Marine0311
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Only in your world of denial and deception could it not mean what it says. Mary——>her sons——>her daughters. Carpenters son (Jesus)——->mother is Mary——>brothers ——-> sisters. Now let the pagan spin begin.
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most people were illiterate until the 20th century
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Faith comets by hearing not reading.
Mary was already immaculate
and filled with the Holy Spirit Lk 1:40 And entered into the house of Zacharias, and saluted Elisabeth.
it does not say or make them children of Mary!
Jacob had 12 sons , do you assume they all had the same mother?
All of this is a distortion of Scripture! Why not accept what the Bible actually says instead of parroting what your "priests" tell you?
All of this is a distortion of Scripture! Why not accept what the Bible actually says instead of parroting what your "priests" tell you?
Mary is "most holy" to you and other RCCs perhaps, but Scripture says no such thing.
Mary is not "ever virgin mother". She had intercourse with Joseph several times, giving birth to Jesus' siblings.
Mary is not "mother of our salvation". That phrase doesn't appear in Scripture anywhere. It's a made-up RCC term.
How could a sinner be a virgin bringing forth the savior of the world? Because that's the way God planned it. (BTW, she was not a "perpetual virgin" -- see above)
Luke 1:28-29, " The angel came to her and said, “Greetings, favored one, the Lord is with you!” But she was greatly troubled by his words and began to wonder about the meaning of this greeting." She was greatly troubled by being called "favored one"!
Lk 1: 45 "And blessed is she that believed: for there shall be a performance of those things which were told her from the Lord." says nothing about her being faithful.
How could sinner be a perpetual Virgin bringing forth the savior of the world? She was not a perpetual virgin (for the nth time!) She was a sinner chosen by God.
How could sinner be the immaculate conception and the have the Holy Spirit accomplish the Miraculous conception of Jesus in Her? Because God is God and can do as He wishes. BTW, Mary is not "the immaculate conception". She was a young woman, not an activity.
You have been duped.
Mary was not naturally born without sin.
* umpteen Scriptural verses reveal JESUS was without sin, had no sin.
*Not one Scriptural verse says Mary was without sin.
*Not one Scriptural verse says God has a mother, a father, or is descended from anyone, anything.
*Not one Scriptural verse says Mary did not have a sexual relationship with her husband Joseph.
* Joseph, husband of Mary was told while he slept:
Matt 1:
[20] But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.
[21] And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
[22] Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying,
[23] Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
[24] Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife:
[25] And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.
The Scripture is PLAIN and to the Point.
* Joseph DID as the angel of the Lord told him to do.
* Joseph married Mary.
* Joseph was encouraged to name the baby John, but named the baby JESUS.
* And Joseph waited according to Jewish Customs and the angel of the Lords bidding, to NOT have sexual intercourse with Mary UNTIL AFTER the birth of the male child.
* Jewish religious Custom was to NOT have sexual intercourse after a females issue of blood had been stopped for 7 days, as well a waiting period of 7 days after the birth of a male child (14 days for birth of a female child), as well as a complete immersion bathing of the woman., as well as complete cleansing of bed linens, clothing.
* Nothing whatsoever says or hints that Mary or Joseph did not adhere to the purification requirements of a woman with blood issue or after the birth of a child.
* Nothing whatsoever says or hints that Mary was Thereafter barren, but expressly indicated her FIRST born, implying more thereafter.
* Nothing whatsoever says or hints that Mary or Joseph, opposed, rejected Gods command for husbands and wives to multiply.
Jesus intimated to learn about Him from Him, through a childs’ eyes, which is to say, without preconceived notions.
Don’t be one knocking saying Lord, Lord, Did’t I USE your Name, to preach a Mary, Mary, Mary, agenda, and teach repeatedly against the Bible...
fundamentalism is spiritual blindness anarchy and chaos
the church is well ordered with the authority of Christ
the true church has always believed and taught these doctrines to all men as Christ commanded Matt 28:19
fundamentalism is spiritual blindness anarchy and chaos
the church is well ordered with the authority of Christ
the true church has always believed and taught these doctrines to all men as Christ commanded Matt 28:19
how do you know what the Bible says?
where does it say what is and what not scripture?
where does it say not to hear the church?
where does it say you have authority to interpret scripture?
Do Christians have spiritual fathers?
what is the second commandment from scripture alone please?
fundamentalism is spiritual blindness anarchy and chaos
the church is well ordered with the authority of Christ
the true church has always believed and taught these doctrines to all men as Christ commanded Matt 28:19
You violate the 2nd commandment every-time you pray to or depend on Mary.
fundamentalism is spiritual blindness anarchy and chaos
how do you know what the Bible says?
where does it say what is and what not scripture?
where does it say not to hear the church?
LOLwhere does it say you have authority to interpret scripture?
Do Christians have spiritual fathers?
what is the second commandment from scripture alone please?
And also as Catholics have not honestly admitted that the worship of Mary is an integral part of Roman Catholicism. Salve Regina should suffice to tell you that you are lying. And all the statues of Mary all over the world contradict your statement.
Salve, Regina
Salve, Regina, mater misericordiae;
Vita, dulcedo et spes nostra salve.
Ad te clamamus, exsules filii Hevae.
Ad te suspiramus, gementes et flentes
in hac lacrimarum valle.
Eia ergo, advocata nostra,
illos tuos misericordes oculos ad nos converte.
Et Jesum, benedictum fructum ventris tui,
nobis post hoc exsilium ostende.
O clemens, o pia, o dulcis Virgo Maria.
Queen, mother of mercy:
our life, sweetness, and hope, hail.
To thee do we cry, poor banished children of Eve.
To you we sigh, mourning and weeping
in this valley of tears.
Turn then, our advocate,
those merciful eyes
toward us.
And Jesus, the blessed fruit of thy womb,
after our exile, show us.
O clement, O loving, O sweet
Virgin Mary.
To designate Mary as Queen of Heaven is to elevate her to the status of God. The Bible says that there is only ONE Advocate and Mediator between God and men -- the Man Christ Jesus.
Are you nuts?
Most people were not illiterate until the 20th century in the US and Europe.
Speaking of illiteracy, what is "Faith comets by hearing not reading" supposed to mean? It's terrible English!
Additionally, that is exactly what your propagandist priests want you to believe! Don't believe by reading God's word for yourself! Believe only what your priests tell you! Propaganda!!!
matt 28:19
and I use an iphony lol and it don’t like old English so it changes it and if I’m in a hurry (I do have a full time job) I may not catch every single one
In praise of Mary!
More you praise the Mona Lisa the more you are praising Leonardo de Vinci!
Do you really think he would be upset to see you paying so much attention to his masterpiece?
Mary is God’s masterpiece!
All love honor reverence or devotion given to Mary is given to God who created her, and Christ who endowed Her “full of grace” Lk 1:28
Praise of Mary and the saints redounds to the Glory of Who created them, Lk 1:49 to Christ who redeemed them, and to the Holy Spirit who sanctified them with graces obtained by the merits of Christ! Source of Grace is Christ! Jn 1:16-17
Mary is only queen cos Jesus is king!
mary can only be mother of God cos Jesus is God!