I believe that gay people have as much of a "choice" to be gay as you do to not sin

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ScottA

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While most would like to pretend otherwise it was barely a generation ago when the vast majority of Christians felt that black people acting as the social equals of whites was no different from murder because such was against the word of God. I think there is still a huge number who believe this its just become socially unacceptable to say it out loud.


In living memory left-handed childen were physically and emotionally abused for "choosing" to be left handed. The parallels are remarkable.
Spoken as one who might also be convinced that men evolve. That is not the case. The fact that former generations were wrong, does not change the fact of what is right according to God.
 

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This statement has no basis in reality.
You may wish to crack open a history book.
Murder in New Orleans: He Creation of Jim Crow by Jeff Adler
Citizen Brown by Colin Gordin
Just Pursuit, by Laura Coates
are all well written and well researched books

And, for the record, it was Christians that led the way in the battle against slavery.
and it was also Christians that were the slavers and slave owners.
 

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Spoken as one who might also be convinced that men evolve. That is not the case. The fact that former generations were wrong, does not change the fact of what is right according to God.
Yes, former generations were wrong, why do you assume that you could not also be wrong?
 

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How?


I find it difficult to believe that anyone would choose to be something that would potentially alienate one from their families, subject them to potential emotional and physical abuse from their families, lead to a real danger of discrimination and violence by society.
Because you can't believe.... Can you believe God struck people dead because they are evil? Can you believe that people kill people because they think it is exciting? Can you believe people will destroy property and everything around them because they are angry? Can you believe that a kid shot his father in the head because he found out he was adopted? Can you believe that people will use drugs knowing that there is chance of immediate death?

"I can't believe".... that is not relevant.
 
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the shooter yesterday in TN was a male but because of his mental illness he has hated himself and that hate spread to hate others and kill 6 people who most likely didn't even know who he was. But because he could not accept himself because he was believing lies, he destroyed the lives of so many that were living in the light. He is now in hell.

Most of the recent school shooters were lost in the sexual immortality. God gave them over to their desires and will face His wrath and worthy of death. Romans 1:18-32
 
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Yes, former generations were wrong, why do you assume that you could not also be wrong?
Why do you assume that I "assume." I do not, but know from God.
 

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Because you can't believe.... Can you believe God struck people dead because they are evil? Can you believe that people kill people because they think it is exciting? Can you believe people will destroy property and everything around them because they are angry? Can you believe that a kid shot his father in the head because he found out he was adopted? Can you believe that people will use drugs knowing that there is chance of immediate death?

"I can't believe".... that is not relevant.
kind of sidestepped what I was posting there
 

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Most of the recent school shooters were lost in the sexual immortality. God gave them over to their desires and will face His wrath and worthy of death. Romans 1:18-32

She was lost but she remains a child of God and he will fix her, although it may require a stint in the LOF.
 

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which is exactly what the past generations you have labeled as wrong said.
Categorically denouncing all revelation from God with all that is false, is to deny God. That too has been the stance of many of past generations. Nonetheless, the word from God is not stopped, nor does it return void.
 

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the shooter yesterday in TN was a male but because of his mental illness he has hated himself and that hate spread to hate others and kill 6 people who most likely didn't even know who he was. But because he could not accept himself because he was believing lies, he destroyed the lives of so many that were living in the light. He is now in hell.

Most of the recent school shooters were lost in the sexual immortality. God gave them over to their desires and will face His wrath and worthy of death. Romans 1:18-32
the news reports were back and forth whether to call this a woman or man. seriously? Either born with male or female parts. They feed into exactly why this person was so confused on who they were... so whether a man or woman, this person was lost in the lies and deception.
 

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Categorically denouncing all revelation from God with all that is false, is to deny God. That too has been the stance of many of past generations. Nonetheless, the word from God is not stopped, nor does it return void.
No one here is categorically denouncing all revelations or saying anything at about any revelation.

What you have demonstrated is that human interoperations of such revelations vary over time and what used to be correct is now considered wrong
 

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the news reports were back and forth whether to call this a woman or man. seriously? Either born with male or female parts. They feed into exactly why this person was so confused on who they were... so whether a man or woman, this person was lost in the lies and deception.
If someone is transgendered then wouldn't pretending that one was not be engaging in lies and deception?
 
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