If atheists get accused of taking verses out of context, how do we know fundamentalists making those accusations aren’t doing the same as well?

[Wrangler]

Wrangler, how do we know you were “all mentally there” when you had your supernatural experience?

It comes down to the 2nd most important law. Do you love - and believe - me and the billions of other people or not?

Friend, you are in a very dark place. You readily all manner of monstrous evil - like globalism, humanism, Big Government, slaughtering babies, sexual perversion of all kind. Yet, you cannot bring yourself to believe others have experienced divine things you have not.

 

[Wrangler]

There’s also billions of eye witness testimony of the prophet Muhammad.

Not true. Many belief he is the last prophet of God but they do no testify that Muhammad is alive today. Research it.

 

[Wrangler]

go ahead and present your witnesses’ evidence

You got it backwards as usual. The witnesses ARE the evidence.

 

[Wrangler]

“Imply” is not the same as “proves”.

Many court cases are decided based on circumstantial evidence. You hope to set a false standard of proof, designed to fail.

 

[Wrangler]

We don’t know if those witnesses were all mentally there to begin with. This was long ago, when electricity didn’t even exist.

Speculation. Disrespectful. Desperate. What does electricity have to do with this thread?

I know Atheists are all not mentally there to begin with. See the difference? You proceed from uncertainty but I proceed from certainty. How do I know. Atheists are nihilists. You believe something-everything came from nothing. The imbalance of Atheists is seen beyond just their illogical world view; it is seen in the double standards of the criteria used to accept Atheism.

Atheism - accepted by default.
Theism - cannot be proven.

This is NOT the scientific method. It is not based on evidence. The vast majority of people who have ever lived belief in God. A very small minority of people who ever lived are Atheists. To suppose the extreme minority of people are the only ones that can be relied on to be all mentally there is ridiculous on its face.

Atheism is denial. Consider this thread topic. Atheists actually pride themselves in understanding a religious text better than those who hold it sacred. It is illogical to suppose those who deny the sacred even exists know the sacred best. Not all mentally there to begin with. And what does God's word say about this?


Only a fool would say, "There is no God!" People like that are worthless; they are heartless and cruel and never do right.
Proverbs 14:1

 

[Wrangler]

be prepared for a cross exam

Woah? Why do Atheists give themselves a pass? What is your evidence that there is no God? By definition, all you got for a cross is to deny the mountain of evidence that you are drowning in.

@Romanov2488 is so desperate, he's adopted a psychological attack, speculating that believers are mentally unbalanced. Speculation is not evidence.

 

[Romanov2488]

Agreed.

However, our dumbed down society foolishly equates something that is fiction means it is false. For instance, the parables that Jesus taught were fiction, yet contain eternal truths. The best example being the Protocol Son. Some say it is the best story of all time.

Society has come a long way from the ignorant Christian premodern era.

 

[Wrangler]

Society has come a long way from the ignorant Christian premodern era.

Our society today is so divorced from science and reality, they don’t know there are only 2 genders.

 

[Romanov2488]

Speculation. Disrespectful. Desperate. What does electricity have to do with this thread?

I know Atheists are all not mentally there to begin with. See the difference? You proceed from uncertainty but I proceed from certainty. How do I know. Atheists are nihilists. You believe something-everything came from nothing. The imbalance of Atheists is seen beyond just their illogical world view; it is seen in the double standards of the criteria used to accept Atheism.

Atheism - accepted by default.
Theism - cannot be proven.

This is NOT the scientific method. It is not based on evidence. The vast majority of people who have ever lived belief in God. A very small minority of people who ever lived are Atheists. To suppose the extreme minority of people are the only ones that can be relied on to be all mentally there is ridiculous on its face.

Atheism is denial. Consider this thread topic. Atheists actually pride themselves in understanding a religious text better than those who hold it sacred. It is illogical to suppose those who deny the sacred even exists know the sacred best. Not all mentally there to begin with. And what does God's word say about this?


Only a fool would say, "There is no God!" People like that are worthless; they are heartless and cruel and never do right.
Proverbs 14:1

Triggered, emotional, illogical. It’s also asking a valid question. You don’t have the guts to take the witnesses into question, but I do.

I don’t believe that everything came from nothing. That’s a banal assumption on your part. Not believing in God doesn’t equate to believing everything came from nothing.

 

[Romanov2488]

Our society today is so divorced from science and reality, they don’t know there are only 2 genders.

Science confirms there’s more than 2. Your fundamentalist Christian bigotry is showing here. Gender is a spectrum, 2 genders is an oversimplification.

Sex Redefined: The Idea of 2 Sexes Is Overly Simplistic

Biologists now think there is a larger spectrum than just binary female and male

www.scientificamerican.com

 

[Wrangler]

You don’t have the guts to take the witnesses into question, but I do.

Malicious attack is not courage but cowardice.

 

[Wrangler]

Science confirms there’s more than 2. Your fundamentalist Christian bigotry is showing here. Gender is a spectrum, 2 genders is an oversimplification.

Sex Redefined: The Idea of 2 Sexes Is Overly Simplistic

Biologists now think there is a larger spectrum than just binary female and male

www.scientificamerican.com

I call BS. Your article actually asserts mutations as genders. Just word games. Antonyms are not synonyms. And the politicization of science hides truth to advance an agenda.

As someone recently said, if you pay someone $1,000 per day to prove something, they will ‘prove’ it.

Recent evidence refuting the non-binary genders are death statistics from COVID. Odd that only 2 genders were affected by the pandemic.

 

[Romanov2488]

I call BS. Just word games. Antonyms are not synonyms. And the politicization of science hides truth to advance an agenda.

As someone recently said, if you pay someone $1,000 per day to prove something, they will ‘prove’ it.

Recent evidence refuting the non-binary genders are death statistics from COVID. Odd that only 2 genders were affected by the pandemic.

You call BS only because it doesn’t fit your bigoted narrative. You clearly do not understand how science works, nor do you understand the scientific method.

Don’t forget all the right wing scientists promoting pseudoscience regarding dewormers helping with COVID.

And paying someone $1000 to prove something, also applies to religious claims.

 

[Lapidem]

We are quite obviously trying to debate with a teenager here whose sole debating style is "I say it is so there!"

There can be no further merit in continuing to listen to the totally illogical spiel and repeatedly going round the same fallacious material.

Done

 

[Romanov2488]

We are quite obviously trying to debate with a teenager here whose sole debating style is "I say it is so there!"

There can be no further merit in continuing to listen to the totally illogical spiel and repeatedly going round the same fallacious material.

Done

Whatever he took to have that supernatural experience, I want it. Or if he fell down a flight of stairs, I’ll take that too.

 

[Wrangler]

You call BS only because it doesn’t fit your bigoted narrative.

Just because something is untrue does not make me hate-filled.

 

[Wrangler]

Don’t forget all the right wing scientists promoting pseudoscience regarding dewormers helping with COVID.

I never heard of dewormers regarding COVID but I suppose that is just slander.

Often drugs are developed for one purpose only to find a good application later. One example is a drug developed to improve cardiovascular health had a fortunate side effect. It is now primarily marketed to cause that side affect. See Viagra.

 

[Romanov2488]

I never heard of dewormers regarding COVID but I suppose that is just slander.

Often drugs are developed for one purpose only to find a good application later. One example is a drug developed to improve cardiovascular health had a fortunate side effect. It is now primarily marketed to cause that side affect. See Viagra.

It’s not slander, right wing doctors were encouraging the use of ivermectin which is a horse dewormer.

Encouraged by right-wing doctor groups, desperate patients turn to ivermectin for long Covid

The leaders of groups promoting ivermectin for long Covid have achieved large followings on social media through ties to right-wing political organizations and Trump administration officials.

www.statnews.com

 

[Wrangler]

It’s not slander, right wing doctors were encouraging the use of ivermectin which is a horse dewormer.

Encouraged by right-wing doctor groups, desperate patients turn to ivermectin for long Covid

The leaders of groups promoting ivermectin for long Covid have achieved large followings on social media through ties to right-wing political organizations and Trump administration officials.

www.statnews.com

Again, what makes you think it could not have other benefits?
Regular Use of Ivermectin as Prophylaxis for COVID-19 Led Up to a 92% Reduction in COVID-19 Mortality Rate
The Ivermectin African Enigma
Large majority of randomized and observational controlled trials of ivermectin are reporting repeated, large magnitude improvements in clinical outcomes

Your hatred for Christians seems to be re-directed to your hatred for your Republican friends. What's up with that?

 

[Romanov2488]

Again, what makes you think it could not have other benefits?
Regular Use of Ivermectin as Prophylaxis for COVID-19 Led Up to a 92% Reduction in COVID-19 Mortality Rate
The Ivermectin African Enigma
Large majority of randomized and observational controlled trials of ivermectin are reporting repeated, large magnitude improvements in clinical outcomes

Your hatred for Christians seems to be re-directed to your hatred for your Republican friends. What's up with that?

Most, if not many republicans are Christian, the GOP claims to be the party of Jesus essentially. Christians use the excuse of “hate the sin, not the sinner” to absolve themselves of hate. If you want to say that murder is a sin, then sure. But when that extends to people’s identity and not just their actions such as being gay or atheist or Buddhist, that’s when I have a problem.

I actually think both parties are pretty stupid, probably won’t be voting this time. It’s looking to be the same politically gridlocked nonsense all over again. To think that you are voting “for the lesser of two evils” which is nothing more than a platitude, is ridiculous. Think again