If You Were to Die Today

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If I was to die today...

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Yeah, i’ve monitored my own threads for people who have derailed the topic - most don’t bother apologizing for doing so....
 
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Matthew 22:37
"Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets."
IT IS ALL ABOUT AGAPE! There is NO room for hate in the Gospel, we are allowed to HATE Satan and his wiles-we are allowed to and SHOULD HATE sin...never others as EVERY human being has been created in His image...I you have hate other than for the 2 I mentioned above, then you are of your father Satan, and have no place in Christ. God is LOVE!

Hate is as much a part of man as love is. It contributes to our personalities just like joy, sadness, grief, happiness, fear, does. They express how you feel. We are that way because we are created in the image of God. None of these are sin in and of themselves. They can be if they are misdirected.

Even love can be sin. We are told we are not to love the world. (1 John 2:15) "Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him." And God also inspired John to write (John 3:16). "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

Why would God love something but warn us not to love that same thing? Because we cannot love the world without being affected and destroyed by it. Thus you see that 'love' is not something that the believer must always be exhibiting toward everything and everyone. Love is not a blanket that the believer must wrap himself in and that is all you see.

God is love, of course. And the believer has the ability to display that love toward others because we have the Spirit of God. But if you were alive in Jacob and Esau's day, would God require you to love Esau, though He hated him? Or would you be in line with God if you hated Esau also? (Mal. 1:2-3) (Rom. 9:11-13)

(Matt. 22:34-40) deals with the greatest commandments of the law. And they are best described as loving God and your neighbor. In (Matt. 19:16-23) the rich young ruler asked Christ what he must do to inherit eternal life. Christ gave him the commandments including loving his neighbor as himself. To which the man said he has kept all these commandments. But he still was not saved.

Thus my point is that the Gospel is believe on Jesus Christ for forgiveness of sins and eternal life. Faith in Jesus Christ alone brings salvation. You are not even required to love God at that time, you are just required to come to Him. He loves you. And that will create a love in you for Him that continues to grow. And shall not your spirit reflect the way God feels about things as you walk with Him. Have you never come across someone you have never known or seen for the first time, and yet something in you is repulsed by this individual? I would say 'hate' but I know you don't like the word. But, haven't you? Do you try and force yourself to love this person though something inside detests this individual? Do you not think it could be the Spirit of God in you that despises the spirit of that individual.

But we still can give the gospel.

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I guess I never really mentioned a focal point for this thread. I was thinking more on the lines of eternal security, how we can know 100% certain. Salvation is by grace alone, though works do show our faith in God. We were talking about that tonight at Bible study. And that also, fear is not of God. So maybe being afraid of losing our salvation is just another way for satan to attack us. If we have come to know Christ, then if we follow Him we don't even have to doubt we are saved. Sin can sow seeds of doubt in our minds if we start living in it.
Agreed!
Hate is as much a part of man as love is. It contributes to our personalities just like joy, sadness, grief, happiness, fear, does. They express how you feel. We are that way because we are created in the image of God. None of these are sin in and of themselves. They can be if they are misdirected.

Even love can be sin. We are told we are not to love the world. (1 John 2:15) "Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him." And God also inspired John to write (John 3:16). "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

Why would God love something but warn us not to love that same thing? Because we cannot love the world without being affected and destroyed by it. Thus you see that 'love' is not something that the believer must always be exhibiting toward everything and everyone. Love is not a blanket that the believer must wrap himself in and that is all you see.

God is love, of course. And the believer has the ability to display that love toward others because we have the Spirit of God. But if you were alive in Jacob and Esau's day, would God require you to love Esau, though He hated him? Or would you be in line with God if you hated Esau also? (Mal. 1:2-3) (Rom. 9:11-13)

(Matt. 22:34-40) deals with the greatest commandments of the law. And they are best described as loving God and your neighbor. In (Matt. 19:16-23) the rich young ruler asked Christ what he must do to inherit eternal life. Christ gave him the commandments including loving his neighbor as himself. To which the man said he has kept all these commandments. But he still was not saved.

Thus my point is that the Gospel is believe on Jesus Christ for forgiveness of sins and eternal life. Faith in Jesus Christ alone brings salvation. You are not even required to love God at that time, you are just required to come to Him. He loves you. And that will create a love in you for Him that continues to grow. And shall not your spirit reflect the way God feels about things as you walk with Him. Have you never come across someone you have never known or seen for the first time, and yet something in you is repulsed by this individual? I would say 'hate' but I know you don't like the word. But, haven't you? Do you try and force yourself to love this person though something inside detests this individual? Do you not think it could be the Spirit of God in you that despises the spirit of that individual.

But we still can give the gospel.

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God calls us to love our neighbor=everybody. It's not a "feeling" it's a command. We are called to love the "unlovable" and it can be tough. This kind of love is not a touch feely thing, it is agape=self sacrificial. Jesus changed everything when the New Covenant came. Old=love those who love you. New=love others as you love yourself. We love under grace now, you cannot mix OC law with NC law...The OC points to Jesus throughout the books. NC didn't even start until Jesus said "It is finished"...at a community center here, I deal with oodles of poor and homeless..and yes, they can be tough to love and some of them DO get tough love, ha! Doesn't meat we exchange phone numbers and meet for coffee, we feed and clothe them as best we can and we are happy when they walk away so blessed by something you or I might toss in the garbage. Jesus never said it would be easy. I love the simplicity of the gospel. ♥
 
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Then you clearly haven't met me, or been to my church, or perhaps even met Jesus. To be a racist is to deny scripture.
Acts 17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
25 Neither is worshipped with men’s hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;
26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:
28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.

Bit back to the OP. Yes, if I died right now, I trust in the promises of my Saviour that I will go to heaven. Not yet though. First, the resurrection.

Well said and one of my favorite passages!
28 "For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring."
 

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I am 100% sure that I dont deserve to go to heaven

I am 100% sure that Jesus died for me that I may go to heaven

I am 100% sure that we have a merciful judge

Were I to die today , i would fall on my face before Him, and throw myself at His mercy..

I am 100% sure that I cannot argue with His judgement as to my final disposition...

Lamb of God, have mercy on us!
 
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I am 100% sure that I cannot argue with His judgement as to my final disposition...
Praise God that the promise has been made,
KJV Daniel 7
22 Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.
 
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Agreed!

God calls us to love our neighbor=everybody. It's not a "feeling" it's a command. We are called to love the "unlovable" and it can be tough. This kind of love is not a touch feely thing, it is agape=self sacrificial. Jesus changed everything when the New Covenant came. Old=love those who love you. New=love others as you love yourself. We love under grace now, you cannot mix OC law with NC law...The OC points to Jesus throughout the books. NC didn't even start until Jesus said "It is finished"...at a community center here, I deal with oodles of poor and homeless..and yes, they can be tough to love and some of them DO get tough love, ha! Doesn't meat we exchange phone numbers and meet for coffee, we feed and clothe them as best we can and we are happy when they walk away so blessed by something you or I might toss in the garbage. Jesus never said it would be easy. I love the simplicity of the gospel. ♥

The simple gospel is believe on Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved.

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