I do not relate to Christ as my King

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Status
Not open for further replies.

Verily

Well-Known Member
Nov 9, 2024
1,638
1,029
113
Sion the heavenly city
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
OK, I thought you were saying my wife is supposed to boss me around...
Being a King does not mean you have to be bossy lol

Mat 21:5 Tell ye the daughter of Sion, Behold, thy King cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass, and a colt the foal of an ass.

Psalm 18:35 Thou hast also given me the shield of thy salvation: and thy right hand hath holden me up, and thy gentleness hath made me great.


2 Cr 10:1 Now I Paul myself beseech you by the meekness and gentleness of Christ, who in presence am base among you, but being absent am bold toward you:

This King is meek and gentle.
 

BarneyFife

Well-Known Member
Dec 19, 2019
9,730
6,900
113
Central PA
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
I am a Gentile Christian. I do not relate to Jesus as my King but my Spouse. Jesus is the King of Israel. So, Jesus is a King, but not my King. I relate to Jesus as my Savior, Spouse, and Son of God (God's Son). The Kingship of Christ is not the case with Gentile Christians/Spouses.

Why do you think it's important to emphasize the kingship of Christ being only for those of the genetic lineage of Jacob?

:)
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: MA2444

MA2444

Well-Known Member
Jan 9, 2024
3,839
1,986
113
62
Columbus Ohio
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
I am a Gentile Christian. I do not relate to Jesus as my King but my Spouse. Jesus is the King of Israel. So, Jesus is a King, but not my King. I relate to Jesus as my Savior, Spouse, and Son of God (God's Son). The Kingship of Christ is not the case with Gentile Christians/Spouses.

Don't smoke that stuff so early in the day! Lol.

A good case can be made from scripture that He has made us Kings and Priests. I'm sure you've read those before. And so if Jesus is the King of kings and Lord of lords, then how is He not your King?
 

KUWN

Active Member
Sep 13, 2024
639
207
43
69
Southeast
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Why do you think it's important to emphasize the kingship of Christ being only for those of the lineage of Jacob?

:)
I am a dispensationalist. We never merge the Church and the nation of Israel. They are 2 separate entities. The Tribulation is the final 7 years of the Jewish dispensation.
 
  • Sad
Reactions: amigo de christo

Verily

Well-Known Member
Nov 9, 2024
1,638
1,029
113
Sion the heavenly city
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Don't smoke that stuff so early in the day! Lol.

A good case can be made from scripture that He has made us Kings and Priests. I'm sure you've read those before. And so if Jesus is the King of kings and Lord of lords, then how is He not your King?
Not only that, but he is called a priest after the order of Melchisedec. And his name by interpretation is King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace

And we know that Christ our peace, even as he is made unto us righteousness of God. Just as the Kingdom of God, righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit.
 
  • Like
Reactions: MA2444

KUWN

Active Member
Sep 13, 2024
639
207
43
69
Southeast
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Sure thing

Zechariah 9:9 (no reference to the Church in the Old Testament) - Rejoice greatly, O Daughter of Zion! Shout in triumph, O Daughter of Jerusalem! (Israel)
See, your King comes to you, righteous and victorious, humble and riding on a donkey, on a colt, the foal of a donkey.

Matthew 21:1-5 Now when they drew near Jerusalem, and came to Bethphage, at the Mount of Olives, then Jesus sent two disciples,
saying to them, “Go into the village opposite you, and immediately you will find a donkey tied, and a colt with her. Loose them and bring them to Me. 3And if anyone says anything to you, you shall say, ‘The Lord has need of them,’ and immediately he will send them.”

4All this was done that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet (prophecy related to Israel, I can tell you don't understand dispensationalism), saying:

5“Tell the daughter of Zion (Israel),
‘Behold, your King is coming to you,
Lowly, and sitting on a donkey,
A colt, the foal of a donkey.’ ”
(this is a prophecy for Israel)

Revelation 19:11-16
Now I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse. And He who sat on him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and makes war. 12His eyes were like a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns. He [e]had a name written that no one knew except Himself. 13He was clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God. 14And the armies in heaven, clothed in [f]fine linen, white and clean, followed Him on white horses. 15Now out of His mouth goes a [g]sharp sword, that with it He should strike the nations. And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron. He Himself treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 16And He has on His robe and on His thigh a name written:
KING OF KINGS (true, of all the Kings in this world, Christ is the preeminent one, Remember, I said Jesus was a King, just not to the Church)
AND
LORD OF LORDS.
 

ElectedbyHim

Member
Dec 6, 2024
240
86
28
Ohio
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
I am a Gentile Christian. I do not relate to Jesus as my King but my Spouse. Jesus is the King of Israel. So, Jesus is a King, but not my King. I relate to Jesus as my Savior, Spouse, and Son of God (God's Son). The Kingship of Christ is not the case with Gentile Christians/Spouses.
Do you believe that Jesus Christ is God come in the flesh?
 

KUWN

Active Member
Sep 13, 2024
639
207
43
69
Southeast
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Do you believe that Jesus Christ is God come in the flesh?
I could tell you yes or no, but that would be of no use. There is more to this question than you reveal. Settle the issue once and for all in the book titled, Putting Jesus in his place. I say this because the answer to your question has no bearing on the subject of my post.
 

David in NJ

Well-Known Member
Jul 20, 2021
11,837
6,238
113
49
Denville
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
5“Tell the daughter of Zion (Israel),
‘Behold, your King is coming to you,
Lowly, and sitting on a donkey,
A colt, the foal of a donkey.’ ”
(this is a prophecy for Israel)

#1 - God promised The Savior for ALL mankind/every nation would be born of a woman = Genesis chapter 3

#2 - God promised that the Savior would come from the lineage of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob = Genesis

3# - God sent His SON, born of a virgin(Mary), who would SAVE Israel from their sins. = Isaiah chapters 7 and 9

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
17For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.

And this Gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.




FYI - run from 'dispensation theology' as it comes from men and not from God even though they quote scripture


BELIEVE every word that God has spoken to us that we may know our FATHER thru the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ
 

KUWN

Active Member
Sep 13, 2024
639
207
43
69
Southeast
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Don't smoke that stuff so early in the day! Lol.

A good case can be made from scripture that He has made us Kings and Priests. I'm sure you've read those before. And so if Jesus is the King of kings and Lord of lords, then how is He not your King?
he is the King of Israel and other nations, but he is not King to his Bride. That's all I wanted to say.
 
  • Like
Reactions: MA2444

ElectedbyHim

Member
Dec 6, 2024
240
86
28
Ohio
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
I could tell you yes or no, but that would be of no use. There is more to this question than you reveal. Settle the issue once and for all in the book titled, Putting Jesus in his place. I say this because the answer to your question has no bearing on the subject of my post.
I could tell you yes or no, but that would be of no use.
95% of the time when I ask someione if they believe Jesus Christ is God come in the flesh, I get an answer very similair to yours.
Putting Jesus in his place
Well that says volumes.

Grace and peace to you.
 
  • Like
Reactions: David in NJ

Verily

Well-Known Member
Nov 9, 2024
1,638
1,029
113
Sion the heavenly city
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
5“Tell the daughter of Zion (Israel),
‘Behold, your King is coming to you,
Lowly, and sitting on a donkey,
A colt, the foal of a donkey.’ ”
(this is a prophecy for Israel)

#1 - God promised The Savior for ALL mankind/every nation would be born of a woman = Genesis chapter 3

#2 - God promised that the Savior would come from the lineage of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob = Genesis

3# - God sent His SON, born of a virgin(Mary), who would SAVE Israel from their sins. = Isaiah chapters 7 and 9

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
17For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.

And this Gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.




FYI - run from 'dispensation theology' as it comes from men and not from God even though they quote scripture


BELIEVE every word that God has spoken to us that we may know our FATHER thru the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ
Here are some others to that

Matthew 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

He came to his own

Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

But other sheep he has that are not of that fold

John 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

1John 2:22 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

Romans 15:10 And again he saith, Rejoice, ye Gentiles, with his people .

Ephes 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.

Ephes 2:17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.

Ephes 2:18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.

Romans 9:24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

Romans 3:29 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also

Romans 15:10 And again he saith, Rejoice, ye Gentiles, with his people .
 
Status
Not open for further replies.