Rotsen777
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That doesn’t make sense because those passages save no one. God alone is the one who saves; go get your salvation from God, not from the bible.
Is Jesus the Saviour of the whole World?
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amigo de christo
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these were more noble than those in thessalonica
in that They RECIEVED the word and searched the SCRIPTURES daily .........
THEREFORE MANY OF THEM BELEIVED .
TO the scriptures one and all and let no man take your crown through false doctrines of men gone wrong .
amigo de christo
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then why are so many now teaching it dont ma tter in the end if one Believed on JESUS or not .
THAT AINT SALVATION , THAT A FALSE GOSPEL of inclusive univ ersalism .
GET in those bibles e veryone and test all men . LEARN everything JESUS taught
and later the apostels left for us to learn as well .
Todays f olks fo l l ow the wrong love and thus the wrong god .
amigo de christo
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They no like things in that bible sister . And seeing they cannot overcome TRUTH
they gonna find any way possible to make it seem as t hough we who hold to the truth in sciptures
as bibolarty or any other false accusation their minds come up with .
But know this . NO SHEEP would have had a problem with scripture .
They cant overcome the truth thus they gotta make the bible seem as ...........
WELL you fill in the blanks .
They live by emotions and wherever the winds of change do guide them .
Not the sheep . we stick to TRUTH and test all men against TRUTH .
amigo de christo
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Times change
seasons change
and man is always given to change .
But the WORD and words of GOD endure forever . WE sticking to the TRUTH sister .
They find their truth through doctrines of men who are always adapting and changing with the times .
Beebster
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Christ is in us. And he may not be a literal Bible but he is the Word of God. Searching the scriptures teaches us both these truths.
Rotsen777
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Jesus calls on all of us to come and follow Him until the end so that we might have life eternal with Him. Why don’t you ignore those who teach another gospel that saves no one? The real and forever living Christ Jesus is all we need to be saved and to attain eternal life, not the gospel, per se.
How would you test their faith when you’ve not yet heard anything from the Lord Jesus? The bible saves you not either; what would you profit from putting into practice all the things you’ve read and learned in the bible, but continue to ignore Jesus’ call [to all of us] for us to have life?
Rotsen777
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If Christ were in all of us, He would not call all of us to come to and follow Him for our salvation and eternal life.
Jesus is the one who teaches the truth, not the bible as you opine. We need to come and call on the Lord Jesus so that He may teach and guide us to our salvation and eternal life.
Marvelloustime
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Rotsen777
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No matter how we believe the scriptures, that very act of believing the scriptures doesn’t save, nor bring us to the truth.
It's a general word of instruction to the body of Christ, so we are not on our own with it. But it isn't meant to be an intellectual exercise for the carnal mind, but rather through the Spirit to renew our minds and feed, strengthen and build us up in the inner man of our spirit.
Never said those passages save anyone. You questioned something I said, that God saves those who are foreknown by Him, and I posted the scriptures that I had learned it from. And you have no response to that apparently.
In any case I will respond here to how you seem to be questioning Paul and questioning the value of the written word of God:
Eph 2:18-22
For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.
This lets us know that the writings of the old testament prophets as well as writings of the apostles are true to plumb with the cornerstone and form part of the foundation together with Christ and His teachings. They are Truth in other words and can be relied upon as being the word of God….a firm and true foundation to build the temple/habitation of God upon.
We have been brought into a living two-way relationship with the Living God and He certainly is not limited to speaking to us through His written word, as scripture itself affirms, so we likewise should not limit Him…..however, one important benefit of His written word is that we might test what we are hearing/experiencing by it.
We ought not to try and separate the written word from the One from whom it proceeded. Jesus is the Word made flesh. We are to serve in the new way of His Spirit, not the old way of the letter which kills.
Jesus Himself said man does not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God. Paul wrote about the washing of the water of the word to cleanse and sanctify the church thereby.....God's word has a sanctifying effect. The entrance of the word gives light. The bible says the scriptures are able to make one wise unto salvation. His word is a lamp unto our feet and light unto our path on this journey through life. And scripture also says God esteems His word above all His name. So we should not be dismissive of God's word or think we are too far above it to need it.
Eph 5:25-27
Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
"Go get your salvation from God"........yes, but He is not separate from His own word which He Himself breathed.....and the Word was made flesh. God's word is the seed which through the Spirit conceives and gives birth to the new man. We were born again through receiving the word/seed of the gospel into ourselves. Again we shouldn't try to separate the Lord from His Word. We have the parable of the sower and we have the picture of Mary as a figure for the church who received/believed the word spoken to her by the angel and wound up giving birth to the Son of God. There are so many scriptures....I will leave you to do your own homework, which if you care so little for God's word I'm guessing you must be badly in need of doing.
"Is Jesus the Saviour of the whole World?"
ONLY those who believe and serve Him. BILLIONS of humans will burn in Hell Fire FOREVER, Jesus said so!
ONLY those who believe and serve Him. BILLIONS of humans will burn in Hell Fire FOREVER, Jesus said so!
Rotsen777
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Why general instruction, who is your pastor and teacher, btw?
You’re speaking blurred things, who taught you those things???
amigo de christo
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and you wonder why i keep telling you and others to get back into the bible .
GO and look at what you told me .
You wrote
why dont I ignore those who teach another gospel that saves no one .
Now go to and read what GOD told a church
that was doing what you told me to do . to ignore and allow one to seduce his people .
I have this AGAINST YOU
you are ALLOWING that false prophetess to teach and to seduce MY PEOPLE .
And yet you just asked me to do that .
NOPE . i expose them all . No harlot will be allowed to seduce the peoples on my watch .
i see false doctrine , by grace i WILL expose both it and he or she who teaches it .
And if hating false doctrine makes me seem as a hater , then OPEN the bible
THIS you have , that you hATE the deeds of the nicolations , WHICH I ALSO HATE .
AND you WONDER WHY i keep trying to get you all back into the scriptures . your being led astray my friend .
Now lets get back into the scriptures to learn and to be refreshed , be in prayer .
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amigo de christo
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He spoke of this . HE and later the apostels would warn as well .
Todays love a rianbow kiss a koran pope a thon ecumeincial anti christ has BEEN LYING to us all .
Omitting the severity of GOD and recreating a false goodness of God that it calls the love of God .
And folks think satan and his co workers cannot appear cloakede in wool . OH but they can and oh they surely do .
"Is Jesus the Saviour of the whole World?"
Potentially, yes! But Jesus also said only a FEW will be saved.
Beebster
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The Spirit of Life is in all of us. Without out it you would be dead.
I assume you consider yourself a Christian; a follower of Jesus Christ.
Heres what the Word of God, Jesus Christ teaches us.
Jhn 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I IN HIM the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
Yes and again he is the Word of God.
The Bible won't teach you the truth unless you have Holy Spirit to guide you.
You have it reversed.
Jhn 15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.
Eph 4:4-6 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and IN YOU ALL.
Jesus didn't say that. He said that few will be able to enter into the kingdom. Many, however, will be saved. Who do you think the saints will rule over in the next age?
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