KingJ
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Godhead implies.....there is a ''Godhead''. It is Jesus in the Godhead. He has all the power of the Godhead. Just as God the Father does. Ie There is God the Father. There is God the Son. There is God the Holy Spirit.ZebraHug said:The way to see the Trinity is like a marriage? I'd like to see the Scripture for that one please . . . ??
Haha. Of course power was given. To who? It was given to the man Christ Jesus, but that man was also the Almighty God who already had All Power.
You know what's really mad? It's this 'madness' that the Jews kept tripping over, and it's this 'madness' that the Greeks call foolish, just as you do now.
1Co 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
1Co 1:24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
The Jews were looking for a different Messiah, which is why they stumbled. And the Greeks called it foolish because they always thought carnally, creating the heavenly family, who sent down someone to earth etc. The Trinity is man's futile attempt to make something that was miraculous explainable. We can't explain how God, the Almighty, could someone fuse himself into the flesh, but we know it happened.
You say that no Trinitarian sees Jesus as inferior? Of course not! But I right now i wish there was a Unitarian here who could show you the error of the Trinity doctrine. If you make Jesus ONLY the Son, you DENY HIS SUPREME DEITY. Look through the Bible and tell me what you see. I see a Son who was SENT. I see a Son who had to PRAY. I see someone who had to EAT, SLEEP, and DRINK! I see a Son who DIED!! Is that God??? No!!! Stop kidding yourself. There is ONE way that you can make Jesus God. Make him ALL of God, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost.
The Godhead (deity) is IN Jesus, not Jesus in the Godhead.
Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Jesus isn't IN the Godhead. He IS the Godhead.
You are taking one side and ignoring the other. Whilst Meshak in the other thread is taking the other side and ignoring yours. I am taking both and putting them together... ^_^.
Side 1. Three separate beings. Jesus prays to the Father. The Holy Spirit descends on Jesus like a dove. Jesus will sit next to the Father.
Side 2. All three comprise the God-head. As you correctly quoted, Col 2:9 Jesus is God. The Father is God. The Holy Spirit is God.
Side 3. They are three and yet one. The BEST example to draw a parallel to this, that we have, is marriage! Mark 10:8 and the two will become one flesh.' So they are no longer two, but one flesh ..... It is the only ''sane'' example of the trinity. If God can make two into one flesh, surely three can be one spirit.
Yes, I agree the ''given'' was out of context with my use. Jesus had all power.ZebraHug said:Haha. Of course power was given. To who? It was given to the man Christ Jesus, but that man was also the Almighty God who already had All Power.