I understand what being thrown alive into the lake of fire means

[Big Boy Johnson]

Only Annihilation fits that since the punishment given at the GWTJ is eternal death.

Eternal death means separation from God for all eternity, not cease to exist.

Jesus does not appreciate being called a liar... He clearly tells us "And these shall go away into everlasting punishment"

All the sinners out there love hearing how some claim they will not suffer in hell for eternity and this causes many to decide why bother to get born again. The false doctrine of annihilation will cause many to spend eternity in hell that would have otherwise gotten born again had they not be taught the false doctrine of annihilation.

 

[ewq1938]

Eternal death means separation from God for all eternity, not cease to exist.

No, death means not alive. Death does not mean alive but separated from God.

Jesus does not appreciate being called a liar... He clearly tells us "And these shall go away into everlasting punishment"

The punishment is eternal death not eternal life in torture.

All the sinners out there love hearing how some claim they will not suffer in hell for eternity and this causes many to decide why bother to get born again.

They don't believe in any life after death.

The false doctrine of annihilation will cause many to spend eternity in hell that would have otherwise gotten born again had they not be taught the false doctrine of annihilation.

How can it be false when the bible teaches it?

Psalms 37:20 But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the LORD shall be as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away.


Perishing and being burned and being consumed into smoke means they are annihilated.

 

[TheHC]

If after death, someone is being tormented forever, they have to be aware of it. That is life…. Isn’t it?

To be aware is to be conscious; to be alive.

Yet life is a gift — “…the gift God gives is everlasting life” (Rom 6:23) — not a punishment.

Death is the opposite of life, an unawareness of anything.
That’s why the future Resurrection — “in the Last Day”(John 6:44) — is such a valuable gift!

It will be wonderful!

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

No, death means not alive.

God's definition of death is to be separated from Him.

We find this in God's Word with the very first mention of death in the scriptures which is the garden of eden.

God told them if they ate of that tree they would surely die, but when they did that they did not die physically, they died spiritually and became separated from God.

Being separated from God is God's definition of death, not the carnal minded definition you are using which claims Jesus Christ is a lair . . . . He clearly tells us "And these shall go away into everlasting punishment"

Things end badly for those that believe Jesus is a liar

 

[ewq1938]

God's definition of death is to be separated from Him.

No, it isn't.

We find this in God's Word with the very first mention of death in the scriptures which is the garden of eden.

Adam died when he sinned, a spiritual death. It has nothing with being separated from God.

God told them if they ate of that tree they would surely die, but when they did that they did not die physically, they died spiritually and became separated from God.

God was still there. They had already died before they were kicked out of heaven. God was still speaking to them (Cain) after that as well which would ahve been many years later.

Being separated from God is God's definition of death, not the carnal minded definition you are using which claims Jesus Christ is a lair . . . . He clearly tells us "And these shall go away into everlasting punishment"

Things end badly for those that believe Jesus is a liar View attachment 43102

Same for those who accuse others.

 

[Phil .]

Pearls & swine.

 

[TribulationSigns]

Yes, I've always known that hell is in the heart of the earth as described by the bible and Jesus visiting it. And when Christ returns I think the seismic and volcanic activity will bring hell onto the earth to burn the wicked. I can only think that Jesus will collect his children first. And that is what is meant by being cast alive into the lake of fire.

Heart of the Earth? Of course not.

Rev 21:1
(1) And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

You already forgot that death and hell shall be thrown in the Lake of Fire, so it won't be in the heart of Earth. For the First Earth shall pass away. The "fire" as we know it on Earth will also pass away. The Lake of Fire won't be "hot" as it will burn your flesh or soul. No. The Lake of Fire is the Lord's Consuming Fire itself where the unbelievers will always be in the presence of God FOREVER. You realize that God is much bigger than the universe as it is today?

 

[Bill Judson]

Adam died when he sinned, a spiritual death. It has nothing with being separated from God.

Ha ha, that's what spiritual death is - being separated from God!

Hence the whole reason God had to bring Jesus in to the earth so men could get born again.

 

[ewq1938]

Ha ha, that's what spiritual death is - being separated from God!

No separation from God. They were separated from the tree of life though.

 

[Phil .]

"The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Whoever has ears, let them hear."

As there is no experience of a future…

The truth illuminates the illusion of separation. As attachment with discordant thoughts & beliefs is suffering, alignment is the allowance of inner & outer peace and true wisdom.

If it is believed there is a separate self (which has ears) - listen!

Aligning Thought With Feeling — Actuality Of Being

www.actualityofbeing.com

The Law of Correspondence.