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Discussion in 'Eschatology & Prophecy Forum' started by Holy999, Mar 1, 2020.

  1. Taken

    Taken Well-Known Member

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    So since you are Preaching:
    Five Seals Have Been Opened...

    Identify: (Rev 6) first seal
    ** "HIM, the The rider on the white horse.
    [2] And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

    Identify: (Rev 6) second seal
    ** HIM, the rider on the red horse
    [4] And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.

    Identify: (Rev 6) third seal
    ** HE, the rider on the black horse
    [5] ...a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.

    Identify: (Rev 6) fourth seal
    ** HIM, the rider on the pale horse
    [8] And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him.

    Identify: (Rev 6) fifth seal
    ** THEM souls under the altar
    ** Their, FELLOWSERVANTS & BRETHRRN
    [9] And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
    [11] ...and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

    Waiting for your reply to the Identies ...
    That should be easy for you..to Name the identities of the Five you claim have been revealed.


    Glory to God,
    Taken
     
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    Taken Well-Known Member

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    Keraz Background POINT ^

    Keraz CLAIM to me personally. ^

    Of course, I disagree with you Keraz.

    And the reason is quite Simple.
    If one chooses to STAND WITH the Lord God;
    Observe the PEOPLE WHOM the Lord God reveals IS STANDING WITH the Lord God.

    Jesus IS in Heaven.
    John is Called UP, to Look Down upon the Earth and SEE "what" is Occuring UPON the Earth...Beginning with the opening of the First Seal.

    Rev: 4
    [1] After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.

    Through the:
    7 SEALS, 7 TRUMPETS, 7 BOWLES
    John is IN Heaven WITH Jesus Looking Down Upon the Earth.

    In the END days, Jesus descends FROM Heaven to the Clouds...

    Rev 1:
    [7] Behold, he cometh with clouds;

    In the End days, a man IN Christ Jesus, will be WITH Christ Jesus, and TO BE WITH Christ Jesus, one IS Called (by Christ Jesus) UP TO Christ Jesus....

    UP TO Where? Heaven? No

    1 Thes 4:
    [16] For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven...
    [17] ... in the clouds,

    The Clouds...neither, IN Heaven or ON Earth

    1 Thes 4:
    [16] ...the dead [ B]in Christ[/B] shall rise first:

    the (Crucified, DEAD), IN CHRIST...
    The Disciples IN CHRIST, The Apostles IN CHRIST, ALL men, Converted IN CHRIST, having physically died,
    Are called UP TO the Clouds and WITH CHRIST.

    [17] Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air:

    the (Crucified, DEAD), IN CHRIST...all men physically alive, IN CHRIST,
    Are called Up TO the Clouds WITH CHRIST.

    ALL IN CHRIST, Called UP TO the Clouds...
    [17] so shall we ever be with the Lord.

    Then...AS with John...Having "HAD" a view of The Earth From Above the Earth...SO Shall those IN Christ have a View of the Earth from Above the Earth....to Observe what happens ON Earth as the Seven SEALS are Opened, and the Seven TRUMPETS are sounded and the Seven BOWLS are poured out UPON the Earth.

    That which Any man does To BECOME IN CHRIST, I already subjected myself to Do,
    And Trust The Lord is Faithful to Do;
    thus I Know my Standing IS IN CHRIST.

    My Trust IS TO BE WITH CHRIST the Lord Jesus IN the CLOUDS, (along WITH, my brothers and sisters IN CHRIST...meeting them face to face), as Wrath is Befalling UPON the Earth.

    YOU on the other hand, teach you WILL be one of the Mortals ON Earth...
    During the Destruction..
    While Christ is IN the Clouds WITH "HIS Church".

    Okay. You can teach you WILL be ON Earth, wailing and crying as Destruction, Famine, Dead bodies to Numerous to bury, swarms of biting insects attack you, and others wraths promised to the inhabitants of the Earth come to pass.

    But, seriously, how do you think yourself qualified or authorized To speak for me?


    Glory to God,
    Taken
     
  3. Keraz

    Keraz Well-Known Member

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    The Four Horsemen of the Revelation 6:1-8 and Zechariah 1:8-11 and 6:1-8, are just symbols of the four types of disasters that the Lord has allowed to affect the world. We have had plenty of the wars, famines, plagues and economic disasters, in fact if any of them had been much worse, mankind would not have survived.
    The Fifth one, Revelation 6:9-11, is clearly describing all the Christian martyrs since Stephen and up to the Return of Jesus at the end of this age. Their final number will be fulfilled during the Great Tribulation, in the last 3 1/2 years of this age.
    This proves that the next prophesied event will be the Sixth seal world changer.
    We will ALL be on earth, we will be here for all that must happen. The Bible never says otherwise.
    What you fail to see, is how the Lord promises to look after and protect His own, thru it all. Isaiah 41:10, 1 Corinthians 10:13, +

    I am not qualified to speak for anyone, my task is to promote the Prophetic Word, take it as Written, or twist and manipulate it to your discredit.
     
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    You say said what you had to say then ended of course with a jab toward discrediting what I say, as if that is suppose to verify what you claim.

    The Great Tribulation is Tribulation so horrific, it has never before happened nor will again after it happens.

    You claim the world is waiting for the sixth seal to be opened...which by default would mean Five SEALS have been opened.

    I disagree.

    I asked you to IDENTIFY the rider, not describe the horse or action caused by him.

    There have been wars, disasters and soforth through history... but none as horrific as WILL be in the Great Tribulation.
    The Great Tribulation has the Element of the Lambs Wrath and of Gods Wrath.
    There are currently over 7 Billion individuals alive on the Earth...during the G-Trib in a quick disaster one third of the population and another one fourth of the population...in addition to earthquakes, weather storms, swarming biting diseased insects, wars by men, shortages of food, famines world Wide....will kill billions of people...that has not happened...

    And why you could Not identify the horsemen you claim have already been revealed and AND supposedly accomplished the effects of The first Five SEALS.

    The beginning of the G-Trib is introductions of the horsemen...once introduced, you will know their identity.

    The beginning of the G- Trib begins somewhat mild and increasingly gets worse.

    It is the Lambs Wrath at the beginning.
    It is not about Martyred Christians.
    A Converted Christian is with their Lord...not on Earth being subjected to the Lord/Lambs Wrath...come on...Christ Jesus already prepared them in Conversion...their good service was to spread the word of God...open your eyes...Gentile's preach to Gentile's...they are not traveling the world Preaching to Jews who elected to remain under the Jewish Law.

    The "homeland" of Jews sits in the Middle East, surrounded by Gentiles that hate them.

    The beginning of the G-Trib is About the Jews, and backlash against them...By Gentiles that hate them AND the wrath of the Lamb of God, because, while they believe IN God, they reject Jesus is Their Christ Messiah. For 3 1/2 years Two of Gods Servants shall Preach Christ Jesus IN Jerusalem..."for the Jews" to hear that they might believe...those that believe will be subject to more hate from Gentiles. A new World Government will be revealed..into power...The Two Servants will be killed. The Jews as are any of the Tribes are directed to flee the city to the mountains to be preached the gospel by the 144,000 tribes of Israel.

    It is the Jews in Jerusalem near the beginning of the G-Trib who are subject to The Lambs Wrath, for not having Believed.

    Men IN Christ are not subject to Wrath.

    The Jews in Jerusalem, that Become believers in Christ, from the preaching of the two witnesses...shall become killed for their beliefs...
    THEY are the souls under the alter,
    who must wait for the rest of the Tribes in the mountains to be preached, killed, and their soul risen UP TO Heaven, together.

    The Tribes are not Wholly yet believing Christ...God does not forget them.

    Glory to God,
    Taken
     
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    Sadly satan has so polluted the gospel (in the minds of men) to the extent that people are obeying false doctrines and thinking they are saved. One way to tell if you are one of these people is you will not care about TRUTH (Acts 28:24). It is only TRUTH that has the POWER to sanctify and cleanse the soul of sin (Jn 17:17). Another way to tell if you are one of these people is if your church has a creed book separate and apart from the bible (Deut.4:2) (1Cor.4:6). Why do we need another creed book (other than the bible) when God gave us all things pertaining to life and godliness (2Peter 1:3)?
     
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    well, i guess you added "literal" all by yourself tho, K
    but fwiw i would love to study under you; once you have found the manna :)
    have a nice day
     
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    What does manna mean?
     
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    what is it?

    which--i suggest--is not what is advertised, but rather maybe a perspective
     
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    What the Prophetic Word graphically describes about the Day of the Lord's fiery wrath, CAN happen literally. So why shouldn't it?
    I think he means; the spiritual food from God.
    Which, as I have had inspiration to write over 800 articles, mostly on Bible Prophecy, I do claim to have received.
     
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    You're a smart person!!!
     
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    yeh, the possibilities are endless i guess Keraz; but note that you speak in Definitives,
    "it's like this and like that"
    nope!
    we're tired of this manna, give us some meat to eat!
    which i have an example of here onsite somewhere...
    dang, cant find the one i was looking for, but anyway,
    Followers
    Who is Nehushtan? Why isn't Christ Nehushtan? Why hasn't your pastor ever so much as mentioned...
    maybe those will serve
    surely all written from the Hegelian perspective, yes
    you have eaten from the tree of knowledge iow
    as have we all, i guess
     
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    oh, i just stole that from someone prolly lol
    but i mean doesnt that describe a little kid to a t? :)
     
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    People today would not know what meat was, even if a 1800 lb. steer hit them broadside. Being obedient to God’s Word gives more growth, than just knowing God’s Word.
     
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    bbyrd009 Groper

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    ah, so

    what is meat then?
     
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    The Fire from the Lord is the flaming sword of the gate of Cherubim (Genesis 3:24), so did Jesus was also tempted by them in the wilderness (Luke 4:1-13) and devil was never back down to snares him into death (crucified) by looking in other opportunite moment (Luke 4:13). So, many people who lack knowledge of spiritual warfare will also experience this too, the temptation from the devil is like a quicksand, the more you want to be live in holiness, the more trials will hit you (Matthew 16:24-25).
    Sometimes you will be notified of "a cat" parables that encounters in your life. The cat was also a symbol of the presence of a witchcraft who hunt us as a sacrificial burnt offered to their gods (fallen angel). I found out that this cat spiritual meaning was :
    - SPIRITUAL MEANING OF CATS IN THE DREAM - Dream About Cats - Evangelist Joshua
    - Cat Symbolism: What Cats Represent In The Spiritual World
     
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    What people read and understand, but refuse to obey. If you can take it in, and it does not change who you are, that is milk. Can we reject God’s Word? That no one agrees totally is not just an indication of opinion. It shows how we accept God's Word in grace, and not in pride. What changes us, from a carnal sinful mess, to a strong (not pride nor egotistical), but a humble strength as an example of Christ, is the meat of God's Word.

    I have noticed that online forums tend to cement people into their beliefs. It is very rare that one can figure out a person's true intention in this type of communication. Sometimes not knowing the whole truth is a blessing, but one would prefer honesty over apologetics.
     
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    I treat what the Prophets said as definitive.
    Those who think they can spiritualize, allegorize or biff them into the past, are the ones who have endless interpretations.
     
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    marksman My eldest granddaughter showing the result of her

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    Amazing what you can learn when you don't base your faith on proof texts.
     
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    marksman My eldest granddaughter showing the result of her

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    Can you say me it? What sort of English is that?
     
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    ah, so
    then was it sprinkling, or raining, Keraz?
     
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