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The word "christian" in the Greek (christianos - NT:5546) simply means 'a follower of Christ'.
The term Χριστιανός ("christianos") literally means "little Christs", and was originally meant to be derogatory. We turned an insult into a badge of honor.

Think about it. When people look at you, do they see Christ?

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I have been to numerous so-called 'churches' and different brands and kinds of Christianity. I've only been in one "assembly", the correct term, which was even remotely close to a New Testament "assembly" of Jesus.

In New Testament assemblies, people spoke or sang as they were so moved. There was no sermon, no planned program; everything was spontaneous and Jesus was the leader, not some liar with a cemetery degree.
No sermon in the New Testament meetings of Christians? What was the message Paul gave at Troas:

(Act 20:7) Now on the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul, ready to depart the next day, spoke to them and continued his message until midnight.
 
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Paul never speaks of "doctrine". The Greek simply means teaching; there is good teaching and false teaching. There is no such thing as "doctrines" in the New Testament, which is about true and false, right and wrong human behavior, freedom and abundant living, not religious nonsense.
Paul often speaks of doctrine:

Rom_6:17 But God be thanked that though you were slaves of sin, yet you obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine to which you were delivered.
Rom_16:17 Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause divisions and offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid them.
Eph_4:14 that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting,
1Ti_1:3 As I urged you when I went into Macedonia—remain in Ephesus that you may charge some that they teach no other doctrine,
1Ti_1:10 for fornicators, for sodomites, for kidnappers, for liars, for perjurers, and if there is any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine,
1Ti_4:6 If you instruct the brethren in these things, you will be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished in the words of faith and of the good doctrine which you have carefully followed.
1Ti_4:13 Till I come, give attention to reading, to exhortation, to doctrine.
1Ti_4:16 Take heed to yourself and to the doctrine. Continue in them, for in doing this you will save both yourself and those who hear you.
1Ti_5:17 Let the elders who rule well be counted worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in the word and doctrine.
1Ti_6:1 Let as many bondservants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honor, so that the name of God and His doctrine may not be blasphemed.
1Ti_6:3 If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which accords with godliness,
2Ti_3:10 But you have carefully followed my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, love, perseverance,
2Ti_3:16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,
2Ti_4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers;
 
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The term means "little Christs", and was originally meant to be derogatory. We turned an insult into a badge of honor.

Think about it. When people look at you, do they see Christ?

1Corinthians11-1.png

That above idea of course is a lie.


1 Peter 4:16
16 Yet if any man suffer as a
Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.
KJV


NT:5546
Christianos (khris-tee-an-os'); from NT:5547; a Christian, i.e. follower of Christ:
KJV - Christian.
(Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright © 1994, 2003, 2006, 2010 Biblesoft, Inc. and International Bible Translators, Inc.)
 
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Here's a different take from What does "Christian" mean (Acts 11:26)?

All these Greek terms, formed with the Latin suffix -ianus, exactly as the Latin words of the same derivation, express the idea that the men or things referred to, belong to the person to whose name the suffix is added. In Greek as in Latin the suffix -ianus is a substitute for the possessive genitive... The term Καισαριανοί corresponds to the ellipse Καίσαρος (Caesaris servus [“a slave of Caesar”]) in other documents. The “Christians” belong to Christ, they are οί τοῦ χριστοῦ [“those of Christ”] as Paul says.​

Christians are “those of Christ” (οἱ τοῦ Χριστοῦ) (i.e., “Christ’s); they belong to Christ, as his possessions, because Christians are “slaves of Jesus Christ” (δοῦλοι Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ). Of course, this is why Jesus Christ is known as our “lord,” or Greek κύριος, literally “master” (as in slave-master). Therefore, the words Christianus and Χριστιανός imply slavery. For this reason, these words were applied to Christians by non-Christians as a derogatory epithet, for the condition of servitude (slavery) was ignominious. However, believers in Christ cherished the epithet because it was a honor to be slaves of Christ, unlike other masters.​
 

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Strongs Concordance

1319. διδασκαλία didaskalia did-as-kal-ee'-ah

from 1320; instruction (the function or the information):doctrine, learning, teaching.

1322. διδαχή didache did-akh-ay'

from 1321; instruction (the act or the matter) doctrine, hath been taught.
The Greek means teaching or instruction, which is the same thing. Doctrine is a Middle English rendering that is not spoken in modern English. Doctrine has a religious tone, the New Testament does not and is written in secular Koine Greek.
 

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That above idea of course is a lie.


1 Peter 4:16
16 Yet if any man suffer as a
Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.
KJV


NT:5546
Christianos (khris-tee-an-os'); from NT:5547; a Christian, i.e. follower of Christ:
KJV - Christian.
(Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright © 1994, 2003, 2006, 2010 Biblesoft, Inc. and International Bible Translators, Inc.)
I never said that term "christian" isn't in the Bible. I said Christianity as a religion isn't in the Bible. Modern Christianity isn't remotely the same as what Peter wrote or any other biblical author wrote. Jesus doesn't equal Christianity any more than Trump equals Truth.
 

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The Greek means teaching or instruction, which is the same thing. Doctrine is a Middle English rendering that is not spoken in modern English. Doctrine has a religious tone, the New Testament does not and is written in secular Koine Greek.
Koine Greek has words for doctrine, primarily using two related nouns derived from the verb didaskō (διδάσκω), which means "to teach".

The above is from Google AI. It reiterates the Strong's Concordance entry I posted above.


I copied your post to see if it was plagiarized. No,it was not.

However,it is full of errors.

See below as to what Google AI discovered.

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the paragraph contains several linguistic errors and historical inaccuracies
that you should correct if you plan to use it. [1, 2]

Fact-Checking the Claims
  • Claim 1: "The Greek means teaching or instruction, which is the same thing."
    • Status: True. The roots of didachē and didaskalia literally translate to teaching or instruction. [1, 2, 3]
  • Claim 2: "Doctrine is a Middle English rendering that is not spoken in modern English."
    • Status: ❌ False. While "doctrine" entered English during the Middle English period (via Old French and Latin), it is absolutely spoken and used in modern English today (e.g., "foreign policy doctrine," "Christian doctrine"). [1]
  • Claim 3: "Doctrine has a religious tone, the New Testament does not..."
    • Status: ❌ Highly Inaccurate. The New Testament has an explicitly religious, theological, and spiritual tone. It is a collection of sacred texts dedicated to faith, worship, and theology. [1]
  • Claim 4: "...and [the New Testament] is written in secular Koine Greek."
    • Status: Partially True, but Misleading. Koine Greek was the standard, "common" marketplace language of the secular Roman world. However, the New Testament writers used this secular language to express highly sacred, religious ideas. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

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The original Koine Greek terms simply mean "teaching" or "instruction." While the word "doctrine" carries a heavy, formalized theological weight in modern English, the New Testament was written in the common, everyday language of the first-century Mediterranean world. Consequently, the original text emphasizes the practical act of instructing people rather than the enforcement of rigid dogmatic frameworks.
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Koine Greek has words for doctrine, primarily using two related nouns derived from the verb didaskō (διδάσκω), which means "to teach".

The above is from Google AI. It reiterates the Strong's Concordance entry I posted above.


I copied your post to see if it was plagiarized. No,it was not.

However,it is full of errors.

See below as to what Google AI discovered.

(Start)
the paragraph contains several linguistic errors and historical inaccuracies
that you should correct if you plan to use it. [1, 2]

Fact-Checking the Claims
  • Claim 1: "The Greek means teaching or instruction, which is the same thing."
    • Status: True. The roots of didachē and didaskalia literally translate to teaching or instruction. [1, 2, 3]
  • Claim 2: "Doctrine is a Middle English rendering that is not spoken in modern English."
    • Status: ❌ False. While "doctrine" entered English during the Middle English period (via Old French and Latin), it is absolutely spoken and used in modern English today (e.g., "foreign policy doctrine," "Christian doctrine"). [1]
  • Claim 3: "Doctrine has a religious tone, the New Testament does not..."
    • Status: ❌ Highly Inaccurate. The New Testament has an explicitly religious, theological, and spiritual tone. It is a collection of sacred texts dedicated to faith, worship, and theology. [1]
  • Claim 4: "...and [the New Testament] is written in secular Koine Greek."
    • Status: Partially True, but Misleading. Koine Greek was the standard, "common" marketplace language of the secular Roman world. However, the New Testament writers used this secular language to express highly sacred, religious ideas. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Suggested Rewrite
If you want to keep the original writer's underlying concept but make it factually accurate and professionally polished, you can use this instead:


If you are using this for a specific project, please let me know:
  • Is this for an academic paper or a personal blog?
  • Do you want to expand on how translation shifts alter the meaning of scripture?
I can help you adjust the tone to perfectly fit your needs! (End)
Greek "didaskalias"; simply means teaching or "instruction" in Greek. The Greek translated as "doctrine" has no special religious connotation or significance. For example, "sound doctrine" is correctly translated as "sound teaching" or "sound instruction". The insistence of continuing to use "doctrine" in most modern bibles and sermons implies an orthodox religious context where none is likely intended.
 

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Greek "didaskalias"; simply means teaching or "instruction" in Greek. The Greek translated as "doctrine" has no special religious connotation or significance. For example, "sound doctrine" is correctly translated as "sound teaching" or "sound instruction". The insistence of continuing to use "doctrine" in most modern bibles and sermons implies an orthodox religious context where none is likely intended.
In your contempt for what you call modern Christianity, you fail to understand that doctrine or teaching in the Bible definitely has a special religious/spiritual significance. It does not mean instruction in secular, materialistic things. It means teaching about God and godly behavior.

The word doctrine is used in secular contexts, so the word does not always carry a religious connotation when used outside the biblical context.

The Bush Doctrine refers to the foreign policy principles developed by the George W. Bush administration after the 9/11 terrorist attacks.
 

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Here's a different take from What does "Christian" mean (Acts 11:26)?

All these Greek terms, formed with the Latin suffix -ianus, exactly as the Latin words of the same derivation, express the idea that the men or things referred to, belong to the person to whose name the suffix is added. In Greek as in Latin the suffix -ianus is a substitute for the possessive genitive... The term Καισαριανοί corresponds to the ellipse Καίσαρος (Caesaris servus [“a slave of Caesar”]) in other documents. The “Christians” belong to Christ, they are οί τοῦ χριστοῦ [“those of Christ”] as Paul says.​

Christians are “those of Christ” (οἱ τοῦ Χριστοῦ) (i.e., “Christ’s); they belong to Christ, as his possessions, because Christians are “slaves of Jesus Christ” (δοῦλοι Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ). Of course, this is why Jesus Christ is known as our “lord,” or Greek κύριος, literally “master” (as in slave-master). Therefore, the words Christianus and Χριστιανός imply slavery. For this reason, these words were applied to Christians by non-Christians as a derogatory epithet, for the condition of servitude (slavery) was ignominious. However, believers in Christ cherished the epithet because it was a honor to be slaves of Christ, unlike other masters.​
The term "christian" in the Bible, is not remotely the same as modern Christianity. True religion that is acceptable to God is defined in James 1:27, which again, is not remotely the same as modern Christianity.
 

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That above idea of course is a lie.


1 Peter 4:16
16 Yet if any man suffer as a
Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.
KJV


NT:5546
Christianos (khris-tee-an-os'); from NT:5547; a Christian, i.e. follower of Christ:
KJV - Christian.
(Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright © 1994, 2003, 2006, 2010 Biblesoft, Inc. and International Bible Translators, Inc.)
The term "christian" in the Bible, is not remotely the same as modern Christianity. True religion that is acceptable to God is defined in James 1:27, which again, is not remotely the same as modern Christianity.
 

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The term Χριστιανός ("christianos") literally means "little Christs", and was originally meant to be derogatory. We turned an insult into a badge of honor.

Think about it. When people look at you, do they see Christ?

1Corinthians11-1.png
Actually, it is unknown what the term "christian" originally meant, but it appears to have been a derogatory slur, similar to the "N" word in modern day America. The term "christian" in the Bible, is not remotely the same as modern Christianity. True religion that is acceptable to God is defined in James 1:27, which again, is not remotely the same as modern Christianity.
 

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In your contempt for what you call modern Christianity, you fail to understand that doctrine or teaching in the Bible definitely has a special religious/spiritual significance. It does not mean instruction in secular, materialistic things. It means teaching about God and godly behavior.

The word doctrine is used in secular contexts, so the word does not always carry a religious connotation when used outside the biblical context.

The Bush Doctrine refers to the foreign policy principles developed by the George W. Bush administration after the 9/11 terrorist attacks.
The modern term "religion" is a very loaded word and means different things to different people. If by "religious", you mean someone who depends on God to help them, then Jesus is the most religious person who ever lived. If by "religion", you mean Christianity, Buddhism, Islam or some other organized religion, then Jesus is the least religious person in history; Jesus deliberately ate, drank and associated with some of the worst thought of people of his time, while railing against the religious leaders of his society, as he undoubtedly would today if he physically walked the streets of modern-day America or Europe.
 

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Koine Greek has words for doctrine, primarily using two related nouns derived from the verb didaskō (διδάσκω), which means "to teach".

The above is from Google AI. It reiterates the Strong's Concordance entry I posted above.


I copied your post to see if it was plagiarized. No,it was not.

However,it is full of errors.

See below as to what Google AI discovered.

(Start)
the paragraph contains several linguistic errors and historical inaccuracies
that you should correct if you plan to use it. [1, 2]

Fact-Checking the Claims
  • Claim 1: "The Greek means teaching or instruction, which is the same thing."
    • Status: True. The roots of didachē and didaskalia literally translate to teaching or instruction. [1, 2, 3]
  • Claim 2: "Doctrine is a Middle English rendering that is not spoken in modern English."
    • Status: ❌ False. While "doctrine" entered English during the Middle English period (via Old French and Latin), it is absolutely spoken and used in modern English today (e.g., "foreign policy doctrine," "Christian doctrine"). [1]
  • Claim 3: "Doctrine has a religious tone, the New Testament does not..."
    • Status: ❌ Highly Inaccurate. The New Testament has an explicitly religious, theological, and spiritual tone. It is a collection of sacred texts dedicated to faith, worship, and theology. [1]
  • Claim 4: "...and [the New Testament] is written in secular Koine Greek."
    • Status: Partially True, but Misleading. Koine Greek was the standard, "common" marketplace language of the secular Roman world. However, the New Testament writers used this secular language to express highly sacred, religious ideas. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Suggested Rewrite
If you want to keep the original writer's underlying concept but make it factually accurate and professionally polished, you can use this instead:


If you are using this for a specific project, please let me know:
  • Is this for an academic paper or a personal blog?
  • Do you want to expand on how translation shifts alter the meaning of scripture?
I can help you adjust the tone to perfectly fit your needs! (End)
You can see what I've written about the Bible at these two links:

www.FreedomTracks.com/revolution.html

www.FreedomTracks.com/revolutionb.html
 

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That above idea of course is a lie.


1 Peter 4:16
16 Yet if any man suffer as a
Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.
KJV


NT:5546
Christianos (khris-tee-an-os'); from NT:5547; a Christian, i.e. follower of Christ:
KJV - Christian.
(Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright © 1994, 2003, 2006, 2010 Biblesoft, Inc. and International Bible Translators, Inc.)
The term "christian" in the Bible, is not remotely the same as modern Christianity. True religion that is acceptable to God is defined in James 1:27, which again, is not remotely the same as modern Christianity.
 

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IS christanity mentioned in the bible . Well if one means this inclusive ecmeincal christainity i do see
fillng up tons of churches ., THE ANSWER IS YES .
its mentioned under the section , FALLING AWAY .
 

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Greek "didaskalias"; simply means teaching or "instruction" in Greek. The Greek translated as "doctrine" has no special religious connotation or significance. For example, "sound doctrine" is correctly translated as "sound teaching" or "sound instruction". The insistence of continuing to use "doctrine" in most modern bibles and sermons implies an orthodox religious context where none is likely intended.

Did you copy this from a dictionary or an AI tool?

The format is a bit weird, and you used the inflected form didaskalias instead of the root noun didaskalia.
Besides, the New Testament writers absolutely used that word to talk about divine instruction vs human traditions, so it definitely carries religious weight in proper context.
 

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Here's a different take from What does "Christian" mean (Acts 11:26)?

All these Greek terms, formed with the Latin suffix -ianus, exactly as the Latin words of the same derivation, express the idea that the men or things referred to, belong to the person to whose name the suffix is added. In Greek as in Latin the suffix -ianus is a substitute for the possessive genitive... The term Καισαριανοί corresponds to the ellipse Καίσαρος (Caesaris servus [“a slave of Caesar”]) in other documents. The “Christians” belong to Christ, they are οί τοῦ χριστοῦ [“those of Christ”] as Paul says.​

Christians are “those of Christ” (οἱ τοῦ Χριστοῦ) (i.e., “Christ’s); they belong to Christ, as his possessions, because Christians are “slaves of Jesus Christ” (δοῦλοι Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ). Of course, this is why Jesus Christ is known as our “lord,” or Greek κύριος, literally “master” (as in slave-master). Therefore, the words Christianus and Χριστιανός imply slavery. For this reason, these words were applied to Christians by non-Christians as a derogatory epithet, for the condition of servitude (slavery) was ignominious. However, believers in Christ cherished the epithet because it was a honor to be slaves of Christ, unlike other masters.​
The modern term "religion" is a very loaded word and means different things to different people. If by "religious", you mean someone who depends on God to help them, then Jesus is the most religious person who ever lived. If by "religion", you mean Christianity, Buddhism, Islam or some other organized religion, then Jesus is the least religious person in history; Jesus deliberately ate, drank and associated with some of the worst thought of people of his time, while railing against the religious leaders of his society, as he undoubtedly would today if he physically walked the streets of modern-day America or Europe.
 

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thus i am sure most of you already know my solution . bible up and lets learn about JESUS for ourselves .
cause this chrisetndom of ecumeincal inclusivity intefaith
ITS THE FALLING AWAY and the TIME SURE HAS COME when they no longer endure SOUND DOCTRINE
but rather heap to themselves men that say HEY LETS FOCUS ON WHAT WE HAVE IN COMMON , NOT ON DOCTRINE .