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Discussion in 'Bible Study Forum' started by soul man, Nov 4, 2019.

  1. marks

    marks Well-Known Member

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    Amen!

    "But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, easy to be entreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without variance, without hypocrisy."

    Let us all be the same in both what we teach and in how we act.

    Much love!
     
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    marks Well-Known Member

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    Hi soul man,

    That's the thing, to me. Are we in fact teachable? Are we truly humble? Not some false show of humility, where we secretly believe we are just the same better than others. But truly believing in our own personal weakness and baseness?

    Some seem to be able to receive from the words of others, some do not, but I think that reflects how the Holy Spirit is speaking to them. I don't think anyone will receive instruction from another if they are not first yielded to the Holy Spirit.

    If they are, then God will teach, through all His ways.

    Much love!
     
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    Awesome. It all bottoms out with FAITH and surrender. I used to be such a worry wart, like my parents before me. He has brought me so far from whence I came! Answers to prayers that would be impossible for me...He has made the way straight and has answered in so many ways that I would never have believed before. To me, if we have no control of things that come our way (tribulations and testings) worrying, fretting about it does no good as it shows lack of true faith. He has gotten me to the place where I DO trust Him no matter what is happening. "He makes all things good to those who love Him..." FAITH!!!!! Cannot please Him without it ❤
     
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    Rejoice in union with the Lord always! I will say it again: rejoice!
    Let everyone see how reasonable and gentle you are. The Lord is near!
    Don’t worry about anything; on the contrary, make your requests known to God by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving. Then God’s shalom, passing all understanding, will keep your hearts and minds safe in union with the Messiah Yeshua.
    In conclusion, brothers, focus your thoughts on what is true, noble, righteous, pure, lovable or admirable, on some virtue or on something praiseworthy.
     
  5. marks

    marks Well-Known Member

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    Let's be real about this.

    I don't actually disagree with him on everything, and I've stated a number of times things I've agreed with, and have given likes to his posts.

    "Following around trying to pick a fight" describes your projection, and not my motives.

    My motives are to make his doctrine clearly known, and if possible to engage him in an actually Scripture based dialog. But since I persist in my questions, and again, won't be provoked, well, the thing is, I ask the questions that have no answer when you teach what he does. So, he does not respond.

    "The treatment" I refer to is vilification instead of actual answers. And many other assorted provocations. There are actually many ways to not answer for one's self.

    Since I didn't rise to his bait he's put me on ignore. Yet I hope sometime he will look, and reply, and we can dialog. But again, I understand his refusal.

    I've watched him do it to others. I remember one exchange where this one needled and needled and needled until the other person said the wrong thing, and then "AHA! There's the Real You!" A victory scored by a man who needled a person into misspeaking. Great going! Very impressive!

    These things are often overlooked by people who regard other's persons, just the same, out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.

    All these things show the heart. But who cares?
     
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    stunnedbygrace Well-Known Member

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    Oh, you don't rise to his bait? For a few months now you are the one doing the baiting and He is the one not rising to it. You are persistent though. You've tried every way you can to bait and engage him. And since it hasn't got you what you want, you try to convince other men that he is abusing them by appealing to their pride. I've seen your tactic work on one woman in here, but I've yet to see it work on the men you try it on. It certainly hasn't worked on soulman.
     
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    marks Well-Known Member

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    Yes, that is correct. I call attention to such behavior, not engage in it.

    Your accusation is without foundation. Where have I used insults? Innuendo?

    I'm not trying to enlist anyone. I point to things that aren't right. Obviously there are those that have a problem with that.

    There's no tactic. Just straightforward communication.

    Convince others they are being abused? No. That is for them to decide. But calling someone on their nonesense? Yes, I'll do that.

    Much love!
     
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    stunnedbygrace Well-Known Member

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    I'm not going to let this devolve any further. Sorry.
     
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    That's fine. It's not like it was a conversation or discussion. Accusations without substantiation. And I wasn't really addressing you to begin with.
     
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    ...children in the playground. LOL
     
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    Yes, well Epi certainly isn't addressing you, but that doesn't stop you from addressing him, so not sure what your point is about not addressing me. If you can keep addressing a man who has refused to respond to you for months, I suppose I can address you.
     
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    It's quite apparent by now that he's not going to answer you, so why do you say, let the man answer for himself? He's nonresponsive like a sheep before a sheerer with you and yet you say, let the man answer for himself?
     
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    You nailed yourself. Congrats!
     
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    marks Well-Known Member

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    :rolleyes:

    More like someone who won't answer a phone.
     
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    :rolleyes:
     
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