Is the claim of only one God false? - How many gods are there?

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St. SteVen

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Was wondering the same thing and found this thread. I was reading Micah and he says in 7:18 ‘there is no other God like you’. And I wonder why he wouldn’t say ‘You are the God’ or something to the effect that there is only one. Then I thought about the commandment to ‘worship no other god but me for I am a jealous god and tolerate no rivals’. If He is the only one then the commandment is unnecessary because to worship a god you made up in your head is basically worshipping an idol and that’s a separate commandment
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We recognize the one true God, creator of heaven and earth. Beside Him there should be no other.
Wait, should be?

Doesn't that tell us right there that there are other gods? How many and for what purposes?

How many of these entities in the spiritual realm are there?

In ancient times there was a god for everything. Literally thousands of them.

The sun, all the planets and some of the stars. Agriculture and fertility (human and animal), anything and everything.

- Does the claim of only one God ring true?
- How many gods are there?
- What are they?
- Do they have an effect on our lives today?


The Apostle Paul even used this to his advantage.

Acts 17:22-23 NIV
Paul then stood up in the meeting of the Areopagus and said:
“People of Athens! I see that in every way you are very religious.
23 For as I walked around and looked carefully at your objects of worship,
I even found an altar with this inscription: to an unknown god.
So you are ignorant of the very thing you worship—
and this is what I am going to proclaim to you.

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Despite the belief that there are other gods, including those of joy, rain, power, stars, and whatever else a man may imagine, there is only one God, and that is our Heavenly Father. He is the source of everything.

1 Corinthians 8:1-6 (NKJV) 1 Now concerning things offered to idols: We know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffs up, but love edifies. 2 And if anyone thinks that he knows anything, he knows nothing yet as he ought to know. 3 But if anyone loves God, this one is known by Him. 4 Therefore concerning the eating of things offered to idols, we know that an idol [is] nothing in the world, and that [there is] no other God but one. 5 For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as there are many gods and many lords), 6 yet for us [there is] one God, the Father, of whom [are] all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom [are] all things, and through whom we [live.]
 
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Despite the belief that there are other gods, including those of joy, rain, power, stars, and whatever else a man may imagine, there is only one God, and that is our Heavenly Father. He is the source of everything.
Which gods was the first commandment referring to?

Exodus 20:3 NIV
“You shall have no other gods before[a] me.


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Which gods was the first commandment referring to?

Exodus 20:3 NIV
“You shall have no other gods before[a] me.


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so-called ones…man-made ones
 

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There is ONE God and He has several "roles"/offices/jobs/responsibilities/names

A person can be a grandfather, a father, a son, a farmer all at the same time , but are one person in different roles

Isaiah 9:6 tells us several "roles": of God, of father, son, counselor etc

6) For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.


Jesus is God walking in a flesh body on earth. The Father "role" is in Heaven, Jesus role was on earth at the same time .. different dimensions.

There is One Throne.. One King.. One Lord
There is ONE "spiritual" "Husband" ONLY
One Throne
One King
One Lord

The 1st and 2nd commandments are clear anything other than ONE God is idolatry and adultery against the One Living God

God has several "roles/offices", and can be Father "role" in Heaven in His supernatural body and Son "role" on earth in a flesh body at the same time.. different dimensions.
 

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Jesus completely agreed with the existence of only one God to worship:

John 17:3 This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.
 

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Which gods was the first commandment referring to?

Exodus 20:3 NIV
“You shall have no other gods before[a] me.


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I personally think it lame when Jews refer to idols as God or the Christian is a different God rather than say we misunderstand HIM. Idols are not Gods, and the Samaritans thought they could make models of the life-giving God. [g]ods are supernatural entities, not ideas.

The belief that idols are gods by Jews is shown in the account of the idols of Rachel's father. The Tanakh mistakenly calls the idols gods.
 

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We recognize the one true God,
creator of heaven and earth.

Beside Him there should be no other.
Wait, should be?


Doesn't that tell us right there that there are other gods?
How many and for what purposes?


How many of these entities in the spiritual realm are there?


In ancient times there was a god for everything. Literally thousands of them.

The sun, all the planets and some of the stars. Agriculture and fertility (human and animal), anything and everything.

- Does the claim of only one God ring true?
- How many gods are there?
- What are they?
- Do they have an effect on our lives today?


The Apostle Paul even used this to his advantage.

Acts 17:22-23 NIV
Paul then stood up in the meeting of the Areopagus and said:
“People of Athens! I see that in every way you are very religious.
23 For as I walked around and looked carefully at your objects of worship,
I even found an altar with this inscription: to an unknown god.
So you are ignorant of the very thing you worship—
and this is what I am going to proclaim to you.

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There may have been other gods with Yahavah before creation of earth.

There is a psalm that suggest the possibility.

There are also gods on earth, like god of rock n roll Izzy Osborne fir example.




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    • Judaism and Christianity:
      In the Old Testament, the concept of "God above all gods" is prominent. The first commandment in Exodus 20:3 instructs, "You shall have no other gods before me,". This emphasizes the exclusivity of worship for the God of Israel, who is also described as "the great God, and the great King above all gods" (Psalm 95:3). The New Testament continues this theme, highlighting Jesus Christ as "Lord of lords and King of kings" (Revelation 19:16).
 

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There may have been other gods with Yahavah before creation of earth.

There is a psalm that suggest the possibility.

There are also gods on earth, like god of rock n roll Izzy Osborne fir example.




Ai;
    • Judaism and Christianity:
      In the Old Testament, the concept of "God above all gods" is prominent. The first commandment in Exodus 20:3 instructs, "You shall have no other gods before me,". This emphasizes the exclusivity of worship for the God of Israel, who is also described as "the great God, and the great King above all gods" (Psalm 95:3). The New Testament continues this theme, highlighting Jesus Christ as "Lord of lords and King of kings" (Revelation 19:16).
Yet there are verses like these that explain what those other "gods" are:

“For all the gods of the peoples are idols, But the LORD made the heavens.” (Ps 96:5 NKJV)

“Their idols are silver and gold, The work of men’s hands. They have mouths, but they do not speak; Eyes they have, but they do not see; They have ears, but they do not hear; Noses they have, but they do not smell; They have hands, but they do not handle; Feet they have, but they do not walk; Nor do they mutter through their throat.” (Ps 115:4-7 NKJV)

The notion that such idol-gods were with Jehovah before Creation does not fir with those verses.
 

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Yet there are verses like these that explain what those other "gods" are:

“For all the gods of the peoples are idols, But the LORD made the heavens.” (Ps 96:5 NKJV)

“Their idols are silver and gold, The work of men’s hands. They have mouths, but they do not speak; Eyes they have, but they do not see; They have ears, but they do not hear; Noses they have, but they do not smell; They have hands, but they do not handle; Feet they have, but they do not walk; Nor do they mutter through their throat.” (Ps 115:4-7 NKJV)

The notion that such idol-gods were with Jehovah before Creation does not fir with those verses.
Are you unfamiliar with the Elohim? Or the Divine Council?

Why would God be concerned with idolatry if these other gods were not gods at all?
"... no other gods before me."

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Yet there are verses like these that explain what those other "gods" are:

“For all the gods of the peoples are idols, But the LORD made the heavens.” (Ps 96:5 NKJV)

“Their idols are silver and gold, The work of men’s hands. They have mouths, but they do not speak; Eyes they have, but they do not see; They have ears, but they do not hear; Noses they have, but they do not smell; They have hands, but they do not handle; Feet they have, but they do not walk; Nor do they mutter through their throat.” (Ps 115:4-7 NKJV)

The notion that such idol-gods were with Jehovah before Creation does not fir with those verses.

That is just a perspective. Doesn't mean there was not. Who knows what happened in the beginning. Even the Devil, choose darkness.