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Discussion in 'Eschatology & Prophecy Forum' started by Holy999, Mar 1, 2020.

  1. Taken

    Taken Well-Known Member

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    Israel is Gods People.
    Israelites are not now Christians.
    Christians are not now Israelites.
    Converted IN Christ Jesus are Christ's People.
    IN Jerusalem, it WILL be Two Jewish Witness Preaching Christ Jesus, To Jews. (3.5 yrs). The Witnesses Will then be Saved and Killed, and Some Jews, (who Accept the Gospel of Christ Jesus) will be soul Saved and Bodily Killed...other Jews from Every Tribe of Israel Will be told to leave the City and go to Mt Zion. There 144,000 Witnesses, 12,000 of Each of the Twelve Tribes will be Preaching the Gospel of Christ Jesus. Many of the Tribes Will Accept Christ Jesus, soul Saved and Bodily Killed.
    That is About God "soul" Saving His People ISRAEL, through the Gospel of Christ Jesus.

    Converted men IN Christ, Christ's People, His Bride are Already "Prepared" for The Marriage supper...Saved, and their Saved soul, Quickened spirit, and Glorified Body is RISEN UP above the Face of the Earth...Before the Tribulation Begins.

    Glory to God,
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    The Lord has not yet descended From Heaven TO the Clouds and called His Bride Up to Him.
    The Lamb has not yet Opened any SEALS.
    Two Witnesses have not yet Appeared IN Jerusalem.

    Glory to God,
    Taken
     
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    Body's OF men came forth OUT of the Earth, live ON the Earth, Physically Die, the LIFE of the Body (which is its Blood Dies) and the Flesh Body is buried IN the Earth, rots and Returns to the Earth... (or lay undiscovered and rot and Return to Dust of the Earth).

    The Soul is Gods, comes From God.
    The Souls Life is Gods Breath. Gods Life. Gods Life Does NOT Die. Gods Life Remains IN Where He Sends IT...Until God Does or Does NOT Remove His Life OUT of that Which He Put it.
    A Body can Not come to Life Without a Soul...and a Body can not be Dead and Come Back to Life Without its Soul Returning TO the Body.
    There are examples in the OT and NT of Living Souls Leaving a Body...and the Body was Dead...then God Returning the Living Soul To the Body, and the Body resumes Living.

    Natural Body's OF Earthlings (terrestrials/ humans), do not Leave the Earth and Habitat elsewhere. A Natural Earthling out of the Earth Requires what comes forth out from the Earth to Sustain a Natural Life (Oxygen, Water, Minerals).

    So, what "removal" from Earth are you talking About?

    Glory to God,
    Taken
     
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    ah, so
     
  5. amadeus

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    Cementing perhaps is the word you choose because they cannot or will not hear your belief or opinion on something?

    Isn't this cementing what has taken place or is taking place in church groups [churches, denominations, etc.] outside of the Internet? The guy or guys in charge in those church meetings, when they are Not led by the Holy Spirit, set up the forms and eventually the foundation will be poured and it will solidify. If it is not Jesus...?

    Many forums have gone, or are going, in the same direction. A lot of people want that. On the outside we see the result and in places we are seeing the same result on the inside [within Internet forums.] Some have expressed a desire for that to happen to this forum. So far we are blessed in that the human powers that be have not gone along with it. Let us pray that God will help them to continue along that part of the road for all of our sakes.
     
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    It is not about me. It is the claims people make.
     
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    Some or even many may be wrong in some of their claims, but we must walk on with Him regardless. We can and should be doing that without knowing or having to know how well everyone else is doing. God knows about them! Who else needs to...? It is certainly not my business to know...

    "He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God." John 3:18

    Give God the glory!
     
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    1/ Nowhere does the Bible say He will call His bride to heaven.
    2/ The first Five Seals are open since Jesus Ascended.
    3/ The two Witnesses will preach during the final 3 1/2 years before Jesus Returns.

    I can provide plenty of scriptural proof for all of these truths.
     
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    No not until you make sense in your post. Now as to your title

    I am already saved (Rom. 8:24, Eph. 2:5–8), but I’m also being saved (1 Cor. 1:18, 2 Cor. 2:15, Phil. 2:12), and I have the hope that I will be saved (Rom. 5:9–10, 1 Cor. 3:12–15). Like St. Paul I am working out my Salvation in fear and trembling
     
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    Every human conceived since day 6 until the 7th seal is opened, have their names written in the Lamb's book of life.
     
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    Those written in that book,were written before the foundation of the world

    Ephesians 1:4 "According as He hath chosen us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love:"

    What does it mean to be "chosen"?

    It means that there are certain people that God chosen in the first earth age, to do a task for Him in this flesh earth age. This is not reincarnation, for it is appointed for each of us to go through this earth age, the flesh earth age, once and only once. We read; "...It is appointed unto men once to die [in the flesh], but after this the judgment." Hebrews 9:27 This appointing and choosing took place before the foundation of this earth age; the second earth age [cosmos] that we now live in.

    "Without blame" refers to the fact that God intercedes in certain peoples lives. Certain people have free will, while certain others are of God's election, however, God doesn't play favorites. Christ died for the sins of all who will repent; the chosen, and the free-will. All must repent for sins they commit, and love the Lord Jesus Christ, to have the hope of His glory.

    "Before the foundation of the world", [cosmos in the Greek, meaning world or earth age.] The "foundation" in the Greek text, is the verb for, "the overthrow". This refers to something that happened in that first earth age, before the overthrow of Satan and his angels that followed him. When Satan fell [war against God], one third of all angelic beings [God's children] followed Satan. Then during that war, there were some who fought against Satan, and those who did, God calls "His Chosen". They took a stand, and were overcomers in that first earth age.

    One MUST understand the world that then was ..Peter gives it to you.
     
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    OK.
     
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    ppl spouting facts are saying something else at the same time without realizing it huh taken
     
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    ""Before the foundation of the world", [cosmos in the Greek, meaning world or earth age.] The "foundation" in the Greek text, is the verb for, "the overthrow". This refers to something that happened in that first earth age, before the overthrow of Satan and his angels that followed him..." ephesians1
    (which the very way the link posts smacks of hutzpah and assumption to me, sorta like "The Kenneth Copeland Bible" lol, yikes, do you believe some ppl? Some ppl's kids? Man is he gonna fall hard or what)

    so, i didnt know "The "foundation" in the Greek text, is the verb for, "the overthrow," so i did a copy/search, which anyone interested might also do, but a couple of links from the top maybe provide a clearer image,
    http://thedifferentiator.net/tdf2.html which im gonna finish reading, the gist being that "the foundation" in Greek is not always the verb for "the overthrow," and i guess apparently not even usually the verb for that?
    "The theory that the Greek word katabolE means "disruption" is utterly baseless, whatever way we look at the matter..."
    The 21st EPISTLE TO THE NEVADANS - To Show God's Love Aright: The Nature Of Christian Power which goes in a diff direction, "power," but yikes i like this guy already, there goes my morning lol,
    http://www.4windsfellowships.net/articles/foreknowledge.pdf shaping up to be a great epistle on "foreknowledge," which i quote bc "Calvinistic bias (which is really Greek, Augustinian fatalism) is imposed upon this word in the following passage. This is why it has become one of the Calvinists' main proof-texts..."

    so i'll bow out of this now, but see that a point might be that any time someone states a "fact" at you in this manner, they by definition cannot be telling you truth, imo,
    he who says he knows anything, doesn't yet know as he ought

    so, im not even sure how link one might alter...n2's post, and i guess this might feel like an attack? But i have no idea ok, n2's facts may have merit, they may even have more merit than the Hegelian speaker in link one, who seems rather quick to Criticize Hastily to me lol, but then who am i to be chiding ppl for that narf
     
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    which goes for you too, @CharismaticLady , ok? i see you have me on ignore now, but understand that i do not know, ok, and i am challenging your perspectives, not your character, fwiw. i assume that anyone who chooses to spend time here rather than a porn site or any one of our other plethora of choices is someone worthy, ok.

    But understand that when you cannot or will not reply, you send a message. i get a big, loud Affirmation of my perspective when i dont get any reply at all; the silence, imo, speaks volumes. If you are that married to your perspectives then you must believe that you are Yah, and cannot be questioned? My perspectives are mostly crap, as im sure you might even agree lol

    agreement by the like-minded is ok, dont get me wrong, but those pale in comparison imo
    so i suggest that when you state a postulate and dont get a reply, maybe you are on the right track :)
     
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    sure sounds like some are being respected by God there, wadr
    work to make your calling and election sure
     
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    "
    How did the Overthrow or Disruption hypothesis originate (The Greek term (katabolE kosmou) was assumed to refer to a violent physical disruption of the earth, because the former Greek word signifies a down-casting (although the Greeks used the word cast (ballO) even of dust cast in the air). Search must therefore be made for some place in Scripture where this idea might suit. We alight upon Gen. 1:2, even though it says nothing at all about either ruination or violence. This, surely, can only be the work of Satan, so he is brought into the picture. Besides, in the Greek, there is another word which properly means "foundation" (themelios), so that katabolE cannot possibly signify any kind of foundation. Another meaning must be found for it. It will matter nothing at all if we totally disrupt the meaning of Hebrews 6:1. So it appears as "not disrupting again a foundation of repentance. . . ." in the Concordant Version, where we find the verbal form of the term. Everyone else, so far as I know, except other supporters of the Disruption theory, would read somewhat as Dr. Robert Young has it, "not again a foundation laying. . . . ." which is the obvious meaning of the verse.

    Every odd verse in the Scriptures which can be pressed into service is then utilized to build up a captivating little story of Satan's malevolence in ruining the original earth. Nevertheless, I do not deny that Satan could have done so; but the facts are not revealed in the Bible.

    Had it been the theologians who perpetrated this wonderful theory, those who have concocted the myth would have fulminated against them.

    And now, in order to cover up or explain the initial blunder of confusing the two Greek words for earth (gE) and world (kosmos), some method must be thought up to prevent the total disruption of the grand theory. Can we prove that after all, these two Greek words mean the same thing? Doubtless this must mean considerable head-scratching, while we run through the Bible. Ah, here is Peter, he will help us. His second epistle, chs. 2:5 and 3:6 solve this very troublesome problem. He "explains the relation of the earth to the cosmic arrangements upon its surface by calling the latter a 'world.'" He shews that "The earth was not disrupted, only the system upon it." How could Peter know what Gen. 1:2 said? What could he care about concordance? "And the earth (emphatic) becomes waste and vacant." Peter says it was not the earth that suffered, but the world upon it. Thus this fine theory makes Scripture contradict itself..." from the first link
    you'd have to put that en Inglish i guess, sorry :)
    but i think i might be inclined to agree, depending upon the def of "day 6" i guess
     
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    "en Inglish" : "a heresy" was posted.
     
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    Let's do Paul,why did Christ interfere in his life,I mean Paul who was before the road,persecuting Christians?
    Again,all are not the elect,certain people were chosen before this age,so the question should be why?
     
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    my guess would be that that passage was inserted solely for those who want to either profess that or debate that, bc how can we as humans determine who might be whom? At the same time i guess we have all met ppl who just function on a higher plane, seem very selfless or whatever, no matter how they identify? And wadr i dont recall anyof them going around saying "i am elect."

    so i dont know ok, but i suspect that we should work to make your calling and election sure and maybe be a little but suspicious of ppl self-professing and commending themselves to each other here.

    but to respond to your Qs, Paul--
    "Meaning
    Small
    A Small Whisper That Propagates Into A Roaring Multitude
    Etymology
    From the adjective paulus, little or small.
    From (1) the verb פעה (pa'a), to propagate a call for support, and (2) the letter ל (lamed), onto"
    had Christ interfere with his life for prolly the same reason you did i guess, so that a change of what we call "heart" might manifest?

    The elements might seem different, as i guess you prolly dont recall persecuting any "Christians" per se, but for that i suggest that we have a poor def of "Christians" anyway, right now, so we might first contemplate how completely under the law most Christians are, or iow assume for purposes of reflection at least that we are Saul, as Christians, trying to keep the law and "do good," and persecuting those whom our knowledge tells us are "sinning" maybe?

    i suggest this mostly bc i note that in other places, many, the Bible seems to have been written in such a way that we are led into identifying with one party in a passage, when in fact it is the other party that we should be identifying with, Legion comes to mind here but there are many other examples imo.

    So anyway i dont know, but i think i am Saul--as could be pretty easily demonstrated here i guess--and while i dont do that hardly at all irl anymore, that what we call codependence i guess, i am or was still doing that here, and i gotta say the results are basically as disappointing as they were irl.

    I justified that a few different ways, the other is "wrong" and i can "prove" it, or more often lately for other readers to at least be exposed to the possibility of a diff perspective, but i get plenty of indications that maybe im still not there, i offend ppl, basically, or at least the one i am (supposedly) having a "conversation" with...which might be on me, or might be on them, too, i guess, i mean Paul offended ppl after his encounter too, but he did not set out to offend as before, it seems like it was more his (right) actions that offended ppl then, rather than his intent to offend or "kill" as it is put in Scripture?

    I kill ppl i guess, here, and whether they might imo "have it coming" or whatever i dont know, but this obv heardens someones heart, even if others are maybe edified by it sometimes it obv comes at someone's expense? Which im not sure what to do about that, i just post it as a reflection of Saul becoming Paul, "small," since i naturally think in my heart of hearts that i am Big, im gonna do Big Things for Jesus, i prolly even see myself as an Official or whatever Saul was in the kingdom, kinda thing?
     
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