Is smoking a sin?
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I have been posting here for months sir, and I find this to be a great site, and most of the posters here have a more sincere desire to discuss and learn about God missing from many religious sites. I notice you are from the midwest, I am from central Illinois, where is your area if you desire to say.
It’s very difficult for us to grasp that it is what comes out of you, the heart, that defiles you. It seems ludicrous to worry over a cigarette rather than lament murdering others.
I agree, and not just murder but also things like intolerance and unforgiveness and other such things.
Why are you capitalizing Lord when referring to Phil 2:11 from the KJV?
In Phil 2 who exalts Jesus?
Who gives him his name?
Who is to receive the glory from confessing that Jesus is Lord?
I think my post answers that.
What do you suppose Paul was doing in applying that passage to Jesus?
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There is no basis for capitalizing Lord in this verse. You are doing so to imply this is referring to the Father’s name. This confusion is the result of removing the Tetragrammaton and replacing it with Adonai. This confusion makes it easier to blur the distinction between the Almighty God and his firstborn Son.
Now, in Phil 2 who exalts Jesus?
Who gives him his name?
Who is to receive the glory from confessing that Jesus is Lord?
Why would God need to be exalted?
What do you suppose Paul was doing in applying that passage to Jesus?
This isn't just some sloppy poetry or something, and Paul was not some ignoramus about the Hebrew Scritpures, or the Hebrew God. You seem to have a difficulty understanding Who YHWH is, it's Jesus, that's Who. If you don't see that, I pray God reveal this to you.
No one has seen God at any time, right? So Who is this YHWH Who ate with Abraham? Conversed with Abraham and Sarah? Who ate with the elders of Isreal? No one has seen God at any time, but Jesus has revealed Him.
It is to YHWH that all will swear. Jesus Christ IS Lord. LORD. YHWH.
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This thread is long already; not sure about the basic premise.
It might be described with the advantage of knowledge now as not very healthy. But anyway Spurgeon the great preacher smoked; in those days it would have seemed to be quite different.
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As I said, even Spurgeon smoked.
It might be described with the advantage of knowledge now as not very healthy. But anyway Spurgeon the great preacher smoked; in those days it would have seemed to be quite different.
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@Pearl I expect your mom would have regarded the debates and heat about smoking today as a bit strange; since for a lot of folk back then just did it naturally and confidently. As you said it likely was simply part of who she was. Lighting up and keeping cigarettes readily to hand is what ppl just innocently did.
As I said, even Spurgeon smoked.
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Yes, from some time ago.
IMO, no smoking is not a sin.
Disbelief is a sin.
Interestingly...for some time, a bandwagon has appeared, anti-smoking, anti-smokers.
IMO - Observing, Scripturally and Historically...IF an Earthly “government” is Strongly Promoting something, anything: in the Big Picture (results and consequences) strong consideration of the complete opposite of what they Promote is most beneficial FOR you.
Anti-Smoking. People, Governments (bans, limited, sky rocket cost)....Whoopie!!!
The smell, ewe, The mess, ewe, The cause of fires, aw, The promoted KILLER Lung disease, fear.
FEAR, ie Govt, promoted, People react, Afraid.
Clinics, Drugs, Pills, Patches, ie Chemical Compounds, Govt approved.
(Transfer of wealth, from People TO barons...ie. Mega Corporations.
(Mega Corporations (barons), control Elections with Wealth. Govt officials, sleep with barons...a puppet, puppet master love affair, and the People, poor, wealth transferred, controlled).
This decades long, Pseudo FEAR plandemic, (pillow talk, between puppet masters and puppets)...endless wars, economy tinkering, loaning invisible worthless paper as money, reaping usury, Poison Injections, under the guise of a Vaccine...offered, freebie, mandated, forced, punished for refusal. (control useful and eliminate useless).
Spoiler; in very brief
(Body has natural nicotinic acetylcholine receptors)
Jabs with poison attacks receptors, People who smoke increase their nicotinic receptors protection, reducing their risk of Jab poison negative effect. Already some studies, people who opted for the Jab, and a smoker, having less complications from the Jab.)
Smoking a sin? No.
@Taken I read that before the American Civil War it was in some places rather widespread for women to be seen smoking after church. (Tell that to today's zealots, right?)
Women smoking, or snuffing, was not as no no as portrayed. It was done among the elite and poor and loose women.
The elite were more “secretive”, because of the “gossip and reputation” that the “loose” were subject to...
The “loose”, openly in public, in mixed company.
The “elite”, quietly in private homes, women in the “sitting room”, men in the “parlor room”.
(And the elite, would gossip about the loose...”public display”...oh so uncouth...lol)
(Kids locked in the cellar....lol joking...kids with the nannies out of sight).
Same with “clothing”... Scantly dressed women in Public...a no, no.
Privately among the “elite” circles okay.
Hollywood, held to and changed much of that...”lewd, in public”... ”glamorous, in private”.
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Frankly, I've never understood the need to judge people by their outward appearance.
My wife's aunt Jeannie was the undisputed saint of her side of the family.
There was quite a turnout for her funeral.
An extraordinary amount of tears there.
She smoked right up until the day she died of cancer.
She believed it was wrong to smoke.
She claimed to be in a right relationship with God.
She went to church.
She made the world a better place in which to live.
You can't argue with a life well-lived.
I don't know whether she'll be saved or not.
It's none of my business.
Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?
My wife and I loved her dearly.
My wife's aunt Jeannie was the undisputed saint of her side of the family.
There was quite a turnout for her funeral.
An extraordinary amount of tears there.
She smoked right up until the day she died of cancer.
She believed it was wrong to smoke.
She claimed to be in a right relationship with God.
She went to church.
She made the world a better place in which to live.
You can't argue with a life well-lived.
I don't know whether she'll be saved or not.
It's none of my business.
Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?
My wife and I loved her dearly.
Whether smoking was not known to be detrimental to one's health "back then" or, as you said, "Spurgeon smoked," does not mean it is NOT a sin. God said "Thou shalt not kill."
How can we understand the word "kill?" Does it mean we could not kill animals for our consumption? No. We all know it means not to take another man's or one own's life! Life is very precious to God. He gives life and only He can take it back.
Did not Satan said to Eve, "you will surely not die?" did Eve die? Not physically right there and then but she did die "spiritually" because of disobedience.
So is smoking a sin? I believe it is. SMOKING IS SELF MURDER!
To God Be The Glory
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