I'm starting to think that the YLT translation is the only one to read

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Patrick1966

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John the Baptist must have been wrong.

John 1:29
29 The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!
 
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If the ESV translation is correct, then all of these verses are also incorrect.

Mathew 25:46 ESV
And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.

Mathew 25:46 YLT
And these shall go away to punishment age-during, but the righteous to life age-during
 
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Sounds to me like men went to work to promote this all inclusive universal we are one religion .
I tried to tell folks they have been at work for years . THEY change the greek to SUIT THE AGENDA
of the one world religoin which claims all paths to God . I had a hunch that was going on
,thanks to patrick i see its exactly what they did . They do things for a reason folks .
 
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Sounds to me like men went to work to promote this all inclusive universal we are one religion .
I tried to tell folks they have been at work for years . THEY change the greek to SUIT THE AGENDA
of the one world religoin which claims all paths to God . I had a hunch that was going on
,thanks to patrick i see its exactly what they did . They do things for a reason folks .

I'm sharing scripture; you're sharing your personal opinion.
 

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Luke 2:10 ylt
And the messenger said to them, `Fear not, for lo, I bring you good news of great joy, that shall be to ALL the people
 
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ISAIAH 45:22-24 "Turn to me and be saved, all you ends of the earth. By myself I have sworn, my mouth has uttered in all integrity a word that will not be revoked: Before me every knee will bow; by me every tongue will swear. They will say of me, `In the Lord alone are righteousness and strength.'"
 
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I'm sharing scripture; you're sharing your personal opinion.
your also taking them all out of text . cause How often did JESUS warn about those who would not beleive .
Said it would be better for even sodom and gomorra on the DAY of judgment than for them .
SO my advice is , You NEED to TELL FOLKS TO BELIEVE IN CHRIST instead of giving out false hope to those who dont .
Cause you left out a lot of other things that both CHRIST and the apostels both said and did .
THEY did shake the dust off their feet , JUST as JESUS Told them . as A testimony against the ones who were rejecting CHRIST .
YOU take a lot of things out of text my friend . A LOT . Besides all that
you need to also read the book of the revelation . IT clearly states that if any man adds to or takes from that book
exactly what will happen to them . The very lake of fire that so many tried to omit , they will find themselves in on the last day .
Instead of trying to preach this other go spell , TRY PREACHING JESUS . I mean if one beleives in HIM
why worry over the lake of fire , cause those wont SEE IT or face it . Beware you are in dire danger my friend .
 

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2 Corinthians 5: 14-15

For the love of Christ controls us, because we have concluded this: that ONE HAS DIED FOR ALL, therefore all have died; 15 and he died for all, that those who live might no longer live for themselves but for him who for their sake died and was raised.
 
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your also taking them all out of text . cause How often did JESUS warn about those who would not beleive .
Said it would be better for even sodom and gomorra on the DAY of judgment than for them .
SO my advice is , You NEED to TELL FOLKS TO BELIEVE IN CHRIST instead of giving out false hope to those who dont .
Cause you left out a lot of other things that both CHRIST and the apostels both said and did .
THEY did shake the dust off their feet , JUST as JESUS Told them . as A testimony against the ones who were rejecting CHRIST .
YOU take a lot of things out of text my friend . A LOT . Besides all that
you need to also read the book of the revelation . IT clearly states that if any man adds to or takes from that book
exactly what will happen to them . The very lake of fire that so many tried to omit , they will find themselves in on the last day .
Instead of trying to preach this other go spell , TRY PREACHING JESUS . I mean if one beleives in HIM
why worry over the lake of fire , cause those wont SEE IT or face it . Beware you are in dire danger my friend .

Most of the verses I've provided point to Jesus's sacrifice. Of course, Jesus is the only path to live forever AND to avoid a fiery judgment. Followers of Jesus will receive never-ending life with him. Non-followers will be judged and some will likely need refining on the "Lake of Fire" but, thereafter, they will be purified and cleansed and will join the rest of us in God's kingdom.
 
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Most of the verses I've provided point to Jesus's sacrifice. Of course, Jesus is the only path to live forever AND to avoid a fiery judgment. Followers of Jesus will receive never-ending life with him. Non-followers will be judged and some will likely need refining on the "Lake of Fire" but, thereafter, they will be purified and cleansed and will join the rest of us in God's kingdom.
No in the lake of fire it clearly states that they are destroyed . Lest you think even satan gets refined and saved .
My advice is preach BELIEVE IN JESUS . Folks are adding to the book of revelation .
IT NEVER says they get out later . That is ADDING to that book . My advice is leave it be
and just preach JESUS to the lost .
 

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You NEED to TELL FOLKS TO BELIEVE IN CHRIST instead of giving out false hope to those who dont .

Your problem is that you're full of pride and vanity and need to win an argument even if it means REJECTING the word of God so that you can be right! I'm simply trying to help you to find the truth and for that you attack me, sort of like what Jesus warned against in Matthew 7:6.

Yes, people must believe in and love God more than anything, believe in Jesus, love our neighbors and live Godly lives. Failure to do that can result in damnation and it would be a HORRIBLE experience. The way to avoid that temporary experience is to follow and obey God.
 

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No in the lake of fire it clearly states that they are destroyed . Lest you think even satan gets refined and saved .
My advice is preach BELIEVE IN JESUS . Folks are adding to the book of revelation .
IT NEVER says they get out later . That is ADDING to that book . My advice is leave it be
and just preach JESUS to the lost .

Ok, so you REJECT God's words. So be it. I am shaking my sandals and moving on.
 

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1 John 4:14
14 And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world.
exactly THEY TESTIFY OF that . lets look at what john also says about those who dont .
Spirit of anti christ . exactly . JESUS is the SAVOIR OF THE WORLD , NOW BELIEVE IN HIM .
I never said he wasnt , i say HE IS and i also say
Those who believe will be saved but those who do not will be damned . Yet i said that not first , JESUS said it .
And again read the book of revelation . and dont add to nor take from it . NEVER says they get out of the lake of fire
it says they are destroyed . So , lets just leave it at that .
 
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Well, if you're right and people are condemned to a forever Hell then 1 Timothy 4:10 is wrong, correct?

“For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.” (1 Timothy 4:10)

Car manufacturers build cars for all men, especially for those with driver’s licenses…

Can all men lawfully drive a car regardless of being licensed to drive?
 
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Gents, you are my brothers in Christ. All that really matters was summed up by Jesus in the Great White. So let's just leave it at that. I may engage with others on the topic of universalism, but I will refrain from doing so with you gentlemen. After all, we're commanded to avoid petty disagreements that breed division.
 
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