I have my doubts that Catholicism is Christianity

[Searcher]

Then instead of 1.2 billion Catholics, there would be less than 50,000,000.

Even Poppe Francis did not believe all Catholic doctrine.

I guess the reformers didnt believe it all either. Many of them were catholic priests.

 

[Lizbeth]

Well my Aunt who is Catholic is the one who led me to the Lord with the gospel. I was part of a local Catholic Charismatic prayer communityh8 where we had over 2000 saved catholics.

The RCC is loaded with false doctrines, but the gospel is also found in the midst of the garbage and people do get saved.

Did you remain in Catholicism once you realized the truth about that institution? I was saved in a cessationist church and even left that soon after realizing they didn't believe God still speaks to people or does miracles today. Way back in high school (Catholic) I attended a charismatic "Altreya" weekend where they tried to convert by emotions with no clear preaching of the gospel. Salvation and being born again is a real thing done by the Holy Spirit, not by emotional manipulation, as I thankfully found out later.

 

[Dash RipRock]

But Scripture teaches heed traditions as taught by the apsotles

That's funny that the apostle never once taught anybody to pray to mary, or to pray the roasary or anything about pergatory of that there is a pope.

Ya'll just making stuff up as you go along and it's all stuff the Apostles never taught because ya'll followed fake apostles who were being led by the devil. That's the whole problem right there

I know a few catholics. I dont know any that believe everything the RCC teaches

If they pray to mary, pray the rosary or believe in pergatory among other RCC doctrines then they are false brethren

 

[Dash RipRock]

I guess the reformers didnt believe it all either. Many of them were catholic priests.

All false teachers who departed from God's Word. Sad.

 

[nedsk]

Did you remain in Catholicism once you realized the truth about that institution? I was saved in a cessationist church and even left that soon after realizing they didn't believe God still speaks to people or does miracles today. Way back in high school (Catholic) I attended a charismatic "Altreya" weekend where they tried to convert by emotions with no clear preaching of the gospel. Salvation and being born again is a real thing done by the Holy Spirit, not by emotional manipulation, as I thankfully found out later.

I notice Protestants cull the weakest of the Catholic herd while the strongest protestants are the converts to the truth of Catholicism

That's funny that the apostle never once taught anybody to pray to mary, or to pray the roasary or anything about pergatory of that there is a pope.

Ya'll just making stuff up as you go along and it's all stuff the Apostles never taught because ya'll followed fake apostles who were being led by the devil. That's the whole problem right there



If they pray to mary, pray the rosary or believe in pergatory among other RCC doctrines then they are false brethren

Oh course we did..lol

All false teachers who departed from God's Word. Sad.

Yes Luther is a.sad character

 

[Dash RipRock]

Yes Luther is a.sad character

He is a sad guy now where he ended up.

All he had to do is go back to the scriptures rather than following augustine.

Both calvin and luther were big fans of the writings of augustine as are the catholics.

That augustine guy was one of satan's most productive servants!

 

[DJT_47]

Well in all honestly you believe in sola scriptura and osas so....what's that splinter and plank thing?

I believe in the bible only. Osas not. Never said or inferred I did.

 

[Triumph1300]

He is a sad guy now where he ended up.

Luther's translation of the bible into German made it more accessible to people and had a great impact on German culture.
The people that were able to read, finally were able to read the bible in their own language.

What could possible be wrong with t h a t?

 

[Origen]

You are disingenuous. You hide from questions.

You asked me if Jesus's Mother, Mary, would tell people to serve Her, but without specifying in what way(s), so I asked you to be more specific, because I'm not a mind reader.

Soo, can you be more specific in your question, and describe in what way(s) Mary would tell people to serve Her? Like...with food?

 

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[NotTheRock]

Soo, can you be more specific in your question, and describe in what way(s) Mary would tell people to serve Her? Like...with food?

I certainly can, but you should research that question yourself as I, an ex-Catholic, did.

 

[Origen]

I certainly can [...]

Good. So, to recap, you asked me, "Do you believe that Mary would tell people to serve her?", but you didn't specify in what way(s). If you still want me to answer your question, then be more specific.

 

[Lizbeth]

Agreed. But also I know a few catholics. I dont know any that believe everything the RCC teaches. One in particlar went through catholic school and hasnt been to mass in years. Since the RCC considers it a sin to miss mass I guess she would be in trouble. I guess my point is that Ive yet to talk to a catholic that believes it all.

Well if they don't follow and believe its teachings and don't go to mass or support the church, I guess they aren't Catholics then in fact. (Just that if they were baptized by the Catholic church, that institution will still consider them to be Catholics unless they get excommunicated.)

 

[Lizbeth]

I notice Protestants cull the weakest of the Catholic herd while the strongest protestants are the converts to the truth of Catholicism

Actually it is those believers who are spiritually immature who are most easily blown about and deceived by every wind of doctrine, as the bible says...which is why it is imperative to grow and mature. Your understanding of "strong" protestants I suspect refers to the strength of their emotions.

 

[Lizbeth]

Demons, be it a demon spirit or demon man, do try to deceive, but God doesn't. And, because demons are no longer of God, they cannot produce good deeds, nor the feelings they infuse into the soul. Feelings are testified by deeds, and it's by deeds that you will know them (Matt. 7:18;20). If a prodigy—something extraordinary or inexplicable—comes from God, it infuses peace into the soul, peace and solemn joy, and if it comes from a demon, it brings about perturbation and sorrow.

Nonsense. Demons can produce "good" deeds of human righteousness, which is filthy rags to God....but they can't produce fruit of the Holy Spirit. As I've already pointed out the devil is transformed into an angel of light to deceive....wolves come in sheep's clothing. Unfortunately, and I'm saying this without malice, your responses are typical of people under the spell of a cult.....they are deaf and blind to simple truth and things that are plainly written in black and white, and they keep repeating their mantras and party line over and over again as if it were a chant. I hope you will one day receive Jesus and be freed.

 

[Lizbeth]

Demons, be it a demon spirit or demon man, do try to deceive, but God doesn't. And, because demons are no longer of God, they cannot produce good deeds, nor the feelings they infuse into the soul. Feelings are testified by deeds, and it's by deeds that you will know them (Matt. 7:18;20). If a prodigy—something extraordinary or inexplicable—comes from God, it infuses peace into the soul, peace and solemn joy, and if it comes from a demon, it brings about perturbation and sorrow.

Also want to remind you that the bible says God will send a strong delusion to those who have not received a love of the truth. He also sent a deceiving spirit to someone in the old testament. Deception is often His judgment.....He will give someone over to it if they persist in preferring a lie over the truth.

 

[NotTheRock]

Here you go, Origen. Cue the gymnastics routine.

The 15 promises
These are the 15 promises of the Blessed Virgin Mary to the faithful who pray the Rosary:

1. Whoever shall faithfully serve me by the recitation of the Rosary, shall receive signal graces.

 

[nedsk]

Actually it is those believers who are spiritually immature who are most easily blown about and deceived by every wind of doctrine, as the bible says...which is why it is imperative to grow and mature. Your understanding of "strong" protestants I suspect refers to the strength of their emotions.

Yes the weakest Catholics are swayed by protestant heresies. You suspect wrongly. It has nothing to do with their emotions. It has to do with the strength of their knowledge of Scripture which far surpasses yours and mine. Two remarkable examples are Scott Hahn and John Bergsma. Both protestant ministers who did make "emotional" moves to Catholicism. In fact Hahn was a virulent anti Catholic.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Profitable is not sufficient. Every single time

You need to take that up with God. He is the one who said it.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

A smaller stronger church is superior to a larger and weaker one.

Which one didnt he believe?

It was many. One- blessing homosexual unions.

Yes a strong church is better than a weak one no matter the size