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Mungo

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Pray for understanding!! Baptism saves NO ONE!!! We all know people that have been baptized just to please their mother, wife, pastor, friend but have not believed and accepted Jesus as their Lord and Savior but satan has them thinking they are saved because they were baptized but they are on the fast track to hell!!!THINK!

Pray for understanding GISMYS.
Jesus said He who believes and is baptized will be saved (Mk 16:16)
How is that difficult to understand?
THINK and BELIEVE JESUS!

Peter also says that Baptism saves us ...eight persons, were saved through water. Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you (1Pet 3:20:21)
 

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There are nine different types of Baptism in the Bible —— most of them DRY.....the ONLY Baptism that will Count on Judgement Day is this one—-Have you been Baptized into “ The Body Of Christ?” ....you get that the moment that you put your Trust in Jesus to Save you....

There is one baptism that matters - baptism with water as in one Lord, one faith, one baptism, (Eph 4:5)
 

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There is one baptism that matters - baptism with water as in one Lord, one faith, one baptism, (Eph 4:5)
Water will just get you wet and wash the dirt off!!
Romans: Chapter 10 verse 9-10-13
GOD SAYS=
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus,
and shalt believe in your heart that God hath raised him
from the dead, thou shalt be Saved. For with the heart man
believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession
is made unto Salvation. For whosoever shall call upon the
name of the Lord shall be Saved.
 

Mungo

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Water will just get you wet and wash the dirt off!!
Romans: Chapter 10 verse 9-10-13
GOD SAYS=
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus,
and shalt believe in your heart that God hath raised him
from the dead, thou shalt be Saved. For with the heart man
believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession
is made unto Salvation. For whosoever shall call upon the
name of the Lord shall be Saved.
You are denial of Scripture because Scripture clearly states:
He who believes and is baptized will be saved (Mk 16:16)
...eight persons, were saved through water. Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you (1Pet 3:20:21)
 

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Try to understand!! Read in context!!
Mark 16:16 “ He that""" believeth"" and is baptized shall be saved; but ""he that believeth not shall be damned.""" NOT he who is not baptized is damned""!!!
 
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Try to understand!! Read in context!!
Mark 16:16 “ He that""" believeth"" and is baptized shall be saved; but ""he that believeth not shall be damned.""" NOT he who is not baptized is damned""!!!

And somehow that makes the first part "He who believes and is baptized will be saved" null and void?
"So, for the sake of your tradition, you have made void the word of God"(Mk 15:6)

The second part leaves open as to what happens if you believe but do not get baptised.
But remember that disobedience = disbelief.
When you come before the judgement seat are you going to say:-
Yes I was told I should be baptised because you commanded baptism - but "I did it my way".
In my infallible opinion I didn't need to be baptised even though you said "He who believes and is baptized will be saved" and Peter wrote eight persons, were saved through water. Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you.

Good luck with that.
 

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To have understanding pray and ask God for some!! Believe the entire verse not just parts and know what Bible teaching as a whole teaches otherwise you fall into traps of satan as cults do!
Try to understand!! Read in context!!
Mark 16:16 “ He that""" believeth"" and is baptized shall be saved; but ""he that believeth not shall be damned. This verse says""" he who believes NOT is damned NOT he who is not baptized is damned""!!!
 
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To have understanding pray and ask God for some!! Believe the entire verse not just parts and know what Bible teaching as a whole teaches otherwise you fall into traps of satan as cults do!
Try to understand!! Read in context!!
Mark 16:16 “ He that""" believeth"" and is baptized shall be saved; but ""he that believeth not shall be damned. This verse says""" he who believes NOT is damned NOT he who is not baptized is damned""!!!

Absolutely we have to take the Bible teaching as a whole.
So why do you ignore the clear Scriptural teaching.
Jesus said: He who believes and is baptized will be saved (Mk 16:16)
Jesus also said “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God." John 3:5
Peter wrote: ...eight persons, were saved through water. Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you (1Pet 3:20:21)
Paul wrote: he saved us, ......... by the washing of regeneration and renewal in the Holy Spirit (Titus 3:5)

Here are some more:
Now when they heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and to the other apostles, “Brothers, what should we do?” Peter said to them, “Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ so that your sins may be forgiven; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. (Acts 2:37-38).
For godly grief produces a repentance that leads to salvation (2Cor 7:10)
And he said to him, “Why do you ask me about what is good? There is only one who is good. If you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments.” (Mt 19:17)

Believe Scripture GISMYS

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God gave us a brain and expects us to use it!! ""God rejecting unbelievers"" that get baptized are ""NOT saved"" baptism does not save anyone!!!
 
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God gave us a brain and expects us to use it!! ""God rejecting unbelievers"" that get baptized are ""NOT saved"" baptism does not save anyone!!!

You are in denial of Scripture GISMYS
Jesus said: He who believes and is baptized will be saved (Mk 16:16)
Jesus also said “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God." John 3:5
Peter wrote: ...eight persons, were saved through water. Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you (1Pet 3:20:21)
Paul wrote: he saved us, ......... by the washing of regeneration and renewal in the Holy Spirit (Titus 3:5)

Believe the Scriptures.
 

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Think!! Who would say that God rejecting unbelievers that are baptized just to please their mother, sister, girlfriend wife are saved?? Baptism saves NO one!!
 
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Think!! Who would say that God rejecting unbelievers that are baptized just to please their mother, sister, girlfriend wife are saved?? Baptism saves NO one!!

You are in denial of Scripture GISMYS
Jesus said: He who believes and is baptized will be saved (Mk 16:16)
Jesus also said “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God." John 3:5
Peter wrote: ...eight persons, were saved through water. Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you (1Pet 3:20:21)
Paul wrote: he saved us, ......... by the washing of regeneration and renewal in the Holy Spirit (Titus 3:5)
 

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Why no answer???
Think!! Who would say that God rejecting unbelievers that are baptized just to please their mother, sister, girlfriend wife are saved?? Baptism saves NO one!!
 

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Why no answer???
Think!! Who would say that God rejecting unbelievers that are baptized just to please their mother, sister, girlfriend wife are saved?? Baptism saves NO one!!

GISMYS
You say Baptism saves no-one. But you are disagreeing with Scripture
Jesus said He who believes and is baptized will be saved (Mk 16:16)
Peter wrote: ...eight persons, were saved through water. Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you (1Pet 3:20:21)
Jesus also said “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God." John 3:5
Paul wrote: he saved us, ......... by the washing of regeneration and renewal in the Holy Spirit (Titus 3:5)
All clearly say that baptism saves us

Also Luke wrote:
Those who accepted his message were baptized, and about three thousand persons were added that day. ……. And every day the Lord added to their number those who were being saved. (Acts 2:41….47)
And
Repent and be baptised, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. (Acts 2:38)
And
Now, why delay? Get up and have yourself baptised and your sins washed away, calling upon his name. (Acts 22:16).

Paul wrote:
Or are you unaware that we who were baptised into Christ Jesus were baptised into his death? We were indeed buried with him through baptism into death, so that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might live in newness of life. For if we have grown into union with him through a death like his, we shall also be united with him in the resurrection.
(Rom 6:3-4)
And
But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God. (1Cor 6:11)
And
all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. (Gal 3:27).

Jesus saves us through baptism.

Believe the Scriptures GISMYS
 

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It is believing and accepting Jesus as your savior that saves you== baptism is what you do AFTER you are saved!! THINK!

That's not what Jesus said.
Jesus didn't say he who believes will be saved and then get baptised.
Jesus said He who believes and is baptized will be saved. That's belief + baptism = salvation.

Peter wrote: ...eight persons, were saved through water. Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you.
Get that? Not "get baptised after being saved" but "Baptism saves you now".
 

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OOPS!!! Did God forget to say baptism saves???

Romans: Chapter 10 verse 9-10-13
GOD SAYS=
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus,
and shalt believe in your heart that God hath raised him
from the dead, thou shalt be Saved. For with the heart man
believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession
is made unto Salvation. For whosoever shall call upon the
name of the Lord shall be Saved.
 
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How to be saved (born again) and join the family of God!!!

Romans: Chapter 10 verse 9-10-13
GOD SAYS=
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus,
and shalt believe in your heart that God hath raised him
from the dead, thou shalt be Saved. For with the heart man
believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession
is made unto Salvation. For whosoever shall call upon the
name of the Lord shall be Saved.
What do we do with:
Mark 16:16?
Do we have to be baptized in order to be saved?
 

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OOPS!!! Did God forget to say baptism saves???

Romans: Chapter 10 verse 9-10-13
GOD SAYS=
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus,
and shalt believe in your heart that God hath raised him
from the dead, thou shalt be Saved. For with the heart man
believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession
is made unto Salvation. For whosoever shall call upon the
name of the Lord shall be Saved.
God did not forget to say baptism saves. He talks about baptism about 50 times in the NT. If you have a hard time with figuring out that baptism is important to your salvation, read every scripture that has baptism in it and God will let you know it is important for your salvation. Oh, and in Mark 16:16 he doesn't mince words, he come right out and says it. Straight forward, no confusion, no thinking about it. Just straight out of the mouth of God, those that believe and are baptized will be saved. There are other things that God says we must do to be saved in other scriptures,like your scripture Romans 10:9-10 and 13, but baptism is an important part of the saving process.