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Do a search for “woe” in the New Testament.[Jesus] loved but didn't condemn.
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Do a search for “woe” in the New Testament.[Jesus] loved but didn't condemn.
Am I required to support my child or grandchild’s decision to join MBLA and embrace their pedophilia?Oh right, so IF it happened would you turn your back on them and reject them? Sounds like a good Christian attitude. We may not agree with the choices our non-Christian family make but we need to keep loving them whatever their choices.
Oh praise be to the Lord.When writing to timothy paul made something very clear .
Do not be a partaker of other mens sins , keep thyself pure .
We must not partake in their sin by calling them by their identity gender . We must
not be a partaker in the sin that has driven them into total reprobation .
If the Bible says do it, do it.Folks do as folks do . But the question was , HOW would i HANDLE the situation .
And i wont cave in to a lie that would dishonor GOD as well as harm the child . So , yeah any child , even if it aint my own
that asks me to call them the sex they were not born , Yeah , i aint doing it .
By warning them . Love corrects it warns .But we MUST love them. So how do you reconcile that?
Sorry amigo but I think you're wrong about this.By warning them . Love corrects it warns .
There used to be a phrase in common Christian use which said, 'Hate the sin but love the sinner.' Why do so many people find it hard to love the sinner?
So from your reaction I take it that you would reject your own children and grandchildren if they made life decisions you don't agree with. But the thing is unless they are Christians they are yet sinners and how will they know the love of God if their own father and grandfather rejects them?
I would feel offended at first. But then this might be an opportunity to grow and learn more about transgender, in particular this boy who wants to becomes girl.This is not a case that's happening in my family.
I found this on the internet, grand parents asking advice:
A grandson is being supported by his parents to “transition” to a girl. They say that if we don’t call him by his new female name, they’ll cut us out of their lives. We don’t know where this is coming from or what to do. How do we show them love without abandoning our Christian values?
How would you handle this situation?
This is not a case that's happening in my family.
I found this on the internet, grand parents asking advice:
A grandson is being supported by his parents to “transition” to a girl. They say that if we don’t call him by his new female name, they’ll cut us out of their lives. We don’t know where this is coming from or what to do. How do we show them love without abandoning our Christian values?
How would you handle this situation?
Sorry amigo but I think you're wrong about this.
My family are not Christians (yet) and until they are they don't see things the same way I do. They know my beliefs and I have explained to them about my Christianity and they don't want to know so we mostly avoid talking about it.
Now say, if I 'warned' them about certain other issues that aren't acceptable to me as a Christian they would get their high horse and probably fall out with me so then I would have no influence whatever with them.
Now as non-Christians they have the free choice to live in whatever way they choose and I choose to carry on loving them all even though I don't like their choices. Loving is good. I feel pretty sure in my heart that Jesus wouldn't have rejected any of his family.
There used to be a phrase in common Christian use which said, 'Hate the sin but love the sinner.' Why do so many people find it hard to love the sinner?
Yes I agree with what you say Addy, we can never know how a person feels inside their head and like Helen's friend said, better that they transgender than commit suicide because they are so unhappy. I don't understand it and to me it's sad that so many these days want to do it.Although you think we had a difference in opinion yesterday... I think we absolutely agree on this issue... I am perhaps a bit more set in my ways regarding ultimatums...but when push comes to shove... I KNOW how to LOVE the broken and hurting.
Sadly... many Christians are more comfortable with waving fingers of judgement.
Yes I agree with what you say Addy, we can never know how a person feels inside their head and like Helen's friend said, better that they transgender than commit suicide because they are so unhappy. I don't understand it and to me it's sad that so many these days want to do it.
I think what I have learned in all of this experience with my landlord is that my position on the issue of all matters regarding the LGTBQ agenda has not changed one bit... I am still as much against any behaviour that sits outside the confines of the bible.
I still believe there is only male and female... I still believe God made man for woman... and that anyone who is NOT married is called to refrain from sexual activities. I am a single woman... I am called to be chaste and celibate... I believe this is true and I live by this. I will be accountable for my own actions... I do not think God will ask me if I corrected... shamed or shunned those who live in sexual sins. That is not my job.
What has changed is that I am better able to face this issue head on... NO sinner is exempt from being loved and respected. Often times we think we need to shame and shun... so many Christians have this NEED to wash the blood from their hands.. as though loudly proclaiming... that person is a SINNER is going to change anything... but it seems to help the conscience of many.
I soooooooo remember that saying... and I guess I am one of those who believe that. I have spent much time working with street people... they are not pretty or clean in the least... but oh what an honour to approach them and have them open up to you and begin to trust you. I come from a family that is all about do's and don'ts... and pointing fingers of judgement... I am the black sheep of my Christian family. LOLI don't know if tolerance is the right word but I have to say have become more tolerant over the years. Probably down to greater maturity both in age and as a Christian. There used to be a saying, 'If we catch them God will clean them' because like you said it's not our job.