Is Sound Doctrine Essential for Salvation?

[amigo de christo]

Sorry, I don’t understand “ your” lingo....I only understand the “ living “ word of God.

I dont need to figure anything out from you.....the Holy Spirit is my teacher and guide.....

You hope I’m not on the wrong side, what on Earth are you talking about....

You just imo, try and fear monger...I’m not getting into an argument over it.

As I say....” your” lingo...me no understand....I can only understand words that come from the Spirit.

The majority of your posts, I scroll past...as most of the time I believe I am led to....they don’t make sense....to me.

By the way ,I have eternal life, I don’t need to work for it, as I’m Born Again/ Born of God.....permanently saved and in the safe hands of my wonderful saviour....I rest in him and only him.

I don’t listen to any worldly talk.....only talk in the Spirit....as a Born Again has direct contact with God, via the Holy Spirit...who lives in us..we house his Spirit in our bodies.....Praise God.

Then lets make it real simple a child on the pap might be able to understand .
Those who love their sin and yet desire the idea they have salvation will sit under those who do tickle their ears with that false hope .
In other words , those whose love is for money will sit under the PROSPERITY JESUS
those whose love is for their satanic love for same sex will sit under those who wont preach against it and those who also preach it as love .
FIGURED IT OUT YET Rita . IN ORDER for the churches to survive in this world they had to adapt too the change in the world .
WELL I SHUN THEIR DOCTRINES TO HELLL if i had the power to do so . Not them , THEIR ALL INCLUSIVE DOCTRINE .
It flat out makes me sick to my belly . but men and women will do as men and women will do
and humanity will always love that which serves it own desires and interests .
BUT LAMBS LOVE THAT WHICH IS WELL PLEASINGTO GOD . GUESS what , SIN AINT . learn this well .

 

[amigo de christo]

cause do correct me if i am wrong but someone seemed to side with the gays and said
ye would not last five seconds here , they would LYNCH you , which means i would die ,
and this person has zero problem with that . Rather odd though . TWO THINGS
i challenge this person before all to go to every and any post i ever wrote or responded too
and show me THE HATE i preached against them . OH i said it was sin and always will .
IT must be repented of and not rather accepted under a false all inclusive love rainbow .
AND i might add i also challenge this person to see where i ever said or ever encouraged a one of them to be lynched .
AND i might add , IF THEY LOVED GOD and man so much WHY would they even try and lynch their enemies to begin with .
YEAH i marvel not why SOME cannot hear what it is i say .

 

[Ritajanice]

Then lets make it real simple a child on the pap might be able to understand .
Those who love their sin and yet desire the idea they have salvation will sit under those who do tickle their ears with that false hope .
In other words , those whose love is for money will sit under the PROSPERITY JESUS
those whose love is for their satanic love for same sex will sit under those who wont preach against it and those who also preach it as love .
FIGURED IT OUT YET Rita . IN ORDER for the churches to survive in this world they had to adapt too the change in the world .
WELL I SHUN THEIR DOCTRINES TO HELLL if i had the power to do so . Not them , THEIR ALL INCLUSIVE DOCTRINE .
It flat out makes me sick to my belly . but men and women will do as men and women will do
and humanity will always love that which serves it own desires and interests .
BUT LAMBS LOVE THAT WHICH IS WELL PLEASINGTO GOD . GUESS what , SIN AINT . learn this well .

Look,I’ve just said I don’t understand your lingo...don’t force me to hear what you want me to:hear..

Fine...if that’s how you believe.

God is in CONTROL not you.....he is working everything out according to his purpose and plan for this world.

He allows everything to happen for a REASON....

You are not in control ....voice by all means...as i do on the word of God..good day....and watch that blood pressure....

 

[Ritajanice]

cause do correct me if i am wrong but someone seemed to side with the gays and said
ye would not last five seconds here , they would LYNCH you , which means i would die ,
and this person has zero problem with that . Rather odd though . TWO THINGS
i challenge this person before all to go to every and any post i ever wrote or responded too
and show me THE HATE i preached against them . OH i said it was sin and always will .
IT must be repented of and not rather accepted under a false all inclusive love rainbow .
AND i might add i also challenge this person to see where i ever said or ever encouraged a one of them to be lynched .
AND i might add , IF THEY LOVED GOD and man so much WHY would they even try and lynch their enemies to begin with .
YEAH i marvel not why SOME cannot hear what it is i say .

I am not siding with the sin of the gays.

I will be kind and loving to gays as in good morning, and I have neighbours who are gays..I take their dogs for a walk.....and will continue to do so....I am not to judge them....only God can do that....I refuse to show any hatred towards my gay neighbour....but I do not agree with their sin....

 

[amigo de christo]

Look,I’ve just said I don’t understand your lingo...don’t force me to hear what you want me to:hear..

Fine...if that’s how you believe.

God is in CONTROL not you.....he is working everything out according to his purpose and plan for this world.

He allows everything to happen for a REASON....

You are not in control ....voice by all means...as i do on the word of God..good day....and watch that blood pressure....

Blood pressure , its on average about one hundred and ten over seventy .
But it sounds to me , like rather if i came up to visit you and your church of the lovey do
blood pressure is the last thing that would be my concern . MORE LIKE A ROPE about my neck that you would support .
TELL ME rita , WHERE BE THE LOVE IN THAT . THE DARK rainbow cometh of satan and it will
as well will every sin be exposed on my watch . THOUGH believe me i would hang none who refused to believe .
DONT SOUND like they would do the same rita , and worse it sure sounds like those who sat under the satanic version
of what they THINK be love , WOULD EVEN encourge my death . PONDER on that for a bit .

 

[amigo de christo]

I am not siding with the sin of the gays.

I will be kind and loving to gays as in good morning, and I have neighbours who are gays..I take their dogs for a walk.....and will continue to do so....I am not to judge them....only God can do that....I refuse to show any hatred towards my gay neighbour....but I do not agree with their sin....

I show zero hate for anyone . HEY rita exposing sin IS NOT hate . if so what are you gonna tell JESUS himself
as well as the apostels who did so , ON the day of JUDGMENT .

 

[Ritajanice]

Blood pressure , its on average about one hundred and ten over seventy .
But it sounds to me , like rather if i came up to visit you and your church of the lovey do

You are now giving an assumption of my so called lovey do church....

blood pressure is the last thing that would be my concern . MORE LIKE A ROPE about my neck that you would support .
TELL ME rita , WHERE BE THE LOVE IN THAT . THE DARK rainbow cometh of satan and it will
as well will every sin be exposed on my watch . THOUGH believe me i would hang none who refused to believe .
DONT SOUND like they would do the same rita , and worse it sure sounds like those who sat under the satanic version
of what they THINK be love , WOULD EVEN encourge my death . PONDER on that for a bit .

Are you talking about the churches that have gay pastors, lesbian pastors....gay folk in the church?

Is that what your beef is about?

 

[Ritajanice]

I show zero hate for anyone . HEY rita exposing sin IS NOT hate . if so what are you gonna tell JESUS himself
as well as the apostels who did so , ON the day of JUDGMENT .

That’s nice to hear , that you don’t hate anyone...

Only God can expose their sin to them.

Just like he did to you and I....

As I say ,if God has called you to voice so be it.

Only God can save a person from hell....we just need to pray for them, as I do my neighbours...

 

[L.A.M.B.]

cause do correct me if i am wrong but someone seemed to side with the gays and said
ye would not last five seconds here , they would LYNCH you , which means i would die ,
and this person has zero problem with that . Rather odd though . TWO THINGS
i challenge this person before all to go to every and any post i ever wrote or responded too
and show me THE HATE i preached against them . OH i said it was sin and always will .
IT must be repented of and not rather accepted under a false all inclusive love rainbow .
AND i might add i also challenge this person to see where i ever said or ever encouraged a one of them to be lynched .
AND i might add , IF THEY LOVED GOD and man so much WHY would they even try and lynch their enemies to begin with .
YEAH i marvel not why SOME cannot hear what it is i say .

Do not marvel, brother.The message cannot be received in the carnality of sinful flesh, it is perceived as foolishnesss.

I do not say they are out committing sins against the laws of the land, ( theft, murder, fraud, ect.) the laws of decency against their familes, ( adultery, drunkenness, abuse ect ) but I do say it is the sins committed against the commandments and the Spirit of God! ( Jealousies, envies, gossip, contentions, ect)

These are committed against the love of Christ that we are commanded to show. Against the liberty of that love in the despising of the members of the body of Christ !

Let them soothe their own consciences believing the lie that they belong to God. Behaviour expressed by the heart via the mouth shows into whom they belong.....the father of lies; the devil !

Sound doctrine IS essential to a believer of Christ !

 

[amigo de christo]

You are now giving an assumption of my so called lovey do church....

Are you talking about the churches that have gay pastors, lesbian pastors....gay folk in the church?

Is that what your beef is about?

Rita , as much as i love you , your memory aint the best at all . Try and remember what you said about
if i came up and lynching . ring any bells . I mean man i was not trying to name ya , but your memory aint the best .
You accused me of being a hater who spreads hate all over this site
and that if i came up to your area i would not last five minutes and they would lynch me and you would support it .
Do you remember ...................As far as gay pastors or any leaders , THEY OUGHT not to be leaders peroid .
Nor should any who pratice it be allowed to even continue to support it even within the church .
IF any who cliams to believe in JESUS CHRIST is supporting or acting in sin , IT NEEDs to be corrected .
WHICH , believe it or not includes homosexaulity .

 

[amigo de christo]

The simple solution to the ills and errors within christendom is , GET back in the bible for yourself .
Dont try and read it through the glasses of your leaders doctrines . JUST read it for yourself and keep on reading it daily for yourself .
THINGS will clear up in time . never let any tell you that you cannot learn the bible for yourself . Or control you with their doctrines
They will . We must break free from the chains of these denominations and simply relearn the scrips for yourselves .
Things would clear up .

 

[amigo de christo]

That’s nice to hear , that you don’t hate anyone...

Only God can expose their sin to them.

Just like he did to you and I....

As I say ,if God has called you to voice so be it.

Only God can save a person from hell....we just need to pray for them, as I do my neighbours...

GOD works through his own . We must be co helpers to the truth rita .
Men have taught us a lie . a partial truth if you will .
THEY make the true claim that IT IS GOD alone who can convict the person
and then lead us to believe its not up to us to correct those in error .
BUT the truth is IT IS GOD WHO DOES CONVICT , but he uses and works through lambs TO CORRECT those in error .
Pulling them out of the fire , hating even the garment spotted by the flesh
Save some by ....................see . GOD WORKS through the lambs . SO dont let the so called leaders
whose only desire is to keep a job and income and are scared to death to correct , LIE TO YOU .
THEY ARE HIRELINGS who care not for the sheep , they care only about one thing , SURVIVAL IN THIS WORLD .
They go always with the ever changing views of the times . Fearing man and fearing loss . THEY DO NOT CARE FOR YOU
THEY DO NOT CARE FOR ME . THEIR LOVE IS THEIR OWN SURVIVAL .

 

[amigo de christo]

These hirelings care only for what they THINK will work best for them .
THEY DO NOT CARE FOR THE SHEEP . THEY DO NOT CARE FOR YOU THEY DONT CARE FOR ME .
And they have NO DESIRE TO SERVE GOD , only themselves . THEY FEED of the flocks
the very flocks THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN LOOKING OUT FOR , they feed OFF THEM .
THEY DO NOT care for the sheep . JESUS DOES . And those who are truly of CHRIST , now these do care for the sheep .
But these hirelings care about income and survival . THEY store not up for the children , they use to children to store up for THEMSELVES .
THEY GETTING exposed on my watch as well as their WICKED doctrines .

 

[Ritajanice]

Rita , as much as i love you , your memory aint the best at all . Try and remember what you said about
if i came up and lynching . ring any bells . I mean man i was not trying to name ya , but your memory aint the best .
You accused me of being a hater who spreads hate all over this site
and that if i came up to your area i would not last five minutes and they would lynch me and you would support it .
Do you remember ...................As far as gay pastors or any leaders , THEY OUGHT not to be leaders peroid .
Nor should any who pratice it be allowed to even continue to support it even within the church .
IF any who cliams to believe in JESUS CHRIST is supporting or acting in sin , IT NEEDs to be corrected .
WHICH , believe it or not includes homosexaulity .

I can’t believe your “ hypocrisy “..remember what you said to me...Rita deleted our posts, leave me alone..I’m not interested..

Stay on the subject...or you will get this thread locked....thank you.

 

[amigo de christo]

SOUND DOCRTINE MATTERS . FOR who we obey is whose we ARE . SO oh yeah it matters WHO WE FOLLOW .

 

[L.A.M.B.]

Brother @amigo de christo
I'm done in this.
Sound doctrine is not what some ppl want to follow, rather their own understanding or heaping to themselves teachers to tickle their itching ears!

If ppl only know one fact of the whole of God it is not his fault but theirs ! In not applying the study to gain knowledge and wisdom of the word they are like a fish with one fin, going in circles in the water; unable to swim, sitting PREY to those lies !

It ,the truth has been offered, the rejection is on those whom refuse sound doctrine !

In any event enjoyed the talk with the followers of his word even while the naysayers stood on the sideline......lol

 

[Ritajanice]

Matthew 7:15-20

King James Version

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15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them

 

[amigo de christo]

Matthew 7:15-20​

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King James Version​

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15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them

The FRUIT of the wicked is TO SIN .
The FRUIT of the SPIRIT is in all goodness , righteousness and truth proving what is acceptable to GOD , not to society , but TO GOD .
AND SIN aint acceptable to GOD . no matter if the churches try and say certain sins are no longer sins .
Just a friendly reminder . FOR YES , YOU SHALLL INDEED know them BY THEIR FRUITS .

 

[Ritajanice]

The FRUIT of the wicked is TO SIN .
The FRUIT of the SPIRIT is in all goodness , righteousness and truth proving what is acceptable to GOD , not to society , but TO GOD .
AND SIN aint acceptable to GOD . no matter if the churches try and say certain sins are no longer sins .
Just a friendly reminder . FOR YES , YOU SHALLL INDEED know them BY THEIR FRUITS .

Proverbs 16:28-33​

28 A troublemaker plants seeds of strife; gossip separates the best of friends.
29 Violent people mislead their companions, leading them down a harmful path.
30 With narrowed eyes, people plot evil; with a smirk, they plan their mischief.
31 Gray hair is a crown of glory; it is gained by living a godly life.
32 Better to be patient than powerful; better to have self-control than to conquer a city.
33 We may throw the dice, but the LORD determines how they fall.

 

[amigo de christo]

Proverbs 16:28-33​

28 A troublemaker plants seeds of strife; gossip separates the best of friends.
29 Violent people mislead their companions, leading them down a harmful path.
30 With narrowed eyes, people plot evil; with a smirk, they plan their mischief.
31 Gray hair is a crown of glory; it is gained by living a godly life.
32 Better to be patient than powerful; better to have self-control than to conquer a city.
33 We may throw the dice, but the LORD determines how they fall.

and many trouble makers sure have taught doctrines contrary to THE DOCTRINE . they cause divisions contrary to DOCTRINE .
Doctrine does matter . mens nope , but Gods doctrine DO matter . Now let all be encouraged and let us
Get DUG in THE BIBLE .