Is it right for a Christian to hold a Bible in one hand and a doobie in the other?

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I am not for legalising such at all, I am on about licencing such, if you don't have a licence you are going to be busted. it's about doing the right thing and educating people and you will get society back on track, no more dark ages stuff with people having to hide, creating a backward moron culture of idiots.
Our society will not come back towards ethics, morals, values, right and wrong etc..... it is continually going in the opposite direction. All the education in the world will not change the moral declining of our nation. The world gets worse not better as the 2nd Coming draws near. They will make more unholy things legal as we approach the end.

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Our society will not come back towards ethics, morals, values, right and wrong etc..... it is continually going in the opposite direction. All the education in the world will not change the moral declining of our nation. The world gets worse not better as the 2nd Coming draws near. They will make more unholy things legal as we approach the end.

hope this helps !!!

Actually...
Morality levels tend to swing like a pendulum several times before going back to the lack of them.

It requires decades...and leadership.
Someone that has a clear, strong voice and reason.

When leadership is truly moral and supports strong morality from clear guidelines then everyone tends to follow suit.

Israel's history of good and immoral kings shows us that this happens.

The sheer volume of wretched kings before Hezekiah had led the nation into moral decay and acceptance of immorality to a certain measure. Until Hezekiah had become the king...and he didn't stand for a bit of it. He dumped it all... even the "historical" pieces of immorality.

And there's something to be said that.

Even followers of God/Christ can be immoral with the judgmental and holier-than-thou attitudes... same practices of violence, abuse, and dominance but with a different excuse.

But it is easier to live a productive lifestyle in a moral society than an immoral one.

The "Dark Ages" came from living in a highly legalistic society...one that presumed that all writing was "of the devil".
But then we came out of it to finally get to the Rennaisance where empirical data and Science ruled.
The church lost its power but all the nation's engaged in a Holier-than-thou contest by trying to show that they were tougher on sin than their neighbors...which was still going on in the US when it was being founded.
 

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We license Everything in the manner of the video I shared above.

The lizard brain vx cognitive reasoning...
We can overcome the lizard brain by not feeding it and overcoming it regularly.
It's called self discipline.
 

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Actually...
Morality levels tend to swing like a pendulum several times before going back to the lack of them.

It requires decades...and leadership.
Someone that has a clear, strong voice and reason.

When leadership is truly moral and supports strong morality from clear guidelines then everyone tends to follow suit.

Israel's history of good and immoral kings shows us that this happens.

The sheer volume of wretched kings before Hezekiah had led the nation into moral decay and acceptance of immorality to a certain measure. Until Hezekiah had become the king...and he didn't stand for a bit of it. He dumped it all... even the "historical" pieces of immorality.

And there's something to be said that.

Even followers of God/Christ can be immoral with the judgmental and holier-than-thou attitudes... same practices of violence, abuse, and dominance but with a different excuse.

But it is easier to live a productive lifestyle in a moral society than an immoral one.

The "Dark Ages" came from living in a highly legalistic society...one that presumed that all writing was "of the devil".
But then we came out of it to finally get to the Rennaisance where empirical data and Science ruled.
The church lost its power but all the nation's engaged in a Holier-than-thou contest by trying to show that they were tougher on sin than their neighbors...which was still going on in the US when it was being founded.
I'm saying this not to discuss the issues but just as examples of what I was talking about. Abortion and a marriage defined between a man and a woman are irreversible IMHO. Those have now become the law.
 

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We license Everything in the manner of the video I shared above.

The lizard brain vx cognitive reasoning...
We can overcome the lizard brain by not feeding it and overcoming it regularly.
It's called self discipline.
The lizard brain, i understand.
Self discipline is essential...direction...purpose....all lead by God.
Our enemy is immortal and he is a schemer. God is real and Satan is real.
He likes the low hanging fruit. The weak, the young, the inexperienced.
He likes setting up schemes that give him the most bang for the buck.
But he also has the patience for the slow developing evil in generations and societies. A form of evil that would cover the globe.
Its not just the hate blood and gore.
Its the mother that lays down to let a monster kill her baby.
Its the mother that sends her kids out to deliver drugs.
But it is also about distracting and neutralizing and immobilizing people that could otherwise do so much for God and others. Make something of themselves.
Don't get me wrong I do not hate technology, it is not a monster or an alien, but just like drugs technology can take over a person.
Satan's method is something like the movie the Invasion of the body snatchers. People constantly staring at their Smart Phones or TV. There attention robbed from them. Their focus controlled...One day they look around and they are 45 years old and realize what they really missed.
The old phrase was "a monkey on your back" but their was a sci-fi book years ago that was made into a movie called The Puppet Masters, and it also stared Donald Sutherland. It was about an alien organism that would attach itself high on the back and connect to the brain and control people.
Now drugs are not aliens, but functionally they work that way. They creep and they control. The first thing a drug does is set up an alternate reality, a pleasing and enjoyable reality. Then it redefines your priorities. Then it sets up a perimeter of defense. It alienates anyone that cares for you and makes them enemies. For those that abuse drugs, they are made to believe that they know the real and their parents are stupid and their way of thinking went out with the horse and buggy. It sets up a purpose and a plan for new and better highs of euphoria. The circle of friends they have are based on common interests in drugs. Their jobs cannot interfere with the drug use. Their politics are all about legalization of drugs ...nothing else really matters...they are lead to believe that law and order is oppression. They desire anarchy, they do not want anyone telling them that they are doing wrong...they want the drug culture to be the social standard. They may believe in God but they want God to stay in the Bible and not interfere with their alternate reality. God is the warm and fussy, but the morals are just static in their head.

What do we do for these Christians. Lead by example? They are here on this forum. It is a skill to reach them. When you talk about morals, they see that as hate, they see that as division, they see that as divisiveness. They want peace, they want everyone to have one of these things on there back and be one in this alternate reality. The thing that has attached to their brain does not want to be reasoned with. When you watch the videos of these mobs and someone tries to reason with them, the thing commands them to just scream in their face. Do not allow them to speak the truth.

Its been going on for a long time...the numbers have grown...they are more bold. Now they are willing to attack, loot, burn, and murder. Our elections have been running neck and neck for years. The party they vote for may support the murdering of babies, lawlessness, godlessness, and communism, put if that political party supports drugs, that is all that matters to the thing on their back. They do not have a mind of their own anymore, just the desire to proliferate their kind.

They are in our schools, teaching our children that believing in God and country is stupid. Teaching our kids that we are stupid and smart is atheism and communism. They teach them to hate authority and anyone that stands up for morals. It does not matter if it is a President or a preacher, they need to keep their mouth shut! One of them on the forum here was kicking at Franklin Graham saying, If he wants to pray, he should do it in a closet...that is what the Bible says! They justify wrong doing and riots...peaceful demonstrations includes murder and murderous riots are their right. We have been in this battle of good and evil for some time now and Satan is shooting for the world. The thing on their back pushes them.

What do we do? For the world? For Christians? For the Christians on this forum?....pray? I pray, but I have never been a spectator in this battle for good and evil. Helping Christians with these problems is not an easy thing. It takes more than one approach. Getting them to talk is one way, but first you have to get them out of their closet, out of their reality. Standing up for morality is a must. Drawing the line, what side of that line do you want to be on and reminding them that one day that God Himself is going to be asking them, why they are on the wrong side of that line. I confront and shake their tree...But the other approach is also important. The softer approach is also good. This is where God stands, do you want to stand with him? We hope good for you, we pray good for you. A lot of this is between them and God and we have to trust that beyond our efforts that God is there for them. They can pull that thing off their back. It is not them. They can pull it off and walk with God. The thing on their back is Satan, he is to blame. Pull it off and God is waiting to forgive you. It is a change of direction. A change of reality. The reality of the real. God Bless.


 
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The lizard brain, i understand.
Self discipline is essential...direction...purpose....all lead by God.
Our enemy is immortal and he is a schemer. God is real and Satan is real.
He likes the low hanging fruit.
He likes setting up schemes that give him the most bang for the buck.
But he also has the patience for the slow developing evil in generations and societies. A form of evil that would cover the globe.
It not just the hate blood and gore.
Its the mother that lays down to let a monster kill her baby.
It the mother that sends her kids out to deliver drugs.
But it is also about distracting and neutralizing and immobilizing people that could otherwise do so much for God and others. Make something of themselves.
Don't get me wrong I do not hate technology, it is not a monster or an alien, but just like drugs technology can take over a person.
Satan's method is something like the movie the Invasion of the body snatchers. People constantly staring at their Smart Phones or TV. There attention robbed from them. Their focus controlled...One day they look around and they are 45 years old and realize what they really missed.
The old phrase was "a monkey on your back" but their was a sci-fi book years ago that was made into a movie called The Puppet Masters, and it also stared Donald Sutherland. It was about an alien organism that would attach itself high on the back and connect to the brain and control people.
Now drugs are not aliens, but functionally they work that way. They creep and they control. The first thing a drug does is set up an alternate reality, a pleasing and enjoyable reality. Then it redefines your priorities. Then it sets up a perimeter of defense. It alienates anyone that cares for you and makes them enemies. For those that abuse drugs, they are made to believe that they know the real and their parents are stupid and their way of thinking went out with the horse and buggy. It sets up a purpose and a plan for new and better highs of euphoria. The circle of friends they have are based on common interests in drugs. Their jobs cannot interfere with the drug use. Their politics are all about legalization of drugs...nothing else really matters...they are lead to believe that law and order is oppression. They desire anarchy, they do not want anyone telling them that they are doing wrong...they want the drug culture to be the social standard. They may believe in God but they want God to stay in the Bible and not interfere with their alternate reality. God is the warm and fussy, but the morals are just static in their head.

What do we do for these Christians. Lead by example? They are here on this forum. It is a skill to reach them. When you talk about morals, they see that as hate, they see that as division, they see that as divisiveness. They want peace, they want everyone to have one of these things on there back and be one in this alternate reality. The thing that has attached to their brain does not want to be reasoned with. When you watch the videos of these mobs and someone tries to reason with them, the thing commands them to just scream in their face. Do not allow them to speak the truth.

Its been going on for a long time...the numbers have grown...they are more bold. Now they are willing to attack, loot, burn, and murder. Our elections have been running neck and neck for years. The party they vote for may support the murdering of babies, lawlessness, godlessness, and communism, put if that political party supports drugs, that is all that matters to the thing on their back. They do not have a mind of their own anymore, just the desire to proliferate their kind.

They are in or schools, teaching our children that believing in God and country is stupid. Teaching our kids that we are stupid and smart is atheism and communism. They teach them to hate authority and anyone that stands up for morals. It does not matter if it is a President or a preacher, they need to keep their mouth shut! One of them on the forum here was kicking at Franklin Graham saying, If he wants to pray, he should do it in a closet...that is what the Bible says! They justify wrong doing and riots...peaceful demonstrations includes murder and murderous riots are their right. We have been in this battle of good and evil for some time now and Satan is shooting for the world. The thing on their back pushes them.

What do we do? For the world? For Christians? For the Christians on this forum?....pray? I pray, but I have never been a spectator in this battle for good and evil. Helping Christians with these problems is not an easy thing. It takes more than one approach. Getting them to talk is one way, but first you have to get them out of their closet, out of their reality. Standing up for morality is a must. Drawing the line, what side of that line do you want to be on and reminding them that one day that God Himself is going to be asking them, why they are on the wrong side of that line. I confront and shake their tree...But the other approach is also important. The softer approach is also good. This is where God stands, do you want to stand with him? We hope good for you, we pray good for you. A lot of this is between them and God and we have to trust that beyond our efforts that God is there for them. They can pull that thing off their back. It is not them. They can pull it off and walk with God. The thing on their back is Satan, he is to blame. Pull it off and God is waiting to forgive you. It is a change of direction. A change of reality. The reality of the real. God Bless.


Like the video and you discuss, it becomes an issue of "them" vx "us".

We don't want to lose our position in the "us" crowd...after all... nobody truly wants to be alone.

And instead of the God who is, we follow one that is similar that we create ourselves.
(Oh how I wish that God liked scotch more than He does)

But the sad and depressing knowledge is that God was always interested, not in the bulk of his creation, but the "netzer" or offshoot.

Meaning about 5-10% of the world...
Maybe about 20-40% of the "church".
There's the truly sad part. Most simply aren't going to make it.

So,
Are we wheat stalks in a tare field or are there just a lot of tares in the wheat field?

Maybe a bit of both.

Wolves amongst the sheep.
We have habits of thinking the best of others...that they are holier than us. But it's getting to the point that it's likely untrue as the wolves outnumber the sheep and it's obvious.
Meaning that a "falling away" is coming.

And we have seen some of the signs of it coming for a while now.
The acceptance and promotion of sinful lifestyles expressly forbidden by scriptures by many denominations. Sure there's many of us who will walk away from such a church; but the ones remaining (if only in spirit) are growing in numbers.
And soon when things get too uncomfortable they will leave in spirit as well.