St. SteVen
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I know a little Greek...I know a bit of Hebrew....
He owns the gas station on the corner...
Really a good guy, actually.
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I know a little Greek...I know a bit of Hebrew....
I know a little Greek...
He owns the gas station on the corner...
Really a good guy, actually.
Exactly. Easy to understand really.There are a couple of image/concepts that are helpful to get a better 'picture' of the principle of rebirth. For whatever reason, even though scripture is explicit in supplying the example of a seed that has life within it, falls, dies, is planted in the ground and lives again-- that's not the only illustration to point toward.
No!On my rounds of the discussion boards I see that a lot of seemingly intelligent sensible people believe in reincarnation, namely that when we die we're born again as a baby somewhere.
Is there any Biblical scriptural support for it?
Looks like you missed a dozen pages of biblical explanation.No!
Hebrews 9:27
And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment, (not come back as a baby)
I don't need pages and pages to know the answer to reincarnation and where it all started.Looks like you missed a dozen pages of biblical explanation.
And frankly, Hebrews nine is a poor apologetic.
What happens when you add the context of verse 28?
Note the "just as" and "so also" statements.
How is it that people die that is the same as how Christ died and returned to life?
Christ appeared again after death. Where did he appear?
Hebrews 9:27-28 New English Translation
And just as people[a] are appointed to die once, and then to face judgment,[b]
28 so also, after Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many,[c] to those who
eagerly await him he will appear a second time, not to bear sin[d] but to bring salvation.[e]
No!
Hebrews 9:27
And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment, (not come back as a baby)
Yes, absolutely. Great response, thanks.
Some will be offended by this, but The Holy Spirit "overshadowed" Mary. (whatever that means)
I meant no offense, but this is what we are discussing. Can a spiritual being reproduce as humans can?
Where did Jesus come from? Who is the father? Who is the mother? One is God (spiritual) and one is human. (physical)
Therefore, Jesus said there is no marriage in heaven, but is procreation possible in heaven outside of marriage?
Apparently so. Correct me if I am wrong. Thanks.
Therefore, Jesus said there is no marriage in heaven, but is procreation possible in heaven outside of marriage?
Apparently so. Correct me if I am wrong. Thanks.
What you say contradicts explicit Scripture:Where did Jesus come from? Who is the father? Who is the mother? ---- He was born in Bethlehem. His father was Joseph, his mother was Mary- just as scripture inform us.
One is God (spiritual) and one is human. (physical) His father was God in the very same way that God is your father. Our father. This he taught. Scripture says that he (Jesus) was like us in every way... Your thinking is influenced by what you've come to believe in this regard-- that somehow God "fathered" Jesus in some unnatural way.
What you say contradicts explicit Scripture:
Matthew 1:18-21
18 This is how Jesus the Messiah was born. His mother, Mary, was engaged to be married to Joseph. But before the marriage took place, while she was still a virgin, she became pregnant through the power of the Holy Spirit. 19 Joseph, to whom she was engaged, was a righteous man and did not want to disgrace her publicly, so he decided to break the engagement[a] quietly.
20 As he considered this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream. “Joseph, son of David,” the angel said, “do not be afraid to take Mary as your wife. For the child within her was conceived by the Holy Spirit. 21 And she will have a son, and you are to name him Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins.”
If what you're saying is true, why would Joseph want to divorce Mary (or end her bethronement)? IF he fathered Jesus in the natural way, he would know how Mary came to be child. An Angel of the Lord would not have to come and tell him his conception was supernatural.
I only read the title and the OP, nothing anyone said.Grand entrance.
Jesus covered that for us with Nicodemus. That’s not what anyone here is suggesting.
What do you make of this?Where did Jesus come from? Who is the father? Who is the mother? ---- He was born in Bethlehem. His father was Joseph, his mother was Mary- just as scripture inform us.
One is God (spiritual) and one is human. (physical) His father was God in the very same way that God is your father. Our father. This he taught. Scripture says that he (Jesus) was like us in every way. The physical and spiritual are like two sides of a coin, that while they are imprinted on one coin, you can only examine one side at a time. Your thinking is influenced by what you've come to believe in this regard-- that somehow God "fathered" Jesus in some unnatural way.
What do you know about incubus and succubus?Can a spiritual being reproduce as humans can? ---- No.
They still do. They are called rhinos.Then again, with God anything is possible so I cannot authoritatively rule it out just like I can't rule out that unicorns once roamed Earth.
What do you know about incubus and succubus?
This seems to be a lot of assumptions on your part. It is like saying Noah built an ark, but Abraham lived in the ark. None of your points are related to each other in Scripture, but you take the words from the Bible and form your own reality.I disagree again. Angels can leave their first estate and go back to a corrupted body. Free will is always there. Those in the New Heavens and New Earth are free to come back here if they so choose.