Idolatry

[MatthewG]

i chose to address you to get you back into the bible for you .

I read the Bible. You’re just being a jerk in regards to my subjective beliefs. It’s not right, it’s definitely something I believe is wrong with a lot of “so called people who call them self a “Christian.” But you’re wrong when it comes to me believing universalism and me knowing all about preterism, @amigo de christo. I’m a faithful believer in the risen Christ Jesus; even despite my belief he has came back already…

 

[amigo de christo]

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One who sits under a harlot can expect a deadly disease my friend.
Beware of men who make broad their clothing and love to be called , MOST HOLY FATHER , MOST HOLY REVERAND ,
flattering titles . JESUS WARNED THEM . LOOKS like the RCC DIDNT GET THAT MEMO .
And though it claims to adhere to the doctrines of even peter
LETS NOTICE what peter and john did when men ran up to them , after they healed a man .
WHY LOOK YE ON US .
Or how about when peter entered into the house of cornelious
and cornelious tried to kneel before him . I DONT seem to remember peter saying
HOLD UP and let me get my chair and my ring so you can kiss it and call me MOST HOLY FATHER .
HE SAID GET UP , GET UP , i am but a man like you . SOMETHING WENT DEAD WRONG IN THAT OL RCC my friend .
Sadly much has went big time dead wrong in the prostestant one too .

 

[amigo de christo]

I read the Bible. You’re just being a jerk in regards to my subjective beliefs. It’s not right, it’s definitely something I believe is wrong with a lot of “so called people who call them self a “Christian.”

hey mathew . by the grace of GOD i have a good memory . You once told me you had not even read all of acts .
You aint fooling me my friend . NOW BIBLE TIME .

 

[amigo de christo]

I read the Bible. You’re just being a jerk in regards to my subjective beliefs. It’s not right, it’s definitely something I believe is wrong with a lot of “so called people who call them self a “Christian.”

You seem to make the time to read other stuff . NOWS ITS TIME to put all other stuff down
and pick bible up and be hungry for that again .
Read it like you love it . embrace and enjoy it daily . and beware for many decievers do abound .
in churches and THE INTERNET TOO . they everywhere . bible time .

 

[Ziggy]

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This is idolatry

 

[amigo de christo]

I don’t believe in universalism… and I don’t know all things about preterism. I’m just a faithful believer who believes Jesus came already. Yet people believe I’m not even right with Yahavah because of it. I don’t know why? You even chose to address me, because what reason? Is it something you need ?

Feast daily upon the holy bible . enjoy those lovely words. learn and grow and beware o men
for many , many , many decievers who can even holler love do abound .
Never forget that GOD is LOVE , but never forget that satan himself can quoate that
and yet lead men astray through his verision of love and of what he calleth GOD .

 

[MatthewG]

hey mathew . by the grace of GOD i have a good memory . You once told me you had not even read all of acts .
You aint fooling me my friend . NOW BIBLE TIME .

Once upon a time. That didn’t justify you being a jerk. You’re a meanie. I hate to act like a children right now but to me you are an abusive manipulator. You’ll continue to stay on ignore.

 

[amigo de christo]

This is idolatry

I do concur my friend .
and yet our protestant leaders want to bring us back into unity and common ground again with it .
Not only do it bow to statues , ITS MADE THE ROAD TO GOD HUGE
as it says muslims and all .....................
DONT think for a second i am gonna try and find common ground with THAT HARLOT .
rather i am gonna expose her and her doctrine and do all to warn both the protestant and the catholic
TO UNIFY NOT UNDER OR WITH THAT HO .

 

[amigo de christo]

Once upon a time. That didn’t justify you being a jerk. You’re a meanie. I hate to act like a children right now but to me you are an abusive manipulator. You’ll continue to stay on ignore.

RATHER ODD . if we examine our last several exchanges i sure did not seem to be the one name calling .
But that is where this sensual love common ground stuff has led people too .
Saying love all day long , but sure hating on those who talk about the bible and remind all to get in said bible .
And i dont marvel that you put me on ignore .

 

[MatthewG]

I just believe your an abusive manipulator… you had no right to just call out like you know me; and beliefs that I don’t even believe in, @amigo de christo and telling me to read the Bible, isn’t loving. It’s just you asserting power… that you don’t have! I already read the Bible, you big meanie.

That’s why a lot of people put you on ignore and you cry and then talk about God and whatever; I don’t care nothing about any of it, and you should leave me alone.

 

[Johann]

Yet rather than calling for repentance , what are most even within christendom calling for , GET OUT AND VOTE .
WE got a problem johann . A BIG ONE .
NO GOOD will come upon a people or a nation , IF IT WONT REPENT . ITS TIME TO PREACH A JONAH STYLE
BELIEVE YE IN THE REAL JESUS CHRIST , turn from your wickendness , MESSAGE .
THIS NATION and this WORLD , and most of christendom itself , EVIL HAS BEEN PURPOSED BY GOD AGAINST IT
BECAUSE IT WONT REPENT and rather GETS WORSE . ON that path , DESTRUCTION COMETH
the delusion has come already . the confusion of faces and reprobation has been sent .
IF my people who are called BY MY NAME would repent .......
Notice it dont say IF my people who are called by name WOULD VOTE . WE have a serious problem johann .
This people loveth evil and it turns to men , NOT TO GOD . this is not gonna bode well for them johann .

You're absolutely right in pointing out the urgency of the situation. The focus on political action, while important in its own place, cannot substitute for the fundamental need for repentance and turning back to God. The Bible is clear that no lasting good can come to a nation or people who refuse to repent and seek the Lord.

The Call to Repentance:

In the book of Jonah, God sent Jonah to Nineveh with a simple message: "Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown!" (Jonah 3:4). The people of Nineveh believed God, declared a fast, and put on sackcloth. As a result, "God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not" (Jonah 3:10). This shows the power of true repentance in averting judgment.
The Danger of Forsaking God:

The Prophet Jeremiah warned Israel, saying, "Thus says the Lord: 'Cursed is the man who trusts in man and makes flesh his strength, whose heart turns away from the Lord'" (Jeremiah 17:5, ESV). Relying on human solutions, whether through politics or other means, while ignoring the need for repentance, leads to disaster. Jeremiah also lamented, "They have healed the wound of my people lightly, saying, ‘Peace, peace,’ when there is no peace" (Jeremiah 6:14, ESV), highlighting the danger of false assurances when the root problem—sin—is not addressed.
The Necessity of Turning Back to God:

2 Chronicles 7:14 is often cited but bears repeating: "If my people who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land." Notice the sequence: humility, prayer, seeking God, and turning from wickedness are prerequisites for healing. Voting, while a civic duty, is not a substitute for these spiritual actions.
The Consequences of Unrepentance:

God’s warning through Isaiah is clear: "Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness" (Isaiah 5:20, ESV). When a people persist in evil and refuse to repent, they invite God’s judgment. The Apostle Paul echoes this in Romans 1, where he describes how God gives people over to a reprobate mind when they persist in their wickedness (Romans 1:28).
The Futility of Trusting in Man:

Psalm 146:3 warns, "Put not your trust in princes, in a son of man, in whom there is no salvation." The ultimate solution to the world's problems isn't found in political leaders or earthly institutions, but in God alone.
In summary, the message we need to proclaim, as you rightly pointed out, is not just a call to political action but a call to repentance. The focus must be on turning back to God, acknowledging our sins, and seeking His mercy. Without this, no political strategy will succeed, and no nation will escape judgment.

It's time for a Jonah-style message that calls people to repent and believe in the true Jesus Christ.

 

[Ziggy]

Okay.

What about it?

It’s call trusting in other things rather than Yahavah.

I remember when I was into witchcraft. I was stubborn in that route, for sure.x

Or even other thoughts that go against his ways.
You may think something is right and follow that path, and in the end find out it was just your own thoughts you were following.
If God says do this and we choose to do the other thing, even though we believe it is the right thing, then that is idolatry.

Jesus told us that God the Father, Our Father, wants us to worship him in Spirit and in Truth.
Not images, not ideas, nothing that we can create or recreate with our own minds or hands on this earth.
The only thing we should recreate in our daily lives is the very life that Christ gave us to walk in.
We should be doing the works Our Father gave us to do.
Anything outside of that is the works of our own hands and the worshipping of idolatry.

Any person, animal, image that is created in our minds and then manifested into a physical image is idolatry when we admire more the works that we have done more than the works that God has done and has given us to do.

So what is stubbornness?
Wanting to do things your own way.

Trusting in yourself is a form of self idolatry.
Remember the insciption on the coin that was given for taxes? It was Ceasars image. The image of a man.
No different than the currencies circulating around the earth today.
Some have Washington, others have leaders from their countries.



It's all idolatry.

We worship their leadership, their thoughts, their governance, and then put a "value" on it.

God is above and beyond all human value.

He is our very existance.

Hugs

 

[MatthewG]

Or even other thoughts that go against his ways.
You may think something is right and follow that path, and in the end find out it was just your own thoughts you were following.
If God says do this and we choose to do the other thing, even though we believe it is the right thing, then that is idolatry.

Jesus told us that God the Father, Our Father, wants us to worship him in Spirit and in Truth.
Not images, not ideas, nothing that we can create or recreate with our own minds or hands on this earth.
The only thing we should recreate in our daily lives is the very life that Christ gave us to walk in.
We should be doing the works Our Father gave us to do.
Anything outside of that is the works of our own hands and the worshipping of idolatry.

Any person, animal, image that is created in our minds and then manifested into a physical image is idolatry when we admire more the works that we have done more than the works that God has done and has given us to do.

So what is stubbornness?
Wanting to do things your own way.

Trusting in yourself is a form of self idolatry.
Remember the insciption on the coin that was given for taxes? It was Ceasars image. The image of a man.
No different than the currencies circulating around the earth today.
Some have Washington, others have leaders from their countries.

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It's all idolatry.

We worship their leadership, their thoughts, their governance, and then put a "value" on it.

God is above and beyond all human value.

He is our very existance.

Hugs

God is above and beyond all human value? Didn’t he create humans because he valued creating life?

I don’t believe having 10,000 in the bank in the bank as a believers of God is idolatry. It’s only when you become faithless, and put effort towards that certain object, which one begins to lose their self.

Im sure we are all guilty of it, I’m sure I am. But I don’t feel as I do it as much as I use to, because I put faith in Yahavah.

Even through long periods of me and him not conversing I still believe and have confidences the Holy Spirit and the spirit of Christ is within my heart, no matter what my flesh might be doing, even in moments of anger etc… but it’s quenched to a degree. When in spirit though, it’s all good that comes from the Spirit through me to the other person.

I don’t feel as though I’m always committing idolatry; or worshiping some type of object for fortune or change in life compared to look at Yahavah and how he changes our life by the spirit.

@Ziggy

 

[Ziggy]

I don’t feel as though I’m always committing idolatry

That's good Matthew. Keep working on putting aside worldly things and focus on the Lord and what he has provided for us already.

God is above and beyond all human value? Didn’t he create humans because he valued creating life?

God is Life. He gifted man with his own life. Without God there is no life.
Those who do not believe in God are truly dead.
Until God awakens them and they can see that without God we are No Thing.

Those that know God know that all the living belong to God.
Idols are not God. People are not gods. Even though we put them on pedastals and believe everything they tell us is for our own best interest. And then we create statues, currencies, pictures, ideologies, religions, surrounding those that say we should believe them.
Some people only worship their own ideologies and ideas and beliefs.

But if God isn't your bread and water, your already hungry and thirsty and on your way to famine and desolation.
and nothing in this world can save you except the one who gave his life for you.

Our Father who art in Heaven
Hallowed be thy Name.

We call him Father, because that is who he is.
As a body of believers we have one Father.
God almighty creator of Heaven and Earth.

Thy Kingdom Come...
Thy Will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

That Kingdom is within every believer who is led by God's spirit and does his will.

On earth as it is in Heaven... we should ask ourselves how is it done in heaven and what does that look like?
I believe Jesus gave us an example to follow.

It wasn't the golden calf that Aaron made that got god angry. It was the fact that the people turned their backs on him and wanted to return from whence they came. Apparently they weren't tortured enough or remembered their enslavement. They wanted "their" kingdom to imitata the kingdom they had just been freed from.

But you know.. God gives man what he wants sometimes even when it isn't in their best interest.
stubborness is as idolatry.

Matthew just be thankful that God hasn't cast us all of and forgotten us for all the sins we have brought upon the world that he created in perfection for a perfect people.
One day we will see that manifestation and those who trust and believe god will be a part of it.

Hang on friend, things about to get bumpy.
Keep the faith.
Hugs

 

[theJW]

Thy Kingdom Come...
Thy Will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

That Kingdom is within every believer who is led by God's spirit and does his will.

Dan 2:44- And in the days of those kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed, nor shall the sovereignty thereof be left to another people; but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

It is a real government!

 

[Ziggy]

Dan 2:44- And in the days of those kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed, nor shall the sovereignty thereof be left to another people; but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

It is a real government!

I believe it is REAL, we just don't see it yet in it's glory because we are still fighting off beasts that want to never have it come to pass.
There is a real war going on in the world right now. It's a spiritual war good versus evil.
And somedays it may appear as if evil has the upper hand. But we know who is in charge of the plan.
And even Jesus knowing their plans said.. this is your hour of darkness, before he was crucified and rose again.
We are closing in on that final hour of darkness. And they won't hold back until they believe they have won the war.
World War 3 has nothing compared to the devastation taking place in the hearts and minds of the younger generations.
The devil is here to take their souls and it's appauling how many parents are willingly handing them over to the fire.
Just like the days of Baal, but on a much more sinister level.

When that door opens and God's Kingdom is ushered in here on earth as it is in heaven....

Just remember...
The Best is Yet to Come.


Hugs

 

[MatthewG]

That's good Matthew. Keep working on putting aside worldly things and focus on the Lord and what he has provided for us already.

God is Life. He gifted man with his own life. Without God there is no life.
Those who do not believe in God are truly dead.
Until God awakens them and they can see that without God we are No Thing.

Those that know God know that all the living belong to God.
Idols are not God. People are not gods. Even though we put them on pedastals and believe everything they tell us is for our own best interest. And then we create statues, currencies, pictures, ideologies, religions, surrounding those that say we should believe them.
Some people only worship their own ideologies and ideas and beliefs.

But if God isn't your bread and water, your already hungry and thirsty and on your way to famine and desolation.
and nothing in this world can save you except the one who gave his life for you.

Our Father who art in Heaven
Hallowed be thy Name.

We call him Father, because that is who he is.
As a body of believers we have one Father.
God almighty creator of Heaven and Earth.

Thy Kingdom Come...
Thy Will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

That Kingdom is within every believer who is led by God's spirit and does his will.

On earth as it is in Heaven... we should ask ourselves how is it done in heaven and what does that look like?
I believe Jesus gave us an example to follow.

It wasn't the golden calf that Aaron made that got god angry. It was the fact that the people turned their backs on him and wanted to return from whence they came. Apparently they weren't tortured enough or remembered their enslavement. They wanted "their" kingdom to imitata the kingdom they had just been freed from.

But you know.. God gives man what he wants sometimes even when it isn't in their best interest.
stubborness is as idolatry.

Matthew just be thankful that God hasn't cast us all of and forgotten us for all the sins we have brought upon the world that he created in perfection for a perfect people.
One day we will see that manifestation and those who trust and believe god will be a part of it.

Hang on friend, things about to get bumpy.
Keep the faith.
Hugs

Yeah. Love God first, and then love your neighbor as yourself.

As common as that phrase is thrown around, you still have to stand firm with human beings.

 

[MatthewG]

Dan 2:44- And in the days of those kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed, nor shall the sovereignty thereof be left to another people; but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

It is a real government!

All believers are part of the government administration of Yeshua. The former government was the Law of Israel. Praise be to Yeshua it is now established.

“For he has rescued us from the kingdom of darkness and transferred us into the Kingdom of his dear Son, who purchased our freedom and forgave our sins.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭1‬:‭13‬-‭14‬ ‭NLT‬‬

We are part of that kingdom now today… with a family of believers there in it, and family of believers here in it. Where the spirit of the Lord is there is freedom.

 

[theJW]

All believers are part of the government administration of Yeshua. The former government was the Law of Israel. Praise be to Yeshua it is now established.

“For he has rescued us from the kingdom of darkness and transferred us into the Kingdom of his dear Son, who purchased our freedom and forgave our sins.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭1‬:‭13‬-‭14‬ ‭NLT‬‬

We are part of that kingdom now today… with a family of believers there in it, and family of believers here in it. Where the spirit of the Lord is there is freedom.

Your mixing Hebrew with English makes me wonder about your sincerity.

 

[MatthewG]

Your mixing Hebrew with English makes me wonder about your sincerity.

You should question anyone who says anything about the Bible…

We are still adopted, believers brother and sisters alike, when we come to Yeshua and his resurrection. And part of a Kingdom that is Heavenly.


“who did rescue us out of the authority of the darkness, and did translate [us] into the reign of the Son of His love,”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭1‬:‭13‬ ‭YLT98‬‬