-
Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.
You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.
We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!
Waiting on him
Well-Known Member
Waiting on him
Well-Known Member
"That He might deliver us from this present evil world. Deliver is the translation of exaireo (¦îáéñåï) which means to pluck out, to draw out, to rescue, to deliver. The word strikes the keynote of the letter. The gospel is a rescue, an emanicipation from a state of bondage. The word here denotes, not a removal from, but a rescue from the power of the ethical characteristics of the present age. World is from aionos (áÆïíïò) which Trench defines as follows: “All that floating mass of thoughts, opinions, maxims, speculations, hopes, impulses, aims, aspirations, at any time current in the world, which it may be impossible to seize and accurately define, but which constitute a most real and effective power, being the moral or immoral atmosphere which at every moment of our lives we inhale, again inevitably to exhale.” It is that particular phase of human society, the one which our Lord found existing when He came the first time, which He will still find existing when He comes the second time, and which will be displaced by a new order of things in the Millennium. The word present is used twice elsewhere where it is applied to things existing, by way of contrast to things future (Rom. 8:38; I Cor. 3:22).
The word evil is not from kakos (êáêïò) here but poneros (ðïíåñïò). In the latter word, the positive activity of evil comes out far more decidedly than in the former. The kakos (êáêïò) man may be content to perish in his own corruption, but the poneros (ðïíåñïò) man is not content unless he is corrupting others as well, and drawing them into the same destruction with himself. Satan is not called the kakos (êáêïò) one but the poneros (ðïíåñïò) one. This present age is described by Paul as poneros (ðïíåñïò). The English word which best translate this Greek word is pernicious.
Webster says, “That is pernicious which works mischief or destruction.” This present age therefore is not content to perish in its own corruption, but seeks to drag all men with it down to its own inevitable destruction. "
(excerpt from study of Galatians)
=================================================
ICB
“But you who left the Lord will be punished. You forgot about my holy mountain. You worship the false god Luck. You hold religious feasts for the false god Fate.
The word evil is not from kakos (êáêïò) here but poneros (ðïíåñïò). In the latter word, the positive activity of evil comes out far more decidedly than in the former. The kakos (êáêïò) man may be content to perish in his own corruption, but the poneros (ðïíåñïò) man is not content unless he is corrupting others as well, and drawing them into the same destruction with himself. Satan is not called the kakos (êáêïò) one but the poneros (ðïíåñïò) one. This present age is described by Paul as poneros (ðïíåñïò). The English word which best translate this Greek word is pernicious.
Webster says, “That is pernicious which works mischief or destruction.” This present age therefore is not content to perish in its own corruption, but seeks to drag all men with it down to its own inevitable destruction. "
(excerpt from study of Galatians)
=================================================
ICB
“But you who left the Lord will be punished. You forgot about my holy mountain. You worship the false god Luck. You hold religious feasts for the false god Fate.
A legalist is a person who has kicked Jesus off the Nails, and hung themselves up on the Cross.
They are trying to save themselves by trying to keep themselves saved.
They have their list of things they BELIEVE they must do and complete that is a never ending list of daily and lifelong self effort.
They believe in their LIST, . They have faith in their LIST.
They do NOT have faith in Christ to keep them saved. They have faith in themselves to keep a list of self effort works..
"self saving". = Grace denying = Cross rejection.
= Heresy.
= Galatians 1:8
= Legalism
Preacher4Truth
Well-Known Member
Not necessarily that way,
but as written , everyone is born dead in trespasses and sin. All are under the prince of the power of the air, the devil, until (and if) redeemed.
The effect of being Born again, is to be "translated from Darkness to Light".
Jesus is the Light of the World and the born again are Children of the Light.
So, the end result is a believer has been redeemed from their sin, born again into the Spirt of God, and so, rescued from this "world".
The world, as the NT teaches this word, is not the spinning globe. or the "earth".
Its the Devil's rule.. and Salvation is eternal deliverance from the Devil as your Spiritual Father.
You will recall that Jesus said. "Ye are of YOUR FATHER, the Devil". Well that is not just the religious leaders in Christ's day.
That is the spiritual fact of all who are not "Born again"..
The adamic nature, the fallen nature, is the DEVIL"S Nature.
So, if you are not born again, you have the "other" Father, The DEVIL, as your spiritual Father.
Once you become Born again, you are now the SON of Father GOD..... = You have a NEW Father.
Being born again, is a birth OUT OF Satan's spiritual dominion, (The World).... and into GOD's Family and Spiritual Dominion. (Kingdom of God).
Waiting on him
Well-Known Member
This in my opinion is what happens when men speak from what is written on stones or animal skins. ???? Now is what has been written in the heart,
Every person born, including your kids.
If you want them or yourself to have. : "Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the LAW"... then you have to be born gain.
Once you are born again, "you are no longer UNDER THE LAW......>you are under GRACE".
Christ came to ... "redeem you FROM the CURSE....>OF.....>THE.....LAW".
Good - as written in Romans 2, the ones who do what Torah says are justified , because they are showing that God has written Torah on their hearts, even though they do not have Torah , they may not have a copy in person of the Bible at all, nor ever have read the Bible.
Waiting on him
Well-Known Member
Romans 2:14-15 KJV
For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: [15] Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another
For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: [15] Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another
What an odd thing to say. . . .
Matthew 10:38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.
Waiting on him
Well-Known Member
So Abraham and Noah and everyone else born before the Mosaic Law was given was still under it? Think of what you're saying.
Similar threads
