christo]

Who are you talking about exactly? Lot of generalities and bird-shot thrown about, hoping some will stick. Who are you aiming at?

At every denomination that sits in the realm of christendom . from the RCC to all
GET THESE PEOPLE OUT NOW . ya been infilatrated .
ALL have . EVEN YOU said you seen this coming into the SDA yourself .
My goodness , WHY cant we just start over .
One says HE is of baptists , another methodists , another sda .
PARD I AM CHRISTAIN and its time we get everyone into the bible
Whether one has read it five hundred times , GET in it and stay in it .
We are being duped friend . And one more thing , GET THEM HOPES OFF ANY of these politicans
From the liberal left , to the conservative, to even the One called T RUMP ALL MIGHTY by some .
THEY ARE DUPING YOU ALL .
So if anyone here is tied into any form of h oping in any side of govt , GET OUT , GET OUT , GET OUT , GET OUT
and if i had time i would say it TEN TRILLION times more .
WE NEED a serious return TO ONLY , ONLY ONLY ONLY ONLY
again i repeat that ten trillion times , THE BIBLE .
What men write forthe most part has been DUNG . and yet folks such that junk up
NO sir . THE ONLY BOOK , and i have read christain books , that i can vouch for , IS THE BIBLE .
and it darn sure aint THE JW one . my advice would be the KJV .
One says i am of the adventists , anotehr says
TIME TO SAY WE ARE OF JESUS and leave them other names Far behind . GET IN the bible once again .
I AINT the monster brakelite . But know this , MAY IT BE an ice cold day in the lake of fire
LONG before i even dare to cease to warn against this WHORE LED ecumeincal false satanic anti christ love
that has duped so many that number cannot be counted by man .

 

[amigo de christo]

Those purveyors of false doctrine which sadly includes most churches and preachers these days.

Jesus said many would come in His Name (claiming to be sent and anointed by God) and would deceived many.

hence the call , GET OUT from amongst them and never look back . its all tanking faster than did the titanic .
ITS ALL GOING down on the DAY OF THE LORD .

 

[amigo de christo]

Thank you very much @Brakelite for such an in-depth and wonderful sharing of your spiritual travels. And congratulations on your family, God mended what Satan meant for evil, amen!

Recently, I have come upon a slew of information regarding mainline evangelical beliefs and teachings. A dear old friend has been sharing a lot of things with me that were causing me to "kick against the goads" After the last year and a half, I have been fighting against these issues and looking at her as if she were a heretic! The church has been infiltrated for so long and deeply by the teachings of Scofield, Darby and many others following them.

"The Late Great Planet Earth" was a book I gave away to many." <--- Yes!! I read this book in the 70's, after my mother finished it. And I swallowed it all hook, line and sinker. Of course today I have a total turn around as the frustration I felt when speaking with my friend turned into kind of what you have mentioned about only wanting His TRUTH...well that is how was with me recently too. After MUCH reading and researching these things, I believe The Lord did send me truth and it was not what I wanted to believe as I had to REALLY humble myself and ask her forgiveness and thank her for waking me up to so many things. I will not at this time, even broach these things here on the forums as they will not likely be well received. So, until He gives me the words to use I will keep silent.
I no longer fit into ANY denomination and will not continue to try to.

Thanks again for your sharing!
God be with you and yours brother!

Sister i need to let you in on something .
You see the part where you said you have recieved something but you wont release it here
cause you beleive it wont be well recieved .
Every single time i have heard words l ike this it came from someone who had learned something wrong .
My advice is YOU LET us know what you heard . so as all can test it
now maybe it is true , but maybe it aint t rue . Feel free to pm me with this info at least .

 

[Rockerduck]

I am Pentecostal Holiness...

1. I had youth leaders who would plan exciting events for us kids
2. Good Sunday School
3. Nice Sunday morning service
4. Take time to pray for the sick and those in need of prayer
5. Nice Wednesday night family night
6. Nice Saturday night service
7. Wonderful revivals many times in a year

I thought early on that if I dwelt among these folk that we would remain shouting glad here on earth until Gabriel's trumpet called us home.

1. Generations - The evil of a generation
2. Comparisons - People comparing themselves with others to judge their state of being
3. Criticisms - The... What's wrong with the church crowd! Never mind they are just a bad as everyone else!

And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. - Matthew 10:36

After a while we are just as bad as everyone else. I have no qualms against any other denomination. In that we forsook a life in the Spirit for one of the flesh makes us the worse! Say you doctrine is better than mine! Well... No... I am not interested... You can have your funeral home to yourself! I made a video in which I would consider our last good service. And... Hating all of that!

I miss the Congressional worship singing days. All that was needed was a piano and everyone sang and was Joyful afterwards.

 

[amigo de christo]

I miss the Congressional worship singing days. All that was needed was a piano and everyone sang and was Joyful afterwards.

i miss that
and the days wherein leaders where not ashamed of the words in scripture .
This generation acts like the bible is hate speech .
At least the parts that speak against certain sins .
But allow me some parting words .
THEY better be prepared to wail , for they JUDGED GOD , HIS words as though HE WAS TRASH and a hater
and chose satan who by false love led them into great rebellion against GOD , HIS CHRIST and His saints .
I shudder in total terror for them .

 

[Rockerduck]

i miss that
and the days wherein leaders where not ashamed of the words in scripture .
This generation acts like the bible is hate speech .
At least the parts that speak against certain sins .
But allow me some parting words .
THEY better be prepared to wail , for they JUDGED GOD , HIS words as though HE WAS TRASH and a hater
and chose satan who by false love led them into great rebellion against GOD , HIS CHRIST and His saints .
I shudder in total terror for them .

Yes. I remember those tent revivals in parking lots. Just lights and no ac., singing and a good preaching. This younger generation would not go to one.

 

[Triumph1300]

"The Late Great Planet Earth" was a book I gave away to many." <--- Yes!! I read this book in the 70's, after my mother finished it. And I swallowed it all hook, line and sinker. Of course today I have a total turn around as the frustration I felt when speaking with my friend turned into kind of what you have mentioned about only wanting His TRUTH...well that is how was with me recently too.

That book was given to me in 1980.
I was not a Christian at that time.
The book made me go to a FGBMFI meeting one day and later to church.
No matter what some think about Hal Lindsay today, his writings made many to come to the Lord.
Bless you Nancy. :-)

 

[rockytopva]

I miss the Congressional worship singing days. All that was needed was a piano and everyone sang and was Joyful afterwards.

Our old congressional worship days are perhaps 300 years old. I like the story of GC Rankin in that he writes about them in their humble origins and describes the worship and the experiences...

As I sat there that morning listening to the earnest exhortation of the good man my tears ceased, my distress left me, light broke in upon my mind, my heart grew joyous, and before I knew just what I was doing I was going all around shaking hands with everybody, and my confusion and darkness disappeared and a great burden rolled off my spirit. I felt exactly like I did when I was a little boy around my mother's knee when she told of Jesus and God and Heaven. It made my heart thrill then, and the same old experience returned to me in that old country Church that beautiful September morning down in old North Georgia, September, 1866... - Salvation Experienced True Methodist

 

[rockytopva]

Our old congressional worship days are perhaps 300 years old. I like the story of GC Rankin in that he writes about them in their humble origins and describes the worship and the experiences...

As I sat there that morning listening to the earnest exhortation of the good man my tears ceased, my distress left me, light broke in upon my mind, my heart grew joyous, and before I knew just what I was doing I was going all around shaking hands with everybody, and my confusion and darkness disappeared and a great burden rolled off my spirit. I felt exactly like I did when I was a little boy around my mother's knee when she told of Jesus and God and Heaven. It made my heart thrill then, and the same old experience returned to me in that old country Church that beautiful September morning down in old North Georgia, September, 1866... - Salvation Experienced True Methodist

I believe those old revival days George Clark Rankin talked about were from The Center Valley United Methodist Church, Chatsworth, GA, they have built a new building.