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Is it OK to blaspheme the Trinity?

Discussion in 'Community Member Helpdesk' started by Illuminator, Nov 12, 2020.

  1. ByGraceThroughFaith

    ByGraceThroughFaith Well-Known Member

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    I repeat what I said earlier. No one is a true Christian who rejected the Holy Trinity. It is impossible
     
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    I judge myself as IN BETWEEN Wrangler and ByGraceThroughFaith on the Trinity issue
     
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    Hemlock Active Member

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    mmmmm...
     
  4. ByGraceThroughFaith

    ByGraceThroughFaith Well-Known Member

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    What does the Bible say
     
  5. Heart2Soul

    Heart2Soul Spiritual Warrior Staff Member

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    In our conversation I asked you to define "true" Christian.
    It is necessary for me to understand why you use this term and how you came to this belief.
     
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    Heart2Soul Spiritual Warrior Staff Member

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    Exactly....what you said about the forum is an opinionated statement with heavy condemnation on those who own it. I for one, am very grateful for this forum. The people I have met here have been a tremendous blessing to me. I wouldn't speak anything against it because I have been very blessed to have found such wonderful fellowship.
     
  7. Hemlock

    Hemlock Active Member

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    I don't really think I exhibited "heavy condemnation" on the people who own/run this forum. I had pointed out that this forum was at a turning point of turning into a Trinity-bashing forum like Theology Forums.com, or becoming a Trinity-supporting forum like ChristianForums.com - but I imagine this board will be neither extreme. I do not consider myself to be "speaking against" those who own this forum in any way whatsoever.
     
  8. ByGraceThroughFaith

    ByGraceThroughFaith Well-Known Member

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    I wonder why those who own this forum allow those who blaspheme the God of the Bible and the Holy Trinity
     
  9. Hemlock

    Hemlock Active Member

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    BGTF - your statement seems to be missing something
     
  10. Wrangler

    Wrangler Well-Known Member

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    ... Despite it not being an explicit Biblical teaching.

    I just follow Jesus, read devotedly, pray incessantly, love God and others and spread the Good News by being all things to all people so that through me, some might be saved. However, what doctrines you hold to condemn me for not sharing supports name calling, e.g., not a 'true Christian', so be it. For not submitting to this doctrine, I've been called by fellow saints, not even a Christian. And more than that, not merely the anti-Christ but the devil incarnate!

    It's one thing to discuss doctrine and learn from each other, such as the 300 page OSAS thread. However, when God's children resort to name calling, it does not bring salt and light to attract those who might otherwise be saved.

    As someone said, this demonstrates that the doctrine of the trinity does not bring forth the fruit of the Spirit - and by their fruit you shall know them. Said differently, what authorizes you to condemn God's children to the Lake of Fire? You betray your name for your writings show you to be ByCondemnationThroughSelf-Righteousness. Your lack of humility reveals a Spirit not from God.
     
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  11. ByGraceThroughFaith

    ByGraceThroughFaith Well-Known Member

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    I will NEVER apologise for Bible Truth ever even if all are offended
     
  12. Hemlock

    Hemlock Active Member

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    Ole COOL HAND LUKE was not a Jew, @Wrangler, and he wrote a good chunk of the New Testament (Luke-Acts).

    And I don't know who wrote Job or whether he was a Jew.
     
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    Heart2Soul Spiritual Warrior Staff Member

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    ByGraceThroughFaith Well-Known Member

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    so why are people still allowed to rubbish and mock and degrade, and deiny and blaspheme The Holy Trinity on this board, and keep doing so even when I have reported those for doing so?
     
  15. Heart2Soul

    Heart2Soul Spiritual Warrior Staff Member

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    I am not going to continue having a debate/discussion with a personal belief of scripture without scripture.
    I am kindly asking again that
    1. Define "true" Christian
    2. Supply your scripture to support your theology.
    3. Be respectful with your rapport.
    4. I was raised in a church that taught the Holy Trinity, I have not heard any preacher preach otherwise. This forum is the first time I have come across those who oppose it.
    5. Could my church be wrong...yes as any church.
    This thread is old and newcomers come in and want to it rehash the same argument all over again.
    I am saved by the Blood of Jesus who died for my sins and then was resurrected on the 3rd day...I confess He is the only begotten Son of God, born of the virgin Mary.
    I believe in the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.
    I fear God and declare He is a Sovereign God....and most of all He is my Abba/Father.
     
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    Not an answer to my question.

    It is not Bible truth to presume authority to condemn fellow believers.
     
  17. Wrangler

    Wrangler Well-Known Member

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    I think Luke was an apostate Jew. Even so, 1 out of 66 does not make the rule. :)
     
  18. Hemlock

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    Luke the apostate Jew.

    I see.
     
  19. ByGraceThroughFaith

    ByGraceThroughFaith Well-Known Member

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    I repeat from our conversation:

    The Bible says there is only ONE Divine Being, God. The Bible also says, that there are Three distinct Persons Who are called Yahweh, which is Almighty God. Without the Teaching of the Holy Trinity, explain this?
     
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    MatthewG Well-Known Member

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    Why do people love this topic so much?

    God is not a person a human being. God is a spirit, Consuming Fire, and is love.
    God was in and through Jesus Christ - > whom was the expressed image of the invisible God. The disciples whom seen Jesus Christ - seen God's character by and through God's Son. (The Fathers Son).
    The Holy Spirit is not a human being. A spirit is not a human like flesh and bones.
    The Word of God is the Word of God - IT is not a person.... until The Word Became a person ` which was born in Flesh and dwelt among earth. The Word then being born was named Jesus. Jesus Christ was baptized and the holy spirit of God came upon the Lord. Jesus Christ and God were One. People Could see Jesus Christ and see the nature of God by and through Him -> Jesus never sinned.
     
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