Is it possible to lose salvation?

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The question is , was it evil for them
to adhere to the law . NO .
SO why then did they fail . THEY SOUGHT RIGHTEOUSNESS by THE WORKS OF THE LAW , NOT BY FAITH .
GOD ordained them to walk in good works
That has NOT CHANGED .
What did change was , GOD NOW GIVETH the SPIRIT to all who DO beleive on JESUS
and BY HIM they are HIS created WORKMAN SHIP to DO THOSE GOOD WORKS that GOD BEFORE ordained .
SEEKING RIGHTEOUSNESS , NOT by their works
BUT BY FAITH IN JESUS THE CHRIST ALONE . FAITH IN JESUS .
Yes and true faith in Jesus will do His works, which are His commandments.
Saving faith is the faith that works the new testament commandments of God,
2Thessalonians 1:8,
- in flaming fire taking vengeance on them that no not God and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ
 
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JESUS does keep the sheep . I know this my friend.
Guess how GOD WORKS , CHRIST WORKS to keep HIS sheep safe and from falling .
THROUGH the SPIRIT .
GUESS what the SPIRIT does , IT unctions and reminds the sheep daily .
Guess HOW the SPIRIT also works
THE SAME as it did through paul , through peter
REMINDING THE CHURCH to continue , to flee evil. The SPIRIT filled ones
would have Rebuked , corrected , warned , kept and followed THE very pattern JESUS first set
and later the apostles had kept and taught . What the SPIRIT wont do
is try and warn those who warn others and remind others about continuing in HIM
about exhorting one another daily lest ONE do become hardened through the deceitfulness of sin
AS NOT HAVING FAITH OR TRUST IN JESUS . NO SIR the SPIRIT DONT DO that , but OSAS SURE DOES .
REMOVE any part of HIS pattern , including warnings and reminders
AND that is a people THAT WILL GO DOWN HILL . Hope that helps .
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JESUS does keep the sheep . I know this my friend.

Great!

Guess how GOD WORKS , CHRIST WORKS to keep HIS sheep safe and from falling .
THROUGH the SPIRIT .

Yup. Exactly.

GUESS what the SPIRIT does , IT unctions and reminds the sheep daily .

John 14:26, 16:13 and 1 Corinthians 2:10-16.

Guess HOW the SPIRIT also works
THE SAME as it did through paul , through peter
REMINDING THE CHURCH to continue , to flee evil.

There's no need for me to guess. I know quite well how the Spirit works now and how he worked in the Early Church.

What the SPIRIT wont do
is try and warn those who warn others and remind others about continuing in HIM
about exhorting one another daily lest ONE do become hardened through the deceitfulness of sin
AS NOT HAVING FAITH OR TRUST IN JESUS . NO SIR the SPIRIT DONT DO that , but OSAS SURE DOES .

??? I can't make much sense of what you've written here. It sounds like you're having a rant against OSAS, but it's not clear on what basis. I believe in the doctrine of OSAS clearly taught in Scripture but I've many times exhorted myself and others about sin from Hebrews 3:13 and many other passages of Scripture. And I've never urged a fellow believer not to have trust in Jesus, though I hold to OSAS very firmly. So, it's very... odd what you're asserting in the quotation above, not comporting with my own experience as a proponent of OSAS, as it does.

REMOVE any part of HIS pattern , including warnings and reminders
AND that is a people THAT WILL GO DOWN HILL . Hope that helps .

Well, as far as I understand you, I don't have any quibble with what you've written except that bit just before this one above. And it's always helpful to hear the truth from fellow believers.
 

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I've already explained why this is false
:Laughingoutloud:




No, it doesn't

Sure it does.




No, I "examine" whether or not the person is in the faith

Judge not! Remember that old tired excuse started by the OSAS cult? :funlaugh2




Faith itself is a work, John 6:28-29

Yes it is one of the good works God ordained mankind to walk in

Ephesians 2:10
For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
 

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Is it possible to lose salvation?

Yes.

Salvation is a Bought and Paid For Gift Offered to manKIND to Take.

If you do Not TAKE the Gift, you Forfeit / Lose the Gift Offered For you To you.

Glory to God,
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Is it possible to lose salvation?

Yes.

Salvation is a Bought and Paid For Gift Offered to manKIND to Take.

If you do Not TAKE the Gift, you Forfeit / Lose the Gift Offered For you To you.

Glory to God,
Taken

But the OSAS false doctrine claims once you take the gift you can never lose the gift even if you were to go live in sin it's all good!

In other words they say you can live after the flesh (sin) and not die spiritually.

That's the devil's message as we see in the garden where he said they could sin against God and not die spiritually

The devil has this same message all along and today he's using the OSAS crowd to spread his message.
 

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Great!



Yup. Exactly.



John 14:26, 16:13 and 1 Corinthians 2:10-16.



There's no need for me to guess. I know quite well how the Spirit works now and how he worked in the Early Church.



??? I can't make much sense of what you've written here. It sounds like you're having a rant against OSAS, but it's not clear on what basis. I believe in the doctrine of OSAS clearly taught in Scripture but I've many times exhorted myself and others about sin from Hebrews 3:13 and many other passages of Scripture. And I've never urged a fellow believer not to have trust in Jesus, though I hold to OSAS very firmly. So, it's very... odd what you're asserting in the quotation above, not comporting with my own experience as a proponent of OSAS, as it does.



Well, as far as I understand you, I don't have any quibble with what you've written except that bit just before this one above. And it's always helpful to hear the truth from fellow believers.
many within Osas that camp have come against the warnings and reminders .
That is what i meant . But heck that is all over it seems In many regaurdless .
We are witnessing the upticking of a massive falling away .
And what many , who for years hollered the judge not haters , dont seem to realize is
THIS JUDGE NOT correct not LED TO THE LEAVEN buliding up and taking over many churches .
I mean even some people can still see and even say , MY Goodness evil took over many churches ,
AND YET STILL LIP judge not correct not to those who still correct . Its like insanity .
I just wanna shake them KINDLY and say HEY buddies THIS JUDGE NOT correct not pattern yall keep holding too
IS WHAT CAUSED the downfall of said places . IF we dont buckle down and get busy
correcting all sin and error
YES even NAMING by nameS the false teachers , THEN its all going down .
Tis time to get grave again .
TIME to be serious again .
AND TIME to stop allowing things that DISHONOR GOD to get taught and praticed IN them churches .
THIS generation is and has been so decieved into this lets not offend stuff
And do anything and everything to pander to men
THEY FORGOT , THE NUMBER ONE we are not to OFFEND was TOBE GOD , CHRIST .
But they dont seem to care one bit HE is being dishonored . ITS JUST JUDGE NOT , JUDGE
Not and the leaven keeps increasing .
 
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many within Osas that camp have come against the warnings and reminders .
That is what i meant . But heck that is all over it seems In many regaurdless .
We are witnessing the upticking of a massive falling away .
And what many , who for years hollered the judge not haters , dont seem to realize is
THIS JUDGE NOT correct not LED TO THE LEAVEN buliding up and taking over many churches .
I mean even some people can still see and even say , MY Goodness evil took over many churches ,
AND YET STILL LIP judge not correct not to those who still correct . Its like insanity .
I just wanna shake them KINDLY and say HEY buddies THIS JUDGE NOT correct not pattern yall keep holding too
IS WHAT CAUSED the downfall of said places . IF we dont buckle down and get busy
correcting all sin and error
YES even NAMING by nameS the false teachers , THEN its all going down .
Tis time to get grave again .
TIME to be serious again .
AND TIME to stop allowing things that DISHONOR GOD to get taught and praticed IN them churches .
THIS generation is and has been so decieved into this lets not offend stuff
And do anything and everything to pander to men
THEY FORGOT , THE NUMBER ONE we are not to OFFEND was TOBE GOD , CHRIST .
But they dont seem to care one bit HE is being dishonored . ITS JUST JUDGE NOT , JUDGE
Not and the leaven keeps increasing .
@amigo de christo
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