IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

[rebuilder 454]

You're still in Daniel and stuck, and am in All Scripture = Holy Bible, the New Testament of Jesus Christ.

Where the Son of GOD determines the prophecy of Daniel which is in part, giving His version in the New Testament.

For He and the church face the fulfillment of Daniel's prophecy. and not Daniel nor the patriarchs, period

Therefore we're not like you who work around the scriptures, but we work with and on the scriptures, 'As it is written' or 'For it is written'.

For example, Daniel prophesy the Great Tribulation is for 7 years, but the Son of GOD who came later prophesy to His church, GOD has shortened it to 3 1/2 years.

Who's greater, Daniel or the Son of GOD?

You sound to us like according to what Apostle Paul mentioned to us about, 'the sneaked in Jews' to our faith.

You're full of vain words and lack of action to the context of the scripture and teaching testaments.

Smh

 

[rebuilder 454]

Yes, thou heretics, where is the scripture quote to justify the underline words above??

Colossians 1:
18. And He is the Head of the body, the church(Jew and Gentile believers): who is the beginning, the firstborn(firstfruit) from the dead((resurrection); that in all things He might have the preeminence.

There's no patriarchs mentioned as the firstborn or firstfruit from the dead with Christ, it's just your 'heresy'!

Give us the Bible verse when did the patriarchs resurrect, or resurrected with Christ as 'firstfruits'??

Give us the Bible verse where is written paradise is under the earth??

When we discern Biblically, graves of dead people buried are under the earth and the patriarchs are 'asleep'.

And paradise described in the beginning was on earth, the garden eastward in Eden where a river went out to water it, and parted hence becoming four common rivers on earth.

And in the garden there is the 'tree of life', where now Cherubims and a flaming sword placed, to keep out anyone from entering. Therefore since, to creature's natural eyes this garden is unseen or in other words, 'invisible'.

It's unlike your own description of paradise under the earth, where probably they're awake and having a ball there while temporarily waiting?

We only have verse, the spirits that rebelled during Noah's time are imprisoned or chained under the earth.

And when Christ was in the heart of the earth, meaning He died and buried, He visited and ministered unto them.

We also read satan will be bound in chain and cast into the bottomless pit for thousand years.

You too stop lying about the Holy Bible and not knowing your brethren!

You lied when you call ANYONE a heretic over non essentials.
You think heaven is on the edge of their seat hoping you get end times sorted out.????

So yes please stop lying about us who challenge you.
Helfire is not my portion.
Stop lying please.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Yes, thou heretics, where is the scripture quote to justify the underline words above??

Colossians 1:
18. And He is the Head of the body, the church(Jew and Gentile believers): who is the beginning, the firstborn(firstfruit) from the dead((resurrection); that in all things He might have the preeminence.

There's no patriarchs mentioned as the firstborn or firstfruit from the dead with Christ, it's just your 'heresy'!

Give us the Bible verse when did the patriarchs resurrect, or resurrected with Christ as 'firstfruits'??

Give us the Bible verse where is written paradise is under the earth??

When we discern Biblically, graves of dead people buried are under the earth and the patriarchs are 'asleep'.

And paradise described in the beginning was on earth, the garden eastward in Eden where a river went out to water it, and parted hence becoming four common rivers on earth.

And in the garden there is the 'tree of life', where now Cherubims and a flaming sword placed, to keep out anyone from entering. Therefore since, to creature's natural eyes this garden is unseen or in other words, 'invisible'.

It's unlike your own description of paradise under the earth, where probably they're awake and having a ball there while temporarily waiting?

We only have verse, the spirits that rebelled during Noah's time are imprisoned or chained under the earth.

And when Christ was in the heart of the earth, meaning He died and buried, He visited and ministered unto them.

We also read satan will be bound in chain and cast into the bottomless pit for thousand years.

You too stop lying about the Holy Bible and not knowing your brethren!

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"""Colossians 1:
18. And He is the Head of the body, the church(Jew and Gentile believers): who is the beginning, the firstborn(firstfruit) from the dead((resurrection); that in all things He might have the preeminence.

There's no patriarchs mentioned as the firstborn or firstfruit from the dead with Christ, it's just your 'heresy'!"""

NO PATRIRCH IS FIRSTBORN.
SO PLEASE DO STOP MISREPRESENTING ME.

You are preaching to the Chior.
I am way more knowledgeable than you ON THE ESSENTIALS.
You sound ridiculous in that you have no knowledge of the descending of Jesus to paradise to preach the gospel to the patrirchs held in paradise , then the FACT that they resurrected AND WERE SEEN WALKING THE STREETS OF JERUSALEM.

THAT MAKES THEM FIRSTRUITS OF THE 1st RESURRECTION.
SMH.

Google "paradise moved to heaven after Jesus emptied it."

Without that knowledge you are hampered in your Bible view and eschatology.

 

[rebuilder 454]

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