Iran vs Israel | Gog and Magog War?

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With Israel and Iran in a slugfest today, it’s interesting that no premillennialist here has raised a thread about it. I also noticed on YouTube that, with Iran on the losing side, the premillennialists are waiting for Russia to get involved before they start making videos about the possible "alternative view" of Gog and Magog. I found this quite amusing. They got the Gog and Magog interpretation all wrong! This has nothing to do with modern nations of Israel, Russia, Iran, Turkey, and of course, to some Preterists and Amillennialists, first-century Jerusalem.

 

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With Israel and Iran in a slugfest today, it’s interesting that no premillennialist here has raised a thread about it. I also noticed on YouTube that, with Iran on the losing side, the premillennialists are waiting for Russia to get involved before they start making videos about the possible "alternative view" of Gog and Magog. I found this quite amusing. They got the Gog and Magog interpretation all wrong! This has nothing to do with modern nations of Israel, Russia, Iran, Turkey, and of course, to some Preterists and Amillennialists, first-century Jerusalem.

Personally I'm not expecting the Gog/Magog ground invasion to come right now.

I'm thinking that Iran is going to not be able to withstand Israel, and will initiate a proxy war with all the terrorist surrounding Israel. Israel will defeat them, and annex their lands, as described in Obadiah. With Iran subdued, and their terrorist neighbors gone, it will seem like Peace and Safety.

After that, I'm thinking that the ground invasion comes, as God drags Iran, and those with them, with a hook to the mountains of Israel to be destroyed.

There has been a longstanding discussion over whether Magog is Russia, Turkey, or another region.

I could have started a thread, but why? So everyone can bicker about it? We'll see soon enough I think.

Much love!

 

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Personally I'm not expecting the Gog/Magog ground invasion to come right now.

I'm thinking that Iran is going to not be able to withstand Israel, and will initiate a proxy war with all the terrorist surrounding Israel. Israel will defeat them, and annex their lands, as described in Obadiah. With Iran subdued, and their terrorist neighbors gone, it will seem like Peace and Safety.

After that, I'm thinking that the ground invasion comes, as God drags Iran, and those with them, with a hook to the mountains of Israel to be destroyed.

There has been a longstanding discussion over whether Magog is Russia, Turkey, or another region.

I could have started a thread, but why? So everyone can bicker about it? We'll see soon enough I think.

Much love!

Not surprised.

You still are looking at wrong players thinking there will be physical invasion upon nation Israel. This is NOT what God prophesied about at all.

Much Wisdom in Christ.

 

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Not surprised.

You still are looking at wrong players thinking there will be physical invasion upon nation Israel. This is NOT what God prophesied about at all.

Much Wisdom in Christ.

No, this has been clearly prophesied. Yes, there will be a ground invasion, which God will destroy.

Certainly you are familiar with this prophecy?

Ezekiel 38:1-10 KJV
1) And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
2) Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,
3) And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:
4) And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:
5) Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:
6) Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.
7) Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them.
8) After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.
9) Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee.
10) Thus saith the Lord GOD; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought:

Much love!

 

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The war involving Gog and Magog happens after the second coming, and after the thousand years and that army surrounds Jerusalem and is burned by a fire that comes from God in heaven.

None of those events have happened yet and cannot happen since the second coming hasn't happened.

 

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No, this has been clearly prophesied. Yes, there will be a ground invasion, which God will destroy.

No, not according to carnal mind. You need WISDOM of Christ to discern what He talked about . You may read Ezekiel 38:1-10 below...

Certainly you are familiar with this prophecy?

Ezekiel 38:1-10 KJV
1) And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
2) Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,
3) And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:
4) And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:
5) Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:
6) Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.
7) Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them.
8) After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.
9) Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee.
10) Thus saith the Lord GOD; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought:

But the real question is, do you really understand this? Have you studied what they wear? What is the mountains of Israel in thte New Testament? God is not talking about war in the Middle East with these nations coming down on Isarel again. YOu are looking at the wrong place and lack spiritual understanding, which is why you really need is....

Much love!

Much WISDOM!

 

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The war involving Gog and Magog happens after the second coming

Nope. The final spiritual battle of Gog and Magog will come upon New Testament congregaiton of Israel, all over the world, as a judgment upon His unfaithful congregaiton RIGHT BEFORE the Second Coming.

and after the thousand years

The thousand years were already here... since the Cross. There will be no future 1,000 years of physical kingdom in the Middle East as you think!

and that army surrounds Jerusalem

What Jersualem is this on this side of the Cross? A physical city in the Middle East, or symbolically the Church with spiritual Jews (Christians) fighting spiritual Gentiles (heathen and false prophets and christs). Humm?

and is burned by a fire that comes from God in heaven.

What fire is it? And upon whom, exactly? Russian soldiers and their tanks? Or the Professed Christians and their false doctrines? Think carefully.

None of those events have happened yet

Well, it is happening now. If you have spiritual discernment.

and cannot happen since the second coming hasn't happened.

It does, and it means the seventh trumpet (last trump) and Christ's coming are very near.

 

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It does, and it means the seventh trumpet (last trump) and Christ's coming are very near.

Which of course is very similar to another false doctrine that believes a coming of Christ is also very near, Pretrib. Both doctrines are wrong. We are not near the second coming because the trib has to happen first.

 

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Which of course is very similar to another false doctrine that believes a coming of Christ is also very near, Pretrib. Both doctrines are wrong. We are not near the second coming because the trib has to happen first.

My doctrine is similar to the Pre-tribulation? LOL!!!

You have no clues with what I believe the Scripture talked about.

 

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My doctrine is similar to the Pre-tribulation? LOL!!!

Yes, very similar.