Is “Easter” in the original Scriptures?

[ScottA]

It's a wonderful thing to to celebrate Jesus rising from the dead as long as we aren't calling it the name of a pagan celebration.

That is not sound reasoning.

Is gold not gold regardless of who owns it?

Christ has overcome the world.

 

[Bob Estey]

It's a wonderful thing to to celebrate Jesus rising from the dead as long as we aren't calling it the name of a pagan celebration.

For most of us, "Easter" means "Jesus rising from the dead." Is there a need for us to learn the origins of every word we use?

 

[Dan Clarkston]

For most of us, "Easter" means "Jesus rising from the dead." Is there a need for us to learn the origins of every word we use?

For some "gay" means happy so I dare you to go around in public telling everyone how "gay" you are today.

The point is, God does not call the resurrection of Jesus Christ "easter"

Those that don't really care what the Lord thinks might call it something else other than Passover which is what the resurrection is as we are justified by His resurrection causing the Lord's wrath to not be applicable to us.

Romans 8:14 indicates that those being led by the Holy Spirit are the sons of God

That is not sound reasoning.

Calling something a name associated with pagan rituals is what is not sound reasoning.

Unless one doesn't mind associating themselves with pagan rituals which makes demons happy.

 

[marks]

but I'm of a mind that there are no essential Bible doctrines that depend on disputed textual accuracies/inaccuracies.

I've found this to be true myself.

Much love!

 

[marks]

Today, for Christians, Easter is the celebration of Jesus Christ rising from the dead.

And apparently some do not believe that God is able to guide His children in what they should and should not do.

Much love!

 

[marks]

and we don't see Jesus or the Apostles doing it.

We don't see the Apostles drinking water, so I guess we shouldn't think they did. Right?

Much love!

 

[marks]

God didn't command me to watch a basketball game yesterday, but I did anyhow.

I've never read in the Bible that the Apostles watched basketball. Be warned!!

 

[Aunty Jane]

You say "mix pagan gods...", but there is no mix. To "overcome" is not a "mix", but is a takeover or makeover. Not as a continuation of things unchanged, but changed.

What part of “touch nothing unclean” and “get out from among them” do you not understand? (2 Cor 6:14-18) We are not told to Christianize paganism, but to make sure that our faith is not contaminated or corrupted by it. How many drops of poison would it take for you to refuse a glass of poisoned water?

The Christian message appeals to an honest heart only if it is authentic….not watered down, and not given a “makeover” because what’s underneath has not changed at all. The change is purely cosmetic.

Is that not the same principle of salvation, or even the new heaven and earth?

No way is it even close….mankind are judged by how well they keep themselves clean from false worship, not how close they can get to it by calling it something else.

The “new heaven and the new earth” are not literal as there is nothing wrong with either one in the physical sense…..they were created perfect, as were the beings placed here to make sure it stayed that way. God will yet fulfill his purpose for them….(Isa 55:11)….but only after he has dealt with the rebellion that the devil caused.

“The new heavens” are the ruling authority (God’s heavenly Kingdom) that will take redeemed mankind back into reconciliation with their Creator….cleansed when satan and his crowd were evicted, prior to Jesus return to “separate the sheep from the goats”, and to judge mankind. (Rev 12:7-12) We are now experiencing the devil’s ‘short period of anger’…..he is out to take as many down with him as he can.

”The new earth” will be their subjects…also cleansed by the blood of Christ, so that all who remain will have proven their faith through these difficult last days and kept false worship out of their lives to the end. (Matt 24:13)

Adopting what God hates because it is dressed up to look pretty is like Eve looking at the forbidden fruit and seeing only what she wanted to see…..it looked delicious…..and the devil had ‘disarmed the bomb’, convincing her that ‘she would not die’……she then justified taking a bite…..and kaboom!…..But it was a time bomb….

It is... But then again, many who do not clearly understand, also advocate for glorifying the flesh, rather than all things becoming new in spirit, as God himself is spirit.

Ah….but many do understand what you apparently do not. And that is, that disobedience never achieves God’s sanction or blessing, no matter how well you disguise it. God was there and saw the originals that you say were “taken over”….but if he said “dont touch”…..there is another ‘bomb’ waiting to explode if we do. It too is a time bomb. Most won’t anticipate the result until it goes off in their face with a stinging rejection from our appointed judge. He will tell those ones….. “I never knew you! Get away from me you workers of lawlessness”….(Matt 7:21-23)

Whether we are among them depends entirely on our strict obedience to God and the teachings of his son in all things. We all need to take a good look at what we accept as truth.

 

[TheHC]

It's a wonderful thing to to celebrate Jesus rising from the dead as long as we aren't calling it the name of a pagan celebration.

Yes, that’s a problem! Pure things can easily be contaminated.

If you add a rotten apple to a bag of pure apples, the pure ones don’t make the rotten apple pure; the rotten one ruins the good ones.

Putting mud in pure water, only dirties the water, and makes it undrinkable….it doesn’t purify the mud.

 

[Bob Estey]

For some "gay" means happy so I dare you to go around in public telling everyone how "gay" you are today.

The point is, God does not call the resurrection of Jesus Christ "easter"

Those that don't really care what the Lord thinks might call it something else other than Passover which is what the resurrection is as we are justified by His resurrection causing the Lord's wrath to not be applicable to us.

Romans 8:14 indicates that those being led by the Holy Spirit are the sons of God





Calling something a name associated with pagan rituals is what is not sound reasoning.

Unless one doesn't mind associating themselves with pagan rituals which makes demons happy.

For most Christians, "Easter" means "Jesus rising from the grave." I would think everyone else understands that.

 

[Bob Estey]

And apparently some do not believe that God is able to guide His children in what they should and should not do.

Much love!

God gives us a free will.

 

[Bob Estey]

I've never read in the Bible that the Apostles watched basketball. Be warned!!

Could you provide me with a list of things the Bible tells me I CAN do?

 

[ScottA]

What part of “touch nothing unclean” and “get out from among them” do you not understand? (2 Cor 6:14-18) We are not told to Christianize paganism, but to make sure that our faith is not contaminated or corrupted by it. How many drops of poison would it take for you to refuse a glass of poisoned water?

The Christian message appeals to an honest heart only if it is authentic….not watered down, and not given a “makeover” because what’s underneath has not changed at all. The change is purely cosmetic.

No way is it even close….mankind are judged by how well they keep themselves clean from false worship, not how close they can get to it by calling it something else.

The “new heaven and the new earth” are not literal as there is nothing wrong with either one in the physical sense…..they were created perfect, as were the beings placed here to make sure it stayed that way. God will yet fulfill his purpose for them….(Isa 55:11)….but only after he has dealt with the rebellion that the devil caused.

“The new heavens” are the ruling authority (God’s heavenly Kingdom) that will take redeemed mankind back into reconciliation with their Creator….cleansed when satan and his crowd were evicted, prior to Jesus return to “separate the sheep from the goats”, and to judge mankind. (Rev 12:7-12) We are now experiencing the devil’s ‘short period of anger’…..he is out to take as many down with him as he can.

”The new earth” will be their subjects…also cleansed by the blood of Christ, so that all who remain will have proven their faith through these difficult last days and kept false worship out of their lives to the end. (Matt 24:13)

Adopting what God hates because it is dressed up to look pretty is like Eve looking at the forbidden fruit and seeing only what she wanted to see…..it looked delicious…..and the devil had ‘disarmed the bomb’, convincing her that ‘she would not die’……she then justified taking a bite…..and kaboom!…..But it was a time bomb….

Ah….but many do understand what you apparently do not. And that is, that disobedience never achieves God’s sanction or blessing, no matter how well you disguise it. God was there and saw the originals that you say were “taken over”….but if he said “dont touch”…..there is another ‘bomb’ waiting to explode if we do. It too is a time bomb. Most won’t anticipate the result until it goes off in their face with a stinging rejection from our appointed judge. He will tell those ones….. “I never knew you! Get away from me you workers of lawlessness”….(Matt 7:21-23)

Whether we are among them depends entirely on our strict obedience to God and the teachings of his son in all things. We all need to take a good look at what we accept as truth.

Don't patronize me while you make things that are not gods out to be gods!

It is finished with you, or it's not. Even so, in Christ "It is finished."

You speak for yourself.

 

[ScottA]

Yes, that’s a problem! Pure things can easily be contaminated.

If you add a rotten apple to a bag of pure apples, the pure ones don’t make the rotten apple pure; the rotten one ruins the good ones.

Putting mud in pure water, only dirties the water, and makes it undrinkable….it doesn’t purify the mud.

Those things are true in this world, but not in Christ.

In Christ "It is finished", and that chasm now crossed guarded with flaming swords, lies between the things of this world and those who are His.

 

[marks]

Whether we are among them depends entirely on our strict obedience to God and the teachings of his son in all things. We all need to take a good look at what we accept as truth.

Here's something you've written I completely agree with:

We all need to take a good look at what we accept as truth.

You had just said,

Whether we are among them depends entirely on our strict obedience to God and the teachings of his son in all things.

Was it actually your intent to proclaim salvation earned by obedience? I wasn't aware you thought that.

Much love!

 

[ScottA]

Calling something a name associated with pagan rituals is what is not sound reasoning.

Unless one doesn't mind associating themselves with pagan rituals which makes demons happy.

You speak as one unguarded and vulnerable, as one relying upon a law, rather than on Christ, in whom "It is finished."

Warn those that are perishing, and stop offending these little ones "in Christ."

 

[Dan Clarkston]

We don't see the Apostles drinking water, so I guess we shouldn't think they did. Right?

The physical body cannot survive without water so because they were living we know they drank water.

For most Christians, "Easter" means "Jesus rising from the grave." I would think everyone else understands that.

Since easter can from pagan rituals, some assume you are pagan when you tell them you celebrate easter just like some will think you are a homosexual if you tell them you are very gay today.

You speak as one unguarded and vulnerable, as one relying upon a law, rather than on Christ, in whom "It is finished."

Warn those that are perishing, and stop offending these little ones "in Christ."

OK, thanks for the advice pagan ritual guy
.

 

[Aunty Jane]

Don't patronize me while you make things that are not gods out to be gods!

We can make “gods” out of anything that takes God’s place in our lives….
Phil 3:17-20…Paul wrote…
”Unitedly become imitators of me, brothers, and keep your eye on those who are walking in a way that is in harmony with the example we set for you. 18 For there are many—I used to mention them often but now I mention them also with weeping—who are walking as enemies of the torture stake of the Christ. 19 Their end is destruction, and their god is their belly, and their glory is really their shame, and they have their minds on earthly things. 20 But our citizenship exists in the heavens, and we are eagerly waiting for a savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ”….

It is finished with you, or it's not. Even so, in Christ "It is finished."

What was finished? What did Christ mean when he said that?
His mission was completed and his imminent death would release mankind from Adamic sin and its consequences….that is what was “finished”.
What lay ahead for his disciples was by no means “finished”…it had only begun. (John 15:18-21)

You speak for yourself.

On the contrary I speak for many….I believe it is you who speak for yourself….who are your brotherhood? With whom do you meet for regular worship? (Heb 10:24-25) Is there a global brotherhood who share your views? Or are they exclusively your own?

Only you can answer that. There are no Christians in isolation….you must belong to a global Christian family.
Christ said that the witness his disciples would give, would be “to the most distant part of the earth”….

And ”in every nation the man who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him.” (Acts 10:34-35)
There can be no disagreement among Christ’s genuine disciples. (1 Cor 1:10) Disunity is the absence of God’s spirit…which unifies his worshippers into “one” with him and his son.

 

[Aunty Jane]

Here's something you've written I completely agree with:

How wonderful!

We all need to take a good look at what we accept as truth.

You had just said,

Whether we are among them depends entirely on our strict obedience to God and the teachings of his son in all things.

Was it actually your intent to proclaim salvation earned by obedience? I wasn't aware you thought that.

Obedience to the Creator as our Sovereign has been a requirement from God since the beginning.

Obedience from the devil would have meant that there was no disobedience on the part of the woman. He targeted her to get to the man.……it was she who then enticed the man into the same course….resulting in God having to take measures to keep his first purpose for the human race on track.

He sent his son to undo what the devil had accomplished by giving him a free hand in tempting all humans to disobey God….even Jesus was subjected to his temptations, which as a human he could well have surrendered to, but his relationship with his Father was too strong and he could not be overreached by selfish choices, like Adam and his wife succumbed to.

Obedience would have prevented the woman from setting off that chain reaction in the first place.
So rather than obedience being classified as “works”…..it stands alone as the only requirement that God established, right from the start of human existence. It was quite simple…’obey and live…disobey and lose the gift of life’. (Not rocket science) They were the only choices Adam had. It was his actions that plunged the human race into sin and death…..the woman wasn’t the cause of man’s woes…Adam was because as family head, it was his decision to eat of the fruit that condemned all of his children. (Rom 5:12)

No one can earn salvation by their own works, but no one can be saved without them either…..”faith and works“ are both required. (James 2:18-26) You cannot have one without the other…..Abraham was cited as an example of works backing up his faith.

 

[Bob Estey]

Since easter can from pagan rituals, some assume you are pagan when you tell them you celebrate easter just like some will think you are a homosexual if you tell them you are very gay today.

Jesus rising from the grave didn't come from a pagan ritual. It comes from the Bible.