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theefaith

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1 Tim 3:15

and the limit on this forum is 10000 not 1000
I know Protestantism is dumbed down minimal absolute least possible faith

but God is the author of all good and the abundant life
 

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None of that sustains what I observed about indulgences nor parts of dead people being deemed sacred .

dead people? The saints in Christ?

John 11:25
Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
 

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In studying the Genesis account in Hebrew a small but significant detail is revealed.....the word “created” means to bring something into existence, such as the “creation” of the heavens and the earth, but another word comes into play after that when God says “let us “make” man in our image.
That word ("make") in Hebrew means 'to fabricate or mold to a shape'.....so the difference between “creating” and “making” is significant because the Son is not the Creator...he is the “maker” of all things using the raw materials that the Creator brought into existence by his immense power.
Erroneous.

Jesus made every single thing that was made, without exception, so your spin won’t wash.

Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

Col 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

oh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

elect him literally means Gods, scholars universally recognize it as a plural name for God, and tge plural name for God let US, make man in OUR image - and that’s not a royal WE either, mortal kings copied Genesis, God wasn’t using a term that would be used by men for themselves - that spin used to deny who Jesus is, puts the cart before the horse.

Isaiah says Jesus is the mighty God and everlasting father, are you going to believe the bible or the doctrine of Arians?

Either Jesus is divinity, or God broke His command that only He is to be worshipped when He commanded the angels to worship Jesus.
 

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Erroneous.

Jesus made every single thing that was made, without exception, so your spin won’t wash.

Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

Col 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

oh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

elect him literally means Gods, scholars universally recognize it as a plural name for God, and tge plural name for God let US, make man in OUR image - and that’s not a royal WE either, mortal kings copied Genesis, God wasn’t using a term that would be used by men for themselves - that spin used to deny who Jesus is, puts the cart before the horse.

Isaiah says Jesus is the mighty God and everlasting father, are you going to believe the bible or the doctrine of Arians?

Either Jesus is divinity, or God broke His command that only He is to be worshipped when He commanded the angels to worship Jesus.

Matt 2:11 And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense and myrrh.
 

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Christ and his holy church are one acts 9:4

to attack the church is to attack Christ

Get over yourself! Even in Christ's time, there was a denomination healing people in his name but not part of those who walked with him. Then Paul came along and established many churches. Since then 1,000's have done the same thing, led by the Holy Spirit - but not that God forsaken spiritually dead cult you belong to.
 

theefaith

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Get over yourself! Even in Christ's time, there was a denomination healing people in his name but not part of those who walked with him. Then Paul came along and established many churches. Since then 1,000's have done the same thing, led by the Holy Spirit - but not that God forsaken spiritually dead cult you belong to.

that somehow gives you a right to start you’re own church? Only Christ has authority found the church Matt 16:18-19
 

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dead people? The saints in Christ?

John 11:25
Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
RIGHT. Nothing about keeping dead people parts and calling them holy relics or thinking their imbued with some kind of divine power.
 

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All these folks insisting Jesus was not God.
You have to willfully ignore verses there not Jesus tells us he is God, but the chapter narrative informa Jesus was God.
From yhe to name the angel told Mary to give the coming child, to the word in the beginning being God who came to earth and lived among us. And that was Jesus.
And that means Jesus was God when the word was God and lived among us.

I don't think anyone who denies Jesus was God is to be taken seriously.
When their argument contradicts God's words they aren't genuinely discussing God's words. And they sure don't respect God's words or they wouldn't ignore them.